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SunnyHoney
2021-11-17
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
法拉第的最终结局或许是被收购
SunnyHoney
2021-11-09
$Meta Platforms(FB)$
我也支持元宇宙吧,现实世界太痛苦了,虚拟世界里没有病痛,没有容貌焦虑,没有生活中的种种痛苦,元宇宙快点来吧,我已经准备好泡在营养液中每天活在虚拟世界中了,现实世界太痛苦了
SunnyHoney
2021-11-05
$Meta Platforms(FB)$
一个增强现实高估成这样,离真正落地还有很长一段路要走。炒的好像明天都能实现一样
SunnyHoney
2021-11-05
$英伟达(NVDA)$
$Meta Platforms(FB)$
所有人都去推动芯片,所谓的元宇宙等等,人类每天都需要的消费医疗等等最基本的反而被资本抛弃
SunnyHoney
2021-09-29
图像识别能否成功就是概率问题。即使大量训练也存在小概率无法识别的情况。
蔚来之后,小鹏汽车辅助驾驶也出事了
SunnyHoney
2021-08-28
$Joby Aviation, Inc.(JOBY)$
这只是个玩具,既不经济,也不实用
SunnyHoney
2021-08-18
看空中概股显然是错误的,增长还在继续。有人说进入了存量时代,远没有到,至少我奶奶从来不上网,不会用拼多多,不会百度。更年轻一代教育水平的提升带动经济增长和更年轻一代(90后,00后,10后,20后)的互联网化还会继续
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SunnyHoney
2021-08-17
$美团-W(03690)$
我真的是服了美团某些骑手。送餐也不打电话联系下,送错了还怪我是不是地址填错了,还问我我填的地址怎么走。这个地址用了三四年了,点了几十次重来没送错过。这次送错了骑手就不负责了,我也是服了。
SunnyHoney
2021-08-17
$百度集团-SW(09888)$
上市即新高,企业和投资机构集体割韭菜
SunnyHoney
2021-08-17
曾经的套路,快速融资快速扩张,补贴获流量,前期融资成本低,包括一级市场。2、3年进入二级市场套现,赚取巨额收益
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SunnyHoney
2021-08-14
$eBay(EBAY)$
美股市场真讽刺,用户数在减少,说明消费者并不看好这个平台。商家的确在增多,但是消费者在减少股价反而在飞涨
SunnyHoney
2021-08-06
有点不切实际。四年时间新能源提升到50%意味着许多原来的生产线原来的研发人员都得更换,另外要新建工厂,特斯拉美国工厂貌似建了三年。另外相关供应链也需要大量投入。中国有更加完备产业链,新能源占比增速也比美国高的多,2025年定的目标也不过是20%。拜登发言更像是刺激福特通用这些传统企业加速转型,另外刺激国外产业链相关企业在美国落地。因为新能源汽车和相关产业链在欧洲和中国增长更快。福特和通用下半年增长都低于预期。我认为现实没这么容易
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SunnyHoney
2021-08-06
$李宁(02331)$
$李宁(02331)$
李宁是如何被炒到100倍市盈率的。18年到20年净利增长了2倍多,股价涨了10倍
SunnyHoney
2021-08-06
媒体发积极评论影响股市的时候不说,发消极评论的时候就开始叫了。评论也并不是假新闻,跌了就怪媒体,涨的时候怎么不说
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SunnyHoney
2021-08-06
$福特汽车(F)$
虽然我支持电动化,但是短期内我不会购买电动车的
SunnyHoney
2021-08-05
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
无脑做多纳指
SunnyHoney
2021-08-04
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来如何应对modelY降价售价低于ES6的问题
SunnyHoney
2021-08-04
$腾讯控股(00700)$
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
$百度(BIDU)$
前不久有政策说要扶持各行各业的小巨人。由于部分大企业的垄断地位,绝大多数毕业生都更希望进入大厂。在某种程度上挤压了中小企业的发展。欧洲有许多高精尖的中小微企业,营收不高,但是生产其他厂商必不可少的组件。
SunnyHoney
2021-08-03
$拼多多(PDD)$
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
高增长已经结束了
SunnyHoney
2021-08-03
$哔哩哔哩-SW(09626)$
$腾讯控股(00700)$
饭圈,网络游戏?
去老虎APP查看更多动态
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>,少不了小鹏,其全栈式自研是一大标签;但因“自动驾驶”出车祸,也有着小鹏的身影。</p>\n<p>9月23日,一位小鹏汽车车主发帖,称自己的朋友驾驶P7在日照回北京的路上,路过山东东营的高速时出了车祸。</p>\n<p>事故视频显示,小鹏P7在开启NGP自动导航辅助驾驶系统情况下,以120码的时速撞到了前方约60时速的载物板车,撞击前没有减速,最后十米车主介入刹车时已经来不及了。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://img.36krcdn.com/20210928/v2_e766cc4497b14d57b965b2f0015d5bfd_img_000\"/></p>\n<p>从发生事故的小鹏P7行车记录仪上,也可以清晰的看到,当时车辆的NGP驾驶辅助系统刚完成超车动作,一辆卸掉货柜的载货板车出现在小鹏P7前方,但NGP驾驶辅助并未识别,也没有任何明显减速,直接撞击了前车的尾部。 </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://img.36krcdn.com/20210928/v2_960fc6bb2646491f9d7b61c030610877_img_000\"/></p>\n<p>帖子称,幸好板车底盘很低,P7前部车头吸能了。从事故照片来看,小鹏P7的车头已经完全变形,还碎了一地的零部件。驾驶员送医救治后确诊为脑震荡,现已在日照医院住院治疗。 </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://img.36krcdn.com/20210928/v2_ed297defec234a22aba6fb1caa106ff6_img_000\"/></p>\n<p>小鹏汽车在事故中的表现,让发帖车主怀疑,P7的智能导航辅助驾驶功能有致命缺陷,指出事故发生后,客服始终没有主动电话慰问,对小鹏汽车的运营维护感到失望,并提出退车的诉求。</p>\n<p>不少网友提出,驾驶员为何不提早接管车辆?发帖车主给的回复“他早发现了,他以为车会识别,当然只是他以为。人和车是两个问题,我发出来是想说车的问题。”</p>\n<p>作为小鹏汽车主打车型之一,P7从去年7月份上市至今已经交付超过5万台,打破了新势力单车交付的记录。</p>\n<p>对于此次事故,小鹏汽车官方对外回应称,在事故发生后,已有专人回应并处理客户诉求。</p>\n<p>根据后台检测的行车数据,进行了初步的分析,在发生碰撞前,系统的前车识别及车辆控制,安全带震动提示,车辆预警,AEB(汽车主动安全技术)等功能均处于正常工作状态。进一步分析结果,将待车主恢复后,共同复盘后并征得其同意后,及时向媒体进行相关说明。</p>\n<p>“26日早上陆续有车主在微信群说NGP功能打不开了,不确定跟这个事件是否有关。”前述发帖车主称,9月27日小鹏官方将看望车主,并商讨解决方案。</p>\n<h2 label=\"一级标题\"><strong>为何未能识别出前方车辆?</strong></h2>\n<p>一直强调智能性的小鹏汽车,曾卖力宣传其“自动驾驶”功能。</p>\n<p>P7中的NGP全称为“智能导航辅助驾驶”,是小鹏XPILOT3.0系统结合导航路径实现的辅助驾驶功能,今年1月正式推出,小鹏汽车的招股资料显示,截至今年3月底,超过20%的P7车主购买并激活了该功能。</p>\n<p>根据官方介绍,NGP能够在合适路况下,按照导航路径智能辅助行驶,引导车辆抵达目的地。具体来说,NGP开启状态下,车辆不仅能实现ACC自适应巡航、LCC车道居中辅助、ALC自动变道辅助等功能,还拥有了自动选择最优车道、自动超越慢车、自动限速调节、自动进出匝道切换高速、交通锥桶和故障车辆避让、夜间超车提醒等功能。</p>\n<p>据了解,早在2018年的小鹏汽车新车广告投放中,对“自动驾驶”系统的描述为“L2.5级自动驾驶”。</p>\n<p>2020年,小鹏汽车相关功能的宣传口吻又改成“L2.5级自动驾驶辅助系统”。</p>\n<p>今年8月,“美一好”餐饮连锁品牌创始人林文钦驾驶蔚来ES8时,同样在开启自动驾驶(NOP智能领航系统)功能的情况下遭遇车祸遇难,家属痛斥蔚来汽车引发公众对“自动驾驶辅助系统”的质疑。</p>\n<p>此后,小鹏汽车在官网上把自动驾驶辅助系统中的“自动”改成了“智能”,宣传文案变为“XPILOT3.5智能辅助驾驶系统”。小鹏相关人士表示,改名的原因就是舆论对于自动驾驶的质疑,希望能够客观一些。</p>\n<p>回到这次事故,NGP为何未能识别出前方的慢速板车?</p>\n<p>资料显示,小鹏P7全车搭载了31个传感器,使用的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">英伟达</a>此前最先进的Xavier自动驾驶芯片。在NGP工作时,视觉摄像头和毫米波雷达组成的感知组合方案便会各自感知目标,系统会对感知结果进行分析、交叉验证,并按照分析结果辅助驾驶车辆。</p>\n<p>而这两类感知传感器的工作原理各不相同,毫米波雷达依靠回波探测物体,并且对移动的物体非常敏感(对静止和缓行物体不敏感)。此次事故中,前方的大货车就是处于缓行状态,车载视频显示碰撞前一秒有报警声,说明毫米波雷达虽然反应迟钝但最终检测到了板车。</p>\n<p>有观点认为,从技术层面来看,此次事故或是因为视觉摄像头感知失败。</p>\n<p>视觉检测上,小鹏P7搭载了14个摄像头,具有远、中、近和180°视野。业内人士指出,摄像头感知方法是使用大量的样本训练用来进行目标检测,该检测模型的召回率与样本的数量和质量有直接关系。</p>\n<p>而事故中的前车为没有货箱的板车,尾部低矮平板完全遮挡车轮,属于异形车,在实际的训练数据集中数量和占比都很少。因此,业内人士认为,目前的感知算法难以将这类车识别为需要反应的车辆。</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">知乎</a>答主“大包子狸”也持相同观点,他认为,事故中前方平板车的截图影像存在一定不规则情况,导致摄像头未能识别出该图形属于卡车,这种场景下是需要驾驶员来干预的。 </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://img.36krcdn.com/20210928/v2_5fd804a5f46c4c859f5a1174abec0960_img_000\"/></p>\n<p>但类似的罕见车辆类型,在生活中并不罕见,林文钦驾驶蔚来ES8撞上的就是一辆高速公路养护施工车。</p>\n<p>8月底,一辆<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>Model3在美国佛罗里达州奥兰多市附近的州际公路上,撞上了一辆停靠路边的警车,一名警员险些受伤。此后,美国国家公路交通安全管理局(NHTSA)宣布对特斯拉自动驾驶进行正式调查。</p>\n<p>其原因是特斯拉自动驾驶状态下路况识别功能或存在缺陷,存在与路边停放的车辆有发生相撞的风险。</p>\n<p>实际上,对于目前L2辅助驾驶功能上的毫米波雷达+摄像头的视觉算法技术路线,不少业内人士都认为其存在技术缺陷。</p>\n<p>法雷奥中国CTO顾剑民表示,“对摄像头来说,需要用机器学习来训练识别物体,但静态物体类别多,形态也千差万别,没经过样本训练识别不了;对毫米波雷达来说,主要是受目标对电磁波反射敏感度影响,有些橡胶类静态物反射不好,识别会困难。”</p>\n<p>这也意味着,L2只适合在某些特定场景使用。蔚来就在其用户手册中警告,当与前车相对车速大于每小时50公里时,如前车静止或缓行,Pilot(自动驾驶辅助系统)存在无法刹停的风险。</p>\n<h2 label=\"一级标题\"><strong>自动驾驶还有很长的“路”要走</strong></h2>\n<p>自动驾驶属于一项新技术,用户或许对新事物有一定容错底线,但一次次用危险换来的教训,却不容忽视。</p>\n<p>目前国内外政策已经达成共识,自动驾驶0-5级划分中,0-3级驾驶任务接管由驾驶员来完成,驾驶员为驾驶行为最终责任人;4-5级也就是高级自动驾驶和完全自动驾驶条件下,驾驶任务由系统来接管,系统为最终责任人。 </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://img.36krcdn.com/20210928/v2_53e6e642cadf4173afba6f803d68fa55_img_000\"/></p>\n<p>只不过,实际中各厂家对其辅助驾驶命名五花八门,销售中存在意无意的夸大成分,甚至卖车时称“自动驾驶”,出事后是“辅助驾驶”,导致普通消费者模糊了辅助和自动的边界。</p>\n<p>目前业内的共识是,采取毫米波雷达+摄像头的探测方案,只能做到L2的辅助驾驶水平。要解决对静态物体识别难题,需要增加激光雷达的使用,因为激光雷达不依赖环境光线,可直接探测、三维成像,识别静物更加精确可靠。</p>\n<p>但目前车规级激光雷达价格高昂,直到今年,一些厂家才将激光雷达方案提上日程。</p>\n<p>除去自动驾驶本身的技术水平,还要考虑到道路网络的问题。要精准实现自动驾驶,离不开清晰的道路标识、可识别的道路环境。显然,目前国内道路上在很多地方都不具备这样的条件。</p>\n<p>公安部道路交通安全研究中心王艺帆认为,目前自动驾驶汽车技术尚不成熟、标准还不明确、政策也在完善之中,而相比于美国及其他国家,我国交通情况、道路条件、驾驶行为等方面的行车条件更为复杂,因此我国自动驾驶汽车的发展应用必将是个漫长、曲折的探索过程。</p>\n<p>本文来自微信公众号“雷达财经”(ID:leidacj),作者:李亦辉,编辑:深海,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KRKR\">36氪</a>经授权发布。</p></div></body></html>","source":"36kr_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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\n\n帖子称,幸好板车底盘很低,P7前部车头吸能了。从事故照片来看,小鹏P7的车头已经完全变形,还碎了一地的零部件。驾驶员送医救治后确诊为脑震荡,现已在日照医院住院治疗。 \n\n小鹏汽车在事故中的表现,让发帖车主怀疑,P7的智能导航辅助驾驶功能有致命缺陷,指出事故发生后,客服始终没有主动电话慰问,对小鹏汽车的运营维护感到失望,并提出退车的诉求。\n不少网友提出,驾驶员为何不提早接管车辆?发帖车主给的回复“他早发现了,他以为车会识别,当然只是他以为。人和车是两个问题,我发出来是想说车的问题。”\n作为小鹏汽车主打车型之一,P7从去年7月份上市至今已经交付超过5万台,打破了新势力单车交付的记录。\n对于此次事故,小鹏汽车官方对外回应称,在事故发生后,已有专人回应并处理客户诉求。\n根据后台检测的行车数据,进行了初步的分析,在发生碰撞前,系统的前车识别及车辆控制,安全带震动提示,车辆预警,AEB(汽车主动安全技术)等功能均处于正常工作状态。进一步分析结果,将待车主恢复后,共同复盘后并征得其同意后,及时向媒体进行相关说明。\n“26日早上陆续有车主在微信群说NGP功能打不开了,不确定跟这个事件是否有关。”前述发帖车主称,9月27日小鹏官方将看望车主,并商讨解决方案。\n为何未能识别出前方车辆?\n一直强调智能性的小鹏汽车,曾卖力宣传其“自动驾驶”功能。\nP7中的NGP全称为“智能导航辅助驾驶”,是小鹏XPILOT3.0系统结合导航路径实现的辅助驾驶功能,今年1月正式推出,小鹏汽车的招股资料显示,截至今年3月底,超过20%的P7车主购买并激活了该功能。\n根据官方介绍,NGP能够在合适路况下,按照导航路径智能辅助行驶,引导车辆抵达目的地。具体来说,NGP开启状态下,车辆不仅能实现ACC自适应巡航、LCC车道居中辅助、ALC自动变道辅助等功能,还拥有了自动选择最优车道、自动超越慢车、自动限速调节、自动进出匝道切换高速、交通锥桶和故障车辆避让、夜间超车提醒等功能。\n据了解,早在2018年的小鹏汽车新车广告投放中,对“自动驾驶”系统的描述为“L2.5级自动驾驶”。\n2020年,小鹏汽车相关功能的宣传口吻又改成“L2.5级自动驾驶辅助系统”。\n今年8月,“美一好”餐饮连锁品牌创始人林文钦驾驶蔚来ES8时,同样在开启自动驾驶(NOP智能领航系统)功能的情况下遭遇车祸遇难,家属痛斥蔚来汽车引发公众对“自动驾驶辅助系统”的质疑。\n此后,小鹏汽车在官网上把自动驾驶辅助系统中的“自动”改成了“智能”,宣传文案变为“XPILOT3.5智能辅助驾驶系统”。小鹏相关人士表示,改名的原因就是舆论对于自动驾驶的质疑,希望能够客观一些。\n回到这次事故,NGP为何未能识别出前方的慢速板车?\n资料显示,小鹏P7全车搭载了31个传感器,使用的是英伟达此前最先进的Xavier自动驾驶芯片。在NGP工作时,视觉摄像头和毫米波雷达组成的感知组合方案便会各自感知目标,系统会对感知结果进行分析、交叉验证,并按照分析结果辅助驾驶车辆。\n而这两类感知传感器的工作原理各不相同,毫米波雷达依靠回波探测物体,并且对移动的物体非常敏感(对静止和缓行物体不敏感)。此次事故中,前方的大货车就是处于缓行状态,车载视频显示碰撞前一秒有报警声,说明毫米波雷达虽然反应迟钝但最终检测到了板车。\n有观点认为,从技术层面来看,此次事故或是因为视觉摄像头感知失败。\n视觉检测上,小鹏P7搭载了14个摄像头,具有远、中、近和180°视野。业内人士指出,摄像头感知方法是使用大量的样本训练用来进行目标检测,该检测模型的召回率与样本的数量和质量有直接关系。\n而事故中的前车为没有货箱的板车,尾部低矮平板完全遮挡车轮,属于异形车,在实际的训练数据集中数量和占比都很少。因此,业内人士认为,目前的感知算法难以将这类车识别为需要反应的车辆。\n知乎答主“大包子狸”也持相同观点,他认为,事故中前方平板车的截图影像存在一定不规则情况,导致摄像头未能识别出该图形属于卡车,这种场景下是需要驾驶员来干预的。 \n\n但类似的罕见车辆类型,在生活中并不罕见,林文钦驾驶蔚来ES8撞上的就是一辆高速公路养护施工车。\n8月底,一辆特斯拉Model3在美国佛罗里达州奥兰多市附近的州际公路上,撞上了一辆停靠路边的警车,一名警员险些受伤。此后,美国国家公路交通安全管理局(NHTSA)宣布对特斯拉自动驾驶进行正式调查。\n其原因是特斯拉自动驾驶状态下路况识别功能或存在缺陷,存在与路边停放的车辆有发生相撞的风险。\n实际上,对于目前L2辅助驾驶功能上的毫米波雷达+摄像头的视觉算法技术路线,不少业内人士都认为其存在技术缺陷。\n法雷奥中国CTO顾剑民表示,“对摄像头来说,需要用机器学习来训练识别物体,但静态物体类别多,形态也千差万别,没经过样本训练识别不了;对毫米波雷达来说,主要是受目标对电磁波反射敏感度影响,有些橡胶类静态物反射不好,识别会困难。”\n这也意味着,L2只适合在某些特定场景使用。蔚来就在其用户手册中警告,当与前车相对车速大于每小时50公里时,如前车静止或缓行,Pilot(自动驾驶辅助系统)存在无法刹停的风险。\n自动驾驶还有很长的“路”要走\n自动驾驶属于一项新技术,用户或许对新事物有一定容错底线,但一次次用危险换来的教训,却不容忽视。\n目前国内外政策已经达成共识,自动驾驶0-5级划分中,0-3级驾驶任务接管由驾驶员来完成,驾驶员为驾驶行为最终责任人;4-5级也就是高级自动驾驶和完全自动驾驶条件下,驾驶任务由系统来接管,系统为最终责任人。 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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>相比下,拥有「港版纳指」之称的恒生科技指数,表现惨不忍睹,不但跑输通涨,更要录得负回报。</p>\n<p>于2020年7月27日,恒生科技指数以6918的基数正式启动,截止8月11日,收报6820点,累计下滑1.4%,从2月高位更是跌了近38%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38eb29b0bb2a0108470ee967d3ef458f\" tg-width=\"903\" tg-height=\"461\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>同期,纳指100上涨43%。</p>\n<p>纳指100于1985年2月发布,基点为125,现在已经涨到15000点水平。</p>\n<p>毕竟,纳指是全球的顶级资产,包括<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">微软</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">亚马逊</a>等,两大指数背后公司质地的不同,也令可比性大大减少。</p>\n<p>但事实上,恒生科技指数的垃圾表现,更多是来自于指数的一个重大Bug,“快速纳入机制”。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ebc7b1cbcf43810ee7b3b17d8439741a\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>不过,先来看两个指数的相似与不同之处,恒生科技指数由30只股票构成,纳指包括所有于美国那斯达克上市的股份,多于1700只,而纳指100则基于前100只。</p>\n<p>不论从市场深度,或是宽度,恒生科技指数与纳指100无疑是相差极远。</p>\n<p>但从占比来说,结构上却是相近。两大指数均是在市值加权的基础上,按相应的指数编制规则计算出来。</p>\n<p>于恒生科技指数中,占比最多为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">阿里巴巴</a>,近12%,其次是8.8%的小米以及8.2%的舜宇光学,前5大共占44%,前10大占69%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e3efe02cc762a1a1b0af676df1c74f8b\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"645\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>纳指100方面,占比依次最大是苹果、微软、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>,分别为13%、12%、10%,前5大/10大共占50%/62%。</p>\n<p>所以说,两大指数均取决于头10大企业的表现。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0e50a30571a8d2ace1eb7b15e8975487\" tg-width=\"901\" tg-height=\"731\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>具体来看,对比250日的涨跌幅,美股前20名无一下跌,表现最厉害的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>,涨近160%,而最差的是亚马逊,涨不到10%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a7f55b3fb1bc4eb2598349a5b9e0bb13\" tg-width=\"829\" tg-height=\"626\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>至于恒生科技指数,全部30只,同期有14只上涨,数量接近一半,体现出企业质地的差别,其中表现最好的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00909\">明源云</a>,其次是小米,最差的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01797\">新东方在线</a>和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ATHM\">汽车之家</a>。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/86c78a4d5d5a4f314b4a15c764cf4bdc\" tg-width=\"687\" tg-height=\"663\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>当然,这未考虑到期间指数的变动,以权重带来的影响,以<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EDU\">新东方</a>在线为例,从一开始便在指数当中,占比为1.57%。</p>\n<p>由于指数没什么变动,以目前占0.11%来计算,下跌86%仅拖累指数1.25%,影响不到90点,虽然是拖累,但算是雷声大雨点小。</p>\n<p>权重最大的那几只,才是最致命的伤害。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c47a24bfcc1e6154d82c7a0023c90ab6\" tg-width=\"1077\" tg-height=\"520\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>从变化来看,阿里巴巴从当初的8.53%占比提升至12.02%,这并不是股价好,只是于今年7月份最为抗跌,占比才从7月初的8.2%大幅提升接近4个百份点。</p>\n<p>近20个交易日,成份股有一半以上跌幅超过10%,包括占比超过5%的腾讯、美团和京东。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ec8f62e50aaa3a6f1ef8163c031a4de\" tg-width=\"569\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>从发布至今,幸好有小米和舜宇光学在支撑,两者期内累涨约76%和48%,为指数贡献近10%涨幅。</p>\n<p>拖累最厉害的,依次是阿里巴巴、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00241\">阿里健康</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01833\">平安好医生</a>,这不包括被删除的,由于当初加起来比重不到6%,故此忽略不看。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a59e3b168c20003cde4d5f62b523e16\" tg-width=\"674\" tg-height=\"404\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>突如其来的政策风险,对指数下滑来说还可以说是非战之罪。</p>\n<p>但核心问题,主要在于互联网行业占比过重,面对政策风险,基本上是一网打尽。</p>\n<p>雪上加霜的是,恒生科技指数的bug直接引入了泡沫,进一步加大波动性。</p>\n<p>在调整频率上,纳指100和恒生科技指数均是在每季度进行定期调整,不同的是,后者增加了“快速纳入机制”。</p>\n<p>若符合条件的新股上市首日市值在现有成份股中排名前十,则将会在该新股上市后的第十个交易日收市后将其纳入指数。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9452409f60df744127ffb8497a18243\" tg-width=\"680\" tg-height=\"701\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>这机制不是恒生指数公司独创,纳斯达克编制部份指数时也会采用,例如丹麦OMX哥本哈根20指数、瑞典OMX斯德哥尔摩30指数等。</p>\n<p>机制的出发点在于能更好地反映市场的变化,只是理想很丰满,现实却很骨感。</p>\n<p>目前股市已处于一级市场疯子定价,二级市场傻子接盘的时代。</p>\n<p>火热的新股估值往往充满泡沫,更甚的是,随着港股逐步A股化,以及新股打着稀缺性的旗号,吸引大量散户进场,促使泡沫进一步巨大化,也令恒生科技指数成为了巨大的牺牲品。</p>\n<p>从发布至今,恒生科技指数一共出现了四次快速纳入,分别是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06618\">京东健康</a>、快手、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>以及<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BILI\">哔哩哔哩</a>。</p>\n<p>由于快速纳入的重点在于市值够大,变相来说公司被纳入后,占比将会不轻,大一点的波动对指数也会带来明显的影响。</p>\n<p>从各别股票纳入至今,跌幅均达到20%以上,京东健康跌了56%,市值从5800亿跌至2600亿。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8f78901a3110e1d2c22a87873c40e7e9\" tg-width=\"1077\" tg-height=\"516\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>快手跌了76%,市值从14900亿跌至3500亿。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11dcd002b8aa71072105a3a18ea9f801\" tg-width=\"1074\" tg-height=\"527\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>换算下来,两者共拖累指数下跌逾7%,可以说是港股指数历史上的最大惨剧之一。</p>\n<p>未来如果再有数千亿以上的企业来港上市,这惨剧可能会再一次发生,而下一个可能是字节跳动。</p>\n<p>公司去年12月的投后估值为1800亿美元,另根据4月份报导,外界估计估值已逾4000亿美元,相当于31200亿港元,仅次于<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>和阿里四万多亿的水平,意味这潜在惨剧的规模将会更为巨大。</p>\n<p>如果一个投资者,为了分享企业科技进步带来增值的机会,因而配置了恒生科技指数的ETF,最终只会沦为被收割的韭菜。</p>\n<p>在快速纳入机制下,被动资金成为了新股泡沫的接盘者,某程度如以前的MSCI指数一样。</p>\n<p>最后,目前巨额机构资金囤集一级市场,疯狂吞噬新股上市后二级市场的溢价,贪婪吸食散户的利益,令股市的投资功能丧失殆尽。</p>\n<p>只希望港股的指数能尽快改革,避免沦为收割者的帮凶。</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1055767104\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/e72e80eef358bde27914deb6b2315953);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">丫丫港股圈 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-08-17 10:31</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>近半年多以来,在通胀阴云之下,美股崩盘声此起彼落,但仍然无阻其持续创新高。</p>\n<p>从去年谷底至今,纳指表现最好,涨幅达到123%,而标普500和道指涨幅则分别为103%和94%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a83c5243b25706540b1a739dee317fc4\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"421\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>纳指领涨的背后基于两大原因,一是疫情催化了大量科技需求,例如远程办公、电商等,亦推动了科技行业的快速发展。</p>\n<p>二是在零息环境下,现金流贴现模型的估值得到大幅提升,而市场对高估值容忍度也更为放松。</p>\n<p>两大因素共振造就了永远的神,促使美股每次回调后都创新高。</p>\n<p>以纳指100为例,估值早已突破了近10年高位,处于35倍PE的水平。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b2b799e81531ae4c0ca2a363867c7d1b\" tg-width=\"921\" tg-height=\"484\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>相比下,拥有「港版纳指」之称的恒生科技指数,表现惨不忍睹,不但跑输通涨,更要录得负回报。</p>\n<p>于2020年7月27日,恒生科技指数以6918的基数正式启动,截止8月11日,收报6820点,累计下滑1.4%,从2月高位更是跌了近38%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38eb29b0bb2a0108470ee967d3ef458f\" tg-width=\"903\" tg-height=\"461\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>同期,纳指100上涨43%。</p>\n<p>纳指100于1985年2月发布,基点为125,现在已经涨到15000点水平。</p>\n<p>毕竟,纳指是全球的顶级资产,包括<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">微软</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">亚马逊</a>等,两大指数背后公司质地的不同,也令可比性大大减少。</p>\n<p>但事实上,恒生科技指数的垃圾表现,更多是来自于指数的一个重大Bug,“快速纳入机制”。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ebc7b1cbcf43810ee7b3b17d8439741a\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>不过,先来看两个指数的相似与不同之处,恒生科技指数由30只股票构成,纳指包括所有于美国那斯达克上市的股份,多于1700只,而纳指100则基于前100只。</p>\n<p>不论从市场深度,或是宽度,恒生科技指数与纳指100无疑是相差极远。</p>\n<p>但从占比来说,结构上却是相近。两大指数均是在市值加权的基础上,按相应的指数编制规则计算出来。</p>\n<p>于恒生科技指数中,占比最多为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">阿里巴巴</a>,近12%,其次是8.8%的小米以及8.2%的舜宇光学,前5大共占44%,前10大占69%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e3efe02cc762a1a1b0af676df1c74f8b\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"645\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>纳指100方面,占比依次最大是苹果、微软、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>,分别为13%、12%、10%,前5大/10大共占50%/62%。</p>\n<p>所以说,两大指数均取决于头10大企业的表现。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0e50a30571a8d2ace1eb7b15e8975487\" tg-width=\"901\" tg-height=\"731\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>具体来看,对比250日的涨跌幅,美股前20名无一下跌,表现最厉害的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>,涨近160%,而最差的是亚马逊,涨不到10%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a7f55b3fb1bc4eb2598349a5b9e0bb13\" tg-width=\"829\" tg-height=\"626\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>至于恒生科技指数,全部30只,同期有14只上涨,数量接近一半,体现出企业质地的差别,其中表现最好的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00909\">明源云</a>,其次是小米,最差的是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01797\">新东方在线</a>和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ATHM\">汽车之家</a>。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/86c78a4d5d5a4f314b4a15c764cf4bdc\" tg-width=\"687\" tg-height=\"663\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>当然,这未考虑到期间指数的变动,以权重带来的影响,以<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EDU\">新东方</a>在线为例,从一开始便在指数当中,占比为1.57%。</p>\n<p>由于指数没什么变动,以目前占0.11%来计算,下跌86%仅拖累指数1.25%,影响不到90点,虽然是拖累,但算是雷声大雨点小。</p>\n<p>权重最大的那几只,才是最致命的伤害。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c47a24bfcc1e6154d82c7a0023c90ab6\" tg-width=\"1077\" tg-height=\"520\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>从变化来看,阿里巴巴从当初的8.53%占比提升至12.02%,这并不是股价好,只是于今年7月份最为抗跌,占比才从7月初的8.2%大幅提升接近4个百份点。</p>\n<p>近20个交易日,成份股有一半以上跌幅超过10%,包括占比超过5%的腾讯、美团和京东。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ec8f62e50aaa3a6f1ef8163c031a4de\" tg-width=\"569\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>从发布至今,幸好有小米和舜宇光学在支撑,两者期内累涨约76%和48%,为指数贡献近10%涨幅。</p>\n<p>拖累最厉害的,依次是阿里巴巴、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00241\">阿里健康</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01833\">平安好医生</a>,这不包括被删除的,由于当初加起来比重不到6%,故此忽略不看。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a59e3b168c20003cde4d5f62b523e16\" tg-width=\"674\" tg-height=\"404\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>突如其来的政策风险,对指数下滑来说还可以说是非战之罪。</p>\n<p>但核心问题,主要在于互联网行业占比过重,面对政策风险,基本上是一网打尽。</p>\n<p>雪上加霜的是,恒生科技指数的bug直接引入了泡沫,进一步加大波动性。</p>\n<p>在调整频率上,纳指100和恒生科技指数均是在每季度进行定期调整,不同的是,后者增加了“快速纳入机制”。</p>\n<p>若符合条件的新股上市首日市值在现有成份股中排名前十,则将会在该新股上市后的第十个交易日收市后将其纳入指数。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9452409f60df744127ffb8497a18243\" tg-width=\"680\" tg-height=\"701\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>这机制不是恒生指数公司独创,纳斯达克编制部份指数时也会采用,例如丹麦OMX哥本哈根20指数、瑞典OMX斯德哥尔摩30指数等。</p>\n<p>机制的出发点在于能更好地反映市场的变化,只是理想很丰满,现实却很骨感。</p>\n<p>目前股市已处于一级市场疯子定价,二级市场傻子接盘的时代。</p>\n<p>火热的新股估值往往充满泡沫,更甚的是,随着港股逐步A股化,以及新股打着稀缺性的旗号,吸引大量散户进场,促使泡沫进一步巨大化,也令恒生科技指数成为了巨大的牺牲品。</p>\n<p>从发布至今,恒生科技指数一共出现了四次快速纳入,分别是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06618\">京东健康</a>、快手、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>以及<a 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