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kk2kk
2021-12-09
$固生堂(02273)$
卧槽,乙组就10个人。。。乙组上杠杆的大哥们应该基本都是40%以上的纯利啊[捂脸]
kk2kk
2021-11-26
$达达集团(DADA)$
南非变异病毒你一个疫情受益股跟跌个啥[疑问]
kk2kk
2021-09-28
$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$
作为20年刚毕业回国的留美留学生看到“中国互联网渗透率低于美国”的奇闻,实在想不通不知道这样的高论是怎么得出的
kk2kk
2021-09-13
$达达集团(DADA)$
这次我真的看不懂怎么财报后会跌成这样,个人维持$36目标价不变,再跌再加仓,可能如果香港二次上市或者等Instacart上市之后会被美股的主流投资人更认可一点吧。。。
kk2kk
2021-08-30
$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$
$网易(NTES)$
今日奇闻,游戏占比不到30%的B站跌幅和游戏占比3/4的网易跌幅差不多
kk2kk
2021-08-25
$快手-W(01024)$
评快手DAU:小明去年期末考了70分,今年期中考了100分,今年期末考了78分,同比多考11%,爸爸妈妈可高兴了,给小明做了他最喜欢的大耳刮子
kk2kk
2021-08-23
这篇写的很好,相对而言比较客观
@鑫博资本:以B站为例谈谈股票估值从天使到魔鬼之间发生了什么
kk2kk
2021-07-12
$滴滴(DIDI)$
关于反垄断搞不死滴滴的论断,这个观点我是不赞成的,监管一个拖字诀其实就能拖死一切公司。。。当年安然丑闻之后,美国的监管机构立刻动手整治了当年的五大会计事务所之一安达信,最后判决啥都没事,但是因为拖的时间过长并且安然这件事上不断产生恐慌消息,安达信员工基本上被其他四大挖了个干净,然后就倒掉了。。。雇员有合同做强约束尚且如此,更何况看见利益立马跑路的乘客和司机。。。所以还是建议谨慎观望,等监管风险过去再说
kk2kk
2021-03-29
。。。Bill Hwang爆仓把中概股砸的人都没了[捂脸] 不过估计他爆仓爆的差不多了,150亿美金应该这两天强平不剩几个钱了,看今晚能不能企稳吧[无语]
kk2kk
2021-03-25
$达达集团(DADA)$
中概股整体杀估值已经过于不理性,继续捡筹码
kk2kk
2021-03-23
$德州公路酒吧(TXRH)$
唉,学生时代偶尔奢侈一下去吃的平价牛排连锁,老板因为无法忍受新冠后遗症的折磨自杀了[叹气]
kk2kk
2021-03-22
$达达集团(DADA)$
之前听完conference call重仓了一波[财迷] 今晚一晚收复过去一个月全部失地了[贱笑]
kk2kk
2021-03-11
$达达集团(DADA)$
听了一下conference call,我觉得还是可以长期的,美团P/S TTM现在大概是16倍,顺丰P/S TTM大约是3倍多一点,现在的P/S TTM是9倍,按照conference call给的指引今年如果营收和GMV同步再增长50%那大概这算得的Forward P/S TTM是6倍。从场景上说,美团、达达、顺丰分别代表高频、中高频和中低频的配送场景,越高频的消费场景一般资本市场会更愿意付出溢价(混的脸熟很重要)。 考虑到外卖和快递是相对比较存量的场景而商超即时配送仍然渗透率比较低,达达的合理P/S估值应该会偏向于3-16倍中间偏高,也就是9.5倍以上按10倍算,如果按照Forward来看低估了大约40%,按照TTM来看大概也低估了10%,目前合理估值区间应该会处于33-50美元之间,以中值42美元计如果大盘不杀估值目前会有25%-40%左右的空间,当然如果大盘疯狂杀估值美团都跌到撑不住10倍P/S的话,达达估计也好不了。。。
kk2kk
2021-02-23
$波动率短期期货指数ETF(VIXY)$
20%仓位,基本最多跌20%,如果大盘爆炸至少200%的涨幅,1:10的赔率对现在的市场环境做对冲挺好的
kk2kk
2021-02-23
$Affirm Holdings, Inc.(AFRM)$
创始人是大学校友,去年学校的commencement speaker,感觉那老哥挺靠谱的买点支持下
kk2kk
2021-02-23
$达达集团(DADA)$
等京东物流把估值拉起来
kk2kk
2021-02-04
$快手科技(01024)$
300出了,涨的有点太夸张了。。。
kk2kk
2021-01-22
$RLX科技(RLX)$
我吐了。。。以后不打了,机会成本大到爆炸
kk2kk
2020-12-17
$逸仙电商(YSG)$
虽然赛道和商业模式看好,但是提示一下Pre-IPO是9月份的,估值那个时候才40亿美元(数据来自开源证券研报),现在的市值虽然已经比高点跌了不少但是仍然有1.5倍的溢价,即使在一级市场3个月估值翻2.5倍也非常罕见,可能至少要先磨底到80亿美元再看业绩能不能稳住
kk2kk
2020-12-01
$陌陌(MOMO)$
可以考虑择机入场持有,账上趴着160亿人民币现金,市值180个亿,盈利破局看游戏,增长破局看探探,
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