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独立投资人
09-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
Tsla 交付数据+ robotaxi两个催化剂 这是最大的行情
独立投资人
09-26
$哔哩哔哩-W(09626)$
之前跌的最多的弹性越大 猛干泡沫化
独立投资人
09-25
$KWEB 20241018 30.0 CALL$
行情在绝望中诞生 中国资产被压抑太久了 降息+政策刺激+情绪 多重奏了
独立投资人
07-22
$TSLA 20250321 150.0 PUT$
投资业绩:盈利72% 财报前锁利了 落袋为安 逻辑:tesla当时跌破200,认为tesla不会大跌,即使跌到150也愿意买入正股,后来短暂到了140,迅速回来
独立投资人
06-13
Tesla快从底部走出来了
情绪反转,利空靴子落地,出坏消息不跌了,出一点好消息就大涨,证明行情快走出来了
Tesla快从底部走出来了
独立投资人
04-08
湾区亲身体验FSD V12,tesla GPT moment!tesla的估值反转可能是未来几年最大的投资机会
FSD V12 亲身体验,feel like a human driver,So much better than V11. FSD V12.3 非常震撼!连续两天体验对比V12比V11体感全方位提高,安全,稳重, smooth。 在无保护左转和速度控制方面改善明显。特意选了上下闸道,downtown行人自行车交错各种复杂路段测试,V12更像是一个高素质稳健的老司机,而不是机器在开车。这还不最终形态,但是V12有点接近gpt时刻的感觉了。 第一天体验 V11,V11在高速上整体表现尚可,但是在下闸道时加速过猛(人类一般会缓慢减速),在downtown就问题较多,左转时先是谨慎等待然后启动时突然加速有晕车感,在遇到行人离很远or有自行车很远时也会停很久等待,有车辆冲出时会左右晃方向盘,整体而言激进时比人类更激进,保守时比人类更保守,坐下来体验并不舒适。 第二天体验V12 三小时各种复杂路况测试,cornercase处理合理,全程都梗smooth,几个细节相比于V11明显提升: 1 在highway下闸道控制速度更加smooth,不会突然加速和减速。 更安全 2 无保护左转时会根据红绿灯和前车距离保持合理车距跟车,右转时甚至会考虑到对面左转车的速度分别选择了等待 or 直接右转(这点特别像人开车!之前大部分都是会多等一会) 3 在一个核心城区交叉路口的stop sign,表现尤为出色,一个斜上方garage出车,左右两边行人很多,同时车辆stop sign停留时间不一致,v12会比较稳重的测试到行人 周围车辆距离安全后 丝滑的穿过,像人一样把握时机。 4 比人类更绅士,在一个等红灯处,v12停车距离有两个车距,原来是摄像头探测到了有一辆黑车从旁边的停车处驶出(人类司机还没有注意到)v12礼貌让它先走,对方也招了下手表示感谢 整体坐起来舒适很多,乘客感觉和坐滴滴ub
湾区亲身体验FSD V12,tesla GPT moment!tesla的估值反转可能是未来几年最大的投资机会
独立投资人
03-14
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
短期有挑战,长期大牛股!中期看到500 2025年重回双位数增长,未来新的车型cyber,model2. 让公司能够deliver 30%-50%,未来干到1000万台车,第二个betAI,智能驾驶落地,FSD的渗透率提升,10%到30%,1m-2m FSD,累计可能已经卖了几千万台,一辆车贡献8000-1万美金subscrition, 获得超百亿美金软件利润,撑起估值,以及最终无人驾驶实现subscription收费,第三个是人形机器人,这个比较远。 整体看tesla回到万亿美金以上市值只是时间问题,如果跌到150 100 就是机会
独立投资人
01-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
短期大跌会有阵痛,长期看每次暴跌都是加仓机会! 首先说这次财报,确实低于预期,margin np miss no guidance 市场把它看作Ai公司的核心原因是因为他的毛利净利润很高 现在毛利极速下滑 对他的估值支撑挑战很大 。 其次看downside:Topline Market consensus 特斯拉今年将售出210-220万辆汽车,比2023年增长约20% (US7.9%,EV total penetration 9% China 40% )要回到30%以上的增长需要等2025年。同时margin 仅为17.6%,自2019年以来的最低水平,今年预计会持续降价 净利率进一步受到影响。这一块卖车按车来拍,120-130亿美金,30PE,3000亿美金 upside看FSD ai 机器人:Target 3.78 consensus, 120亿-130亿美金利润(卖车90亿美金+ fsd 30-40) 。总股本31.79亿,算下来净利润12是123亿 ,40PE 150。但是FSD这一块几十亿利润 高毛利 高增长 可以给到50PE-100PE 越涨越低 撑起未来想象空间(23比亚迪现在净利润consensus是24年413亿,25年530亿,forward PE不高,核心还是只有制造业没有软件的故事) 所以tesla短期会有震荡,弹性极大,坏消息时都是坏消息,好消息时又都是好消息,所以watch it,如果跌到了好的点位,就是机会。中长期Tesla AI公司的愿景并未改变
独立投资人
2023-07-20
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
Musk现在放弃毛利逻辑铺量并没有错, 智能汽车是下一个Super computing:下一个移动终端,只卖车特斯拉不值万亿美金,核心是赌自动驾驶软件定义汽车,特斯拉长期向上的动能不变
独立投资人
2023-04-06
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@独立投资人
: 万亿美金Tesla,市场开始认识到tesla真正的价值,最大工业市场的利益链重构,从山寨机到智能机
@独立投资人:
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
牛市估值没有上限… 被震惊了
独立投资人
2023-04-06
两年过去了市场验证了tesla是过去两年最现象级的投资//
@独立投资人
: 万亿美金Tesla,市场开始认识到tesla真正的价值,最大工业市场的利益链重构,从山寨机到智能机
@独立投资人:
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
牛市估值没有上限… 被震惊了
独立投资人
2021-01-05
万亿美金Tesla,市场开始认识到tesla真正的价值,最大工业市场的利益链重构,从山寨机到智能机
@独立投资人:
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
牛市估值没有上限… 被震惊了
独立投资人
2021-01-05
万亿人民币小米
@独立投资人:
$小米集团-W(01810)$
在大跌时强势上涨,本身就说明了公司的优质性。 基本面好的公司,每一次大回调都是买入机会。
独立投资人
2021-01-05
400亿美金
@独立投资人:
$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$
市场形成了强认知,bilibili是现在年轻人的最大社交社区。资金持续涌入,B站破百亿美金是时间问题
独立投资人
2020-07-13
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
牛市估值没有上限… 被震惊了
独立投资人
2020-07-06
动能起来了
@独立投资人:
$老虎证券(TIGR)$
老虎的收入是富途的一半,估值是富途的四分之一,老虎需要一点动能。
独立投资人
2020-07-06
$老虎证券(TIGR)$
1 疫情之下全民炒股券商受益 2 中国牛市预期,带动中概股 3 Tiger和富途之间的估值溢价不合理,市场会修正。
独立投资人
2020-06-26
$声网(API)$
看多SaaS优质公司
独立投资人
2020-06-16
Second wave is coming: Long stay home stock, put out of home stock
独立投资人
2020-05-18
$跟谁学(GSX)$
浑水这个助攻打的
去老虎APP查看更多动态
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100 就是机会","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$特斯拉(TSLA)$ </a> 短期有挑战,长期大牛股!中期看到500 2025年重回双位数增长,未来新的车型cyber,model2. 让公司能够deliver 30%-50%,未来干到1000万台车,第二个betAI,智能驾驶落地,FSD的渗透率提升,10%到30%,1m-2m FSD,累计可能已经卖了几千万台,一辆车贡献8000-1万美金subscrition, 获得超百亿美金软件利润,撑起估值,以及最终无人驾驶实现subscription收费,第三个是人形机器人,这个比较远。 整体看tesla回到万亿美金以上市值只是时间问题,如果跌到150 100 就是机会","text":"$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 短期有挑战,长期大牛股!中期看到500 2025年重回双位数增长,未来新的车型cyber,model2. 让公司能够deliver 30%-50%,未来干到1000万台车,第二个betAI,智能驾驶落地,FSD的渗透率提升,10%到30%,1m-2m FSD,累计可能已经卖了几千万台,一辆车贡献8000-1万美金subscrition, 获得超百亿美金软件利润,撑起估值,以及最终无人驾驶实现subscription收费,第三个是人形机器人,这个比较远。 整体看tesla回到万亿美金以上市值只是时间问题,如果跌到150 100 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