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20:14","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"特斯拉最牛散户股东:华裔大爷抛掉百度、蔚来,只信马斯克","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1148647704","media":"虎嗅","summary":"华尔街开始关注因特斯拉而“大获全胜”的亿万富翁,后者接连浮出水面。","content":"<p>作者| 宇多田</p>\n<p>来源| 虎嗅科技组</p>\n<p>好像是在一夜之间,人们才“恍然大悟”,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>在本周破万亿的市值,以及马斯克打破3000亿美元大关的身价,其实早就间接创造了无数个“特斯拉富翁”——</p>\n<p>他们因大量购买特斯拉股票而“发家致富”。甚至彭博怀疑,有不少尚未被发现的亿万富翁。</p>\n<p>永远都在坚持“以钱度人”的华尔街,可能早就忘了2016年把马斯克与特斯拉和SpaceX往死里骂的往事。</p>\n<p>就在全球最大汽车租赁公司——<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HTZ\">赫兹</a>控股本周一宣布购入10万辆特斯拉让后者股价大涨13%后,除了不情不愿的褒奖,华尔街也开始关注因特斯拉而“大获全胜”的亿万富翁,后者接连浮出水面。</p>\n<p>譬如,除了仅次于马斯克的第二大个人股东、Oracle(<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">甲骨文</a>)联合创始人拉里·埃里森(他持有特斯拉超过1500万股股票),据彭博独家报道,仅次于这俩人的特斯拉第三大个人股东,很有可能是一位出生于印尼的美籍华裔商人。</p>\n<p>他的名字叫廖凯原。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d7f54c6f10cd5592aa0c9e3b0b730340\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"431\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>今年9月廖凯原与马斯克的合照。</p>\n<p>彭博是从廖凯原从2021年9月便开始分享投资细节的<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a>上找到蛛丝马迹的。</p>\n<p>譬如,在他2021年10月29号发的一条推文里,因看好特斯拉,他又增持了这家电动车企大约16万股,现在共有大约700多万股份(下图)。</p>\n<p>此外,他向彭博社提供了相关银行记录——截至9月底,他持有631万股特斯拉股票;还持有182万份期权,有权以每股450美元到550美元的价格购买特斯股票。</p>\n<blockquote>\n “他所持有的资产价值在不断飙升:达到40亿美元,50亿美元,\n <b>现在已经超过70亿美元</b>。”\n</blockquote>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39e49439292c42c3825b837cc0748d69\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"591\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>翻阅这位华裔商人以往的公开资料,可以非常确定的是,他过去几年相对低调,只在最近接受过彭博一家媒体的采访。而他向媒体透露的有价值信息,也仅仅跟特斯拉的投资相关:</p>\n<p>作为一个散户,他从2019年才进入股票市场,<b>曾先后把大量的钱注入了<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">英伟达</a>以及<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>等科技企业与汽车新势力,但后来几乎都清理掉了,最后只留了一个赌注,就是特斯拉。</b></p>\n<p>至于为何一定是特斯拉且仅留特斯拉,他仅<b>透露了两点</b>:</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>特斯拉的投资人Dave Lee与巴伦资本创始人Ron Baron给了他一些启发,便开始关注新兴电动汽车制造商,用杠杆作用提高赌注。</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>当然,把鸡蛋放在一个篮子里是有极大风险的,他自己提到,2020年~2021年初遭遇特斯拉股价暴跌,他的股票几乎失去了价值,但他说自己仍然继续买进。</p>\n<p>“购买短期价值较高的股票期权,股价上涨时获利回吐;用其中一部分收益购买实际股票,剩下的投入另一个期权投资。换句话说,就是一次又一次地加倍下注。” 彭博援引廖凯原的描述。</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>第二,他是特斯拉粉丝团的忠实粉丝之一。“他相信该公司正走在成为世界最大电动汽车制造商的单行道上”云云。</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/896d885bf0e0b7bc4204ccbdce478cef\" tg-width=\"425\" tg-height=\"284\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>在清华大学凯原楼落成典礼上</p>\n<p>当然,如果以个人资产来衡量一个人的成就,那么特斯拉和SpaceX可能就失去了他们的存在价值。廖凯原在Linkedin上的身份信息,只有两个。</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>一个是他与前妻创立的软件转售服务公司SHI International,他仍然是这家年收入可达100亿美元、拥有<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/IBM\">IBM</a>等客户的IT服务商董事长,持股40%(这个数据可能有变);但实际经营者是他的前妻Thai Lee。</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>2015年,被福布斯保守估计身价高于18亿美元,56岁白手起家的女亿万富翁之一Thai Lee,曾在接受采访讲述自己的创业故事时,简单透露了跟廖凯原一起创立SHI的背景——</p>\n<blockquote>\n “他们在1989年发现了一个商机,有家名为Lautek的软件公司濒临倒闭,但他们有个专门出售2B软件商业许可证的部门,仍然与IBM等软件供应商关联密切。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 她认为这里面蕴藏着一些商业价值。因此他们用存款和贷款把它买了下来,并改名为Software House International(SHI,世界软件屋)。顾名思义,就是给很多企业IT部门提供多类型软件购买、商业许可与支付等繁琐服务的服务商。”\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 后来,这家公司年收入超过60亿美元,而两人也成为亿万富翁。\n</blockquote>\n<p>很遗憾,当时廖凯原拒绝了福布斯的采访。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f1924b4eeed8cb2220888b3040e5253\" tg-width=\"416\" tg-height=\"416\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Thai Lee,据说是第一个考上美国哈佛商学院的韩裔</p>\n<p>而他另一个身份,也许在国内不少人非常熟悉。因为6年前,这个身份曾给中国大众,特别是国内学术界带来不小的震动与争议——</p>\n<p><b>“凯原量子信息动力学”(KoGuan Quantum InfoDynamics ,简称KQID) 时间引擎的创造者。</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aef31797e0ce91d45c437279611004fb\" tg-width=\"934\" tg-height=\"280\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>当然,这个艰深难懂的理论,<b>曾伴随着2015年前后,他在向包括北大、清华、复旦、上海交大等中国知名学府捐赠数亿款项修建教学楼</b>后,被作为一门选修课,呈到四家法律学院学生的面前。</p>\n<p>而他也被各大高校给予了“校董”与“名誉教授”的头衔,甚至开设了选修课。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/83054f482974db1355d173294d6c092b\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"625\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>而后面引起的轩然大波,都是从他创立的这个学说为源头蔓延开的。</p>\n<p>首先,<b>单就这个完全由个人创立的、横跨东西方文化的理论来看,的确超出了常人可以理解的范围</b>。</p>\n<p>譬如,关于KQID的定义,根据我们在凯原基金会网站查找到的官方资料显示,它更像是一种看似杂糅了“天上地下你能想到的所有学科”的<b>综合体</b>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n “结合了牛顿、麦克斯韦、爱因斯坦等科学家现有理论,以及中国黄帝内经等传统学说,形成了一个简单的统一理论:整体包含部分,部分包含整体。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n KQID认为的‘现实’在本质上是非常矛盾的:虚构但真实。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 它描绘了真正令人震惊的现实:“存在”是一个实时全息图,利用量子隧道和纠缠机制进行数字投影,而且来自一个且只有一个的非局部奇点性量子多元宇宙。”\n</blockquote>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23f1e96db3316922869d6caa0ecdc268\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"660\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>摘自凯原基金会网站主页,大家可自行去翻看</p>\n<p>在一份他公开的名为《轩辕召唤》的作品(下图,不太清楚是不是论文)中,作为取得了哥伦比亚大学“国际事务”学位与纽约大学法学学位的法律专业人士,他这篇将“量子力学”等物理学科与《黄帝四经》《悲惨世界》等中外著作相结合的法治研究,更是晦涩难懂。</p>\n<p>当然,在2015年,甚至很多人觉得简直像是“开国际玩笑”,“99%法律人看不懂”。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc2f83047706d9a4bea114dfab987cc3\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"1294\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e94cb1a37acd331ac31f32f37a845117\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"716\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><b>由于在量子力学与中国古籍研究上都没有积累,我们不能发表过多评论,这个问题还需要归还至学术界的探讨范畴。</b>不过,就我们极为浅显的一些见识来看,其实非常惊讶于他的大胆。</p>\n<p>因为历史上绝大多著名数学家、物理学家的名字,都只是被用来命名一个公式、定理,或者是一种研究方法。而“凯源量子信息&动力学”,直接把自己冠名在一个涵盖了无数理论学派与分支的杂糅体之前,这让中国研究了几十年量子科学的那些白发苍苍的物理学家们,可能会感到不快。</p>\n<p>当然,这种“大胆”也是他被群起而攻之的最大诱因。</p>\n<p>而这种很多人眼中学术理解上的“匪夷所思”,以及对他本人的批评和质疑,<b>延伸到了他为各大高校捐款等慈善事业,以及“大学赞助”等更广泛的视角上。</b></p>\n<p>但实际上,我们不妨从两个角度来看这个问题:</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p><b>他为北大清华甚至上海交大捐款修教学楼,是否给这些法学院学生带来了福利?</b></p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>答案无疑是肯定的。甚至有部分学生获得了凯原基金会提供的奖学金。</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p><b>那么这些学校是否应该在获得他的赠款后,赠予头衔,甚至允许开课?或者让学生去听课?</b></p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>答案就在这篇知乎关于“有人了解廖凯原这个人吗”的一名匿名网友的回答里。这是我们觉得三观最正的答复之一。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c75262fa4aeb44f89324e7b230323524\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"1295\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>来自一位<a 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虎嗅科技组\n好像是在一夜之间,人们才“恍然大悟”,特斯拉在本周破万亿的市值,以及马斯克打破3000亿美元大关的身价,其实早就间接创造了无数个“特斯拉富翁”——\n他们因大量购买特斯拉股票而“发家致富”。甚至彭博怀疑,有不少尚未被发现的亿万富翁。\n永远都在坚持“以钱度人”的华尔街,可能早就忘了2016年把马斯克与特斯拉和SpaceX往死里骂的往事。\n就在全球最大汽车租赁公司——...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.huxiu.com/article/468440.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/521d1a8f8e146ee56ada8ddb834dded3","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.huxiu.com/article/468440.html","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1148647704","content_text":"作者| 宇多田\n来源| 虎嗅科技组\n好像是在一夜之间,人们才“恍然大悟”,特斯拉在本周破万亿的市值,以及马斯克打破3000亿美元大关的身价,其实早就间接创造了无数个“特斯拉富翁”——\n他们因大量购买特斯拉股票而“发家致富”。甚至彭博怀疑,有不少尚未被发现的亿万富翁。\n永远都在坚持“以钱度人”的华尔街,可能早就忘了2016年把马斯克与特斯拉和SpaceX往死里骂的往事。\n就在全球最大汽车租赁公司——赫兹控股本周一宣布购入10万辆特斯拉让后者股价大涨13%后,除了不情不愿的褒奖,华尔街也开始关注因特斯拉而“大获全胜”的亿万富翁,后者接连浮出水面。\n譬如,除了仅次于马斯克的第二大个人股东、Oracle(甲骨文)联合创始人拉里·埃里森(他持有特斯拉超过1500万股股票),据彭博独家报道,仅次于这俩人的特斯拉第三大个人股东,很有可能是一位出生于印尼的美籍华裔商人。\n他的名字叫廖凯原。\n\n今年9月廖凯原与马斯克的合照。\n彭博是从廖凯原从2021年9月便开始分享投资细节的Twitter上找到蛛丝马迹的。\n譬如,在他2021年10月29号发的一条推文里,因看好特斯拉,他又增持了这家电动车企大约16万股,现在共有大约700多万股份(下图)。\n此外,他向彭博社提供了相关银行记录——截至9月底,他持有631万股特斯拉股票;还持有182万份期权,有权以每股450美元到550美元的价格购买特斯股票。\n\n “他所持有的资产价值在不断飙升:达到40亿美元,50亿美元,\n 现在已经超过70亿美元。”\n\n\n翻阅这位华裔商人以往的公开资料,可以非常确定的是,他过去几年相对低调,只在最近接受过彭博一家媒体的采访。而他向媒体透露的有价值信息,也仅仅跟特斯拉的投资相关:\n作为一个散户,他从2019年才进入股票市场,曾先后把大量的钱注入了百度、英伟达以及蔚来等科技企业与汽车新势力,但后来几乎都清理掉了,最后只留了一个赌注,就是特斯拉。\n至于为何一定是特斯拉且仅留特斯拉,他仅透露了两点:\n\n特斯拉的投资人Dave Lee与巴伦资本创始人Ron Baron给了他一些启发,便开始关注新兴电动汽车制造商,用杠杆作用提高赌注。\n\n当然,把鸡蛋放在一个篮子里是有极大风险的,他自己提到,2020年~2021年初遭遇特斯拉股价暴跌,他的股票几乎失去了价值,但他说自己仍然继续买进。\n“购买短期价值较高的股票期权,股价上涨时获利回吐;用其中一部分收益购买实际股票,剩下的投入另一个期权投资。换句话说,就是一次又一次地加倍下注。” 彭博援引廖凯原的描述。\n\n第二,他是特斯拉粉丝团的忠实粉丝之一。“他相信该公司正走在成为世界最大电动汽车制造商的单行道上”云云。\n\n\n在清华大学凯原楼落成典礼上\n当然,如果以个人资产来衡量一个人的成就,那么特斯拉和SpaceX可能就失去了他们的存在价值。廖凯原在Linkedin上的身份信息,只有两个。\n\n一个是他与前妻创立的软件转售服务公司SHI International,他仍然是这家年收入可达100亿美元、拥有IBM等客户的IT服务商董事长,持股40%(这个数据可能有变);但实际经营者是他的前妻Thai Lee。\n\n2015年,被福布斯保守估计身价高于18亿美元,56岁白手起家的女亿万富翁之一Thai Lee,曾在接受采访讲述自己的创业故事时,简单透露了跟廖凯原一起创立SHI的背景——\n\n “他们在1989年发现了一个商机,有家名为Lautek的软件公司濒临倒闭,但他们有个专门出售2B软件商业许可证的部门,仍然与IBM等软件供应商关联密切。\n\n\n 她认为这里面蕴藏着一些商业价值。因此他们用存款和贷款把它买了下来,并改名为Software House International(SHI,世界软件屋)。顾名思义,就是给很多企业IT部门提供多类型软件购买、商业许可与支付等繁琐服务的服务商。”\n\n\n 后来,这家公司年收入超过60亿美元,而两人也成为亿万富翁。\n\n很遗憾,当时廖凯原拒绝了福布斯的采访。\n\nThai Lee,据说是第一个考上美国哈佛商学院的韩裔\n而他另一个身份,也许在国内不少人非常熟悉。因为6年前,这个身份曾给中国大众,特别是国内学术界带来不小的震动与争议——\n“凯原量子信息动力学”(KoGuan Quantum InfoDynamics ,简称KQID) 时间引擎的创造者。\n\n当然,这个艰深难懂的理论,曾伴随着2015年前后,他在向包括北大、清华、复旦、上海交大等中国知名学府捐赠数亿款项修建教学楼后,被作为一门选修课,呈到四家法律学院学生的面前。\n而他也被各大高校给予了“校董”与“名誉教授”的头衔,甚至开设了选修课。\n\n而后面引起的轩然大波,都是从他创立的这个学说为源头蔓延开的。\n首先,单就这个完全由个人创立的、横跨东西方文化的理论来看,的确超出了常人可以理解的范围。\n譬如,关于KQID的定义,根据我们在凯原基金会网站查找到的官方资料显示,它更像是一种看似杂糅了“天上地下你能想到的所有学科”的综合体:\n\n “结合了牛顿、麦克斯韦、爱因斯坦等科学家现有理论,以及中国黄帝内经等传统学说,形成了一个简单的统一理论:整体包含部分,部分包含整体。\n\n\n KQID认为的‘现实’在本质上是非常矛盾的:虚构但真实。\n\n\n 它描绘了真正令人震惊的现实:“存在”是一个实时全息图,利用量子隧道和纠缠机制进行数字投影,而且来自一个且只有一个的非局部奇点性量子多元宇宙。”\n\n\n摘自凯原基金会网站主页,大家可自行去翻看\n在一份他公开的名为《轩辕召唤》的作品(下图,不太清楚是不是论文)中,作为取得了哥伦比亚大学“国际事务”学位与纽约大学法学学位的法律专业人士,他这篇将“量子力学”等物理学科与《黄帝四经》《悲惨世界》等中外著作相结合的法治研究,更是晦涩难懂。\n当然,在2015年,甚至很多人觉得简直像是“开国际玩笑”,“99%法律人看不懂”。\n\n\n由于在量子力学与中国古籍研究上都没有积累,我们不能发表过多评论,这个问题还需要归还至学术界的探讨范畴。不过,就我们极为浅显的一些见识来看,其实非常惊讶于他的大胆。\n因为历史上绝大多著名数学家、物理学家的名字,都只是被用来命名一个公式、定理,或者是一种研究方法。而“凯源量子信息&动力学”,直接把自己冠名在一个涵盖了无数理论学派与分支的杂糅体之前,这让中国研究了几十年量子科学的那些白发苍苍的物理学家们,可能会感到不快。\n当然,这种“大胆”也是他被群起而攻之的最大诱因。\n而这种很多人眼中学术理解上的“匪夷所思”,以及对他本人的批评和质疑,延伸到了他为各大高校捐款等慈善事业,以及“大学赞助”等更广泛的视角上。\n但实际上,我们不妨从两个角度来看这个问题:\n\n他为北大清华甚至上海交大捐款修教学楼,是否给这些法学院学生带来了福利?\n\n答案无疑是肯定的。甚至有部分学生获得了凯原基金会提供的奖学金。\n\n那么这些学校是否应该在获得他的赠款后,赠予头衔,甚至允许开课?或者让学生去听课?\n\n答案就在这篇知乎关于“有人了解廖凯原这个人吗”的一名匿名网友的回答里。这是我们觉得三观最正的答复之一。\n\n来自一位知乎匿名网友的回答\n仅靠公开信息能推导出的是,学术机构是否存在问题。而学术上的争议,如果不认同他的理论,可以选择有理有据地辩驳;如果是不强迫的选修课,可以选择不听。\n总之,世界不应该只有一种声音,只要不害人,但需要你有自己的判断(譬如,两年前在商业市场出现的“量子波动速读”骗局,也超出了常人理解的范畴)。\n有趣的是,他在接受彭博的采访中,被问及他是否会抛售这些股票,或者兑现自己的部分收益。他的回答大体意思就是“再涨涨”——\n\n 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硬实力究竟如何?</b></b></p>\n<p><b>10月28日,比亚迪公布了公司第三季度业绩报告,数据显示,前三季度比亚迪营收达到1451.92亿元,同比增长38.25%;前三季度实现净利润24.43亿元,同比下降28.43%;其中第三季度实现净利润12.7亿元,同比下降27.5%。从数据可以看出,比亚迪增收不增利。</b></p>\n<p>值得注意的是,在发布三季报之前,比亚迪股价创出历史新高,市值逼近万亿,市场的期待有目共睹,然而比亚迪自身的硬实力究竟如何?如今比亚迪净利润大跌27.5%,让不明真相的群众马上能联想到:比亚迪的支撑力不足。</p>\n<p>之所以说比亚迪市场表现强势,主要还是从乘用车销售量来看。不仅是房地产,我国的汽车行业也有“金九银十”的说法,在九、十月这个销售的黄金月份,我<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600617\">国新能源</a>车的市场总销量增长迅猛。</p>\n<p>根据乘联会数据显示,9月,新能源乘用车零售销量达到33.3万辆,同比增长202.0%,环比增长33.6%,对比传统燃油车环比增长9%、同比下降17.4%的数据,新能源车势头正盛。其中,比亚迪正是国内新能源车卖的最好的那一家。根据比亚迪公布的数据,9月,比亚迪乘用车的总销量达到了79037辆,同比增长93.2%,环比增长16.9%。其中,新能源车销量达到了70022辆,同比增长276.4%,占比亚迪9月整体销量的88.6%。在乘联会新能源销量排行榜的前十,比亚迪占了四席,具体为EV车型(销量达到36306辆)、DM车型(销量达到33716辆),问鼎9月份中国新能源车销量冠军,摘获销量排行的四连桂冠。</p>\n<p>虽然表现亮眼,但比亚迪增收不增利,根据财报数据,比亚迪近12个月的毛利率为16.1%,净利率为2.9%,生意很“艰辛”,税后利润很一般。公司并没有赚到多少钱。笔者认为,这背后的原因有二:</p>\n<p>第一,生产成本的上升。根据比亚迪2021年中报显示,比亚迪的业务构成为日用电子器件制造业、交通运输设备制造业、电子元器件制造业和其他,占营收比例分别为:47.46%、43.08%、9.12%和0.34%。显然,电池制造和汽车制造是比亚迪的核心业务。现在,新能源汽车又是比亚迪的王牌,因此新能源车和新能源电池受影响,是比亚迪利润下降的主要因素。</p>\n<p>受疫情影响下的“芯片荒”还没有过去,全球范围内的锂原料和钴原料涨价潮又席卷了整个产业,根据<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300226\">上海钢联</a>发布的数据,10月26日,部分锂电材料报价继续上涨,碳酸锂涨2000元/吨,氢氧化锂涨1000-2000元/吨;电解钴涨3500元/吨;硫酸钴、钴中间品均涨1000元/吨。根据高工产研锂电研究所分析,原材料价格上涨传导至动力电池端的成本涨幅约20%-25%,这么大幅的成本上升,需要厂商“硬接”下来,不涨价的话,就必须要用利润去填坑。</p>\n<p>第二,比亚迪的产业布局太“窄了”。</p>\n<p>很多人喜欢将比亚迪和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>放在一起比较,同样是新能源企业,相比于特斯拉星辰大海般的布局,比亚迪就显得有些“小气”了。</p>\n<p>目前,中国市值最大的车企比亚迪市值约为0.88万亿,而刚刚破万亿美元大关的特斯拉足足有6.65万亿市值,这之间差了大约8倍。其实在技术层面上,比亚迪和特斯拉的差距并不大,对于新能源汽车最为核心的电池、电机、电控系统,比亚迪能够独立掌握,并且具备相当的竞争力,差距主要体现在布局和营销方面。相比于特斯拉将自己定位成科技公司,软硬件全面发展、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>生态快速突进的发展思路;比亚迪只将自己简单定位成一家卖车和卖电池的硬件提供商,显然,比亚迪的业务虽然精,但是太窄,一旦受到类似于上游原材料价格上涨之类的事件,有没有其他业务作为弥补,比亚迪的利润下降是必然的。相比于特斯拉这样综合性的商业帝国,比亚迪就像一家布置精当的商店。</p>\n<p><b>2、</b><b><b>深度要,广度也要</b></b></p>\n<p>正如前文所言,比亚迪增收不增利,除了原料涨价的外因,内因就是自己的业务“广度不够”,在应对外部打击的时候缺乏“战略纵深”。因此在专心钻研技术深度的同时,比亚迪也在积极地谋求业务拓展。</p>\n<p>10月25日,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01211\">比亚迪股份</a>有限公司发布公告,香港联交所同意公司分拆所属子公司比亚迪半导体股份有限公司至深交所创业板上市,并同意豁免公司向公司股东提供保证配额。</p>\n<p>对于分拆一事,比亚迪方面表示,分拆不会丧失比亚迪对于比亚迪半导体的控制权,而且能够从根本上提高比亚迪半导体公司智力水平和财务透明度,实现与比亚迪的业务分离。</p>\n<p>此次上市,计划募资27亿元,通过自建产线、产能扩张的方式保障晶圆的稳定供应,最终实现功率半导体和智能控制 IC 关键生产步骤的自主可控。换句话说,比亚迪的半导体业务自04年潜心研究、蛰伏至今,成为了国内唯一拥有完整产业链的车规级IGBT龙头企业,根据Omdia统计,比亚迪半导体在中国新能源乘用车电机驱动控制器用IGBT模块全球厂商中排名第二,市场占有率达到19%。孩子确实长大了,比亚迪这时“放虎归山”,允许其“脱母上市”,松开半导体业务的手脚,让自己的半导体子公司帮助自己开辟芯片业务,打响自己进行横向业务拓展的重要一枪,同时也能帮助中国企业在芯片研发赛道上再添一员虎将。</p>\n<p>除了半导体业务,比亚迪在手机部件生产和光伏储能领域均有拓展。以光伏储能为例,比亚迪拥有硅片加工,电池片、光伏系统等全产业链布局,比亚迪<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000591\">太阳能</a>长年位于彭博新能源财经所认可的全球一级组件制造商榜单之中。</p>\n<p>通过现有的业务拓展可以发现,比亚迪不光要“有广度”,更要“有深度”的“有广度”。</p>\n<p>根据历年财报的数据显示,从13年到21年,比亚迪研发投入金费总计85.56亿元,每年占营业收入比例4.37%-5.46%,且这一数据每年都在呈递增态势,比亚迪对待技术研发是认真的。比亚迪的创始人王传福就是工程师出身,可能是受到工程师思维的影响,比亚迪的业务拓展总是脚踏实地地技术先行而非概念先行,对待拓展的业务,也要像对待主业一般争取最大的技术优势,去分行业的蛋糕,而不是浅尝辄止,给目标行业的大佬“打个下手”就可以了。因为只有在技术上有底气,比亚迪才能真正地培养起“抗揍的副业”,才能建造真正牢固的“蓄水池”。</p>\n<p>笔者认为,这种脚踏实地的发展思路虽然挣不了快钱,但是对于企业的长远生存是很有利的,这一点应当值得国内那些不重视技术研发、只知道炒概念股的所谓“科技企业”好好反思并且借鉴一下。</p>\n<p>在过去,汽车还是并不保值的“大宗商品”,而资本更加青睐房子;三十年河东,三十年河西,在政府的强力管控下,我国的房地产在逐渐降温并回到它应有的历史位置上;下一个腾飞的产业很可能就是新能源汽车领域,随着各种“造车新势力”的涌入,要比新势力们更“懂车”的比亚迪就站在即将来到的“风口上”,能不能真正成长起来,在国际上和特斯拉掰掰手腕,时间会告诉我们答案的。</p>","source":"lsy1584618343416","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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