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百亿身价经验
05-16
$蔚来(NIO)$
有一说一,虽然我支持蔚来,但不看好乐道,完全是错误的决定。和主品牌价格差距不大,22万不低,为买这车,22万捞个买不起蔚来的名声何必? 我早说过,换电是加分项,不是必选项。 如果一定要做家庭版,只需要出两款车,即ec7,es7 家庭版。800v+薄电池+冰箱彩电折叠床+性价比用料,售价看齐es6,即不会拉低主品牌,也是真蔚来(用户买了不磕碜,因为家庭版是另一个赛道),我立马又支持一辆,即便我没蔚来,我也完全可以买家庭版。 高端纯电难卖是假设,李想说的,也是我说的,虽然mega没卖好,但这句话我依然赞同。 理想大卖足以说明,家庭用户不差钱,前提家用性价比要高。 如果es7ec7出家庭版,是直接和理想问界竞争的,而且有绝对的优势,虽然纯电续航不如增程的满油满电,但纯电续航吊打增程纯电,加上换电站,是有绝对实力和增程车竞争的。这是一个绝好的机会。用户一旦接受纯电,这个赛道,只有蔚来一家,护城河足够深。
百亿身价经验
05-06
$蔚来(NIO)$
这种人就是来搞笑的,跌了他猜的准(猜对的算,猜错的不算),涨了又买过了。就别人都没买,就他会买。别人说话,他赢,别人不说话,他也赢。。薛定谔的赢
百亿身价经验
05-02
$蔚来(NIO)$
3块多都不买的就不用炒股了
百亿身价经验
04-29
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
这狗东西真是造孽,骗了一次又骗一次。
百亿身价经验
04-25
$理想汽车(LI)$
跌起来就没有底,奉劝各位早点跑路。蔚小理三家,前景堪忧的就是理,别看现在卖的火。
百亿身价经验
03-05
$蔚来(NIO)$
你是真能亏,就服你,亏而不倒气死某些人
百亿身价经验
02-29
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
gdx,还没倒闭啊
百亿身价经验
02-23
$蔚来(NIO)$
表演家又开始整花活了,一天天的不讲几遍都误以为别人不知道他多懂似的
百亿身价经验
01-12
$蔚来(NIO)$
有人
@Ohwgo
让我算一算换电成本谁来承担,我作为局外人,没有数据,不可胡乱猜测,不像有人,只下结论不讲逻辑。 但既然聊到这里了,我简单扯一点,换电到底划不划算。 先说结论:换电,极大的提升电池利用率,最大化利用电池便是最好的成本。 1. 蔚来全系双电机,但70/75度的磷酸铁锂占比高达95%,而同类型电车,最小的是特斯拉的78度三元锂,其他都在80+,甚至高达100+,双电机没有例外,都是三元锂。成本高磷酸铁锂一大截,循环次数低磷酸铁锂一大截。 2.蔚来的电池,基本都可以保证最大化利用,直到报废。只要没报废,就可以继续参与循环。同时,蔚来的电池除了担当用户车辆行驶的职责,还担当着储能的任务。v2g是最好的方式。 所以,我觉得,不了解不要随便下结论,下了结论也请把逻辑讲通,别丢一句结论显得自己多懂。
百亿身价经验
2023-12-08
$蔚来(NIO)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
蔚来和理想吵起来了,怪谁? 坚决站蔚来,因为什么?因为李想屡次三番恶心人。 第一次,全新es6发布当晚,就开始作妖,整个理想都在那暗讽es6 第二次,蔚来二季度财报,李想教李斌做CEO 第三次,蔚来三季度财报,李想再次把蔚来拿出来鞭尸。况且,用的数据严重双标。 马麟一句话,惹得微博老总下场站台,这种既当裁判又当运动员的行为极其令人作呕。理想全系水军挂蔚来,吵架战斗力可谓是空前强大。 总之,惹谁不要惹理想。 但是奉劝李想,自己怎么吹都可以,不要屡次挂别人吹自己。
百亿身价经验
2023-12-08
$蔚来(NIO)$
虽然亏损,小鹏靠低价走量,理想么噶回炉,真正高端纯电立住的,只有蔚来!
百亿身价经验
2023-12-07
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
这货彻底完了,没有任何机会。老骗子本有机会自救,20年上市之后,老老实实造车或许还能挽回一点尊严。 现在彻底归零,补能,智驾,一样没有。奉劝后来人千万不要沾这货。骗了我几万块,不多,贾骗子的棺材本了
百亿身价经验
2023-11-28
$蔚来(NIO)$
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
说以下观点 1. 一边口口声声换电要完,因为800v,一边因为充电不行,买油箱支持油箱。甚至老板也支持油箱,未来几年都转油箱。 这不是矛盾的吗?到底是800v行还是加油的行?如果800v行,那加油的完全没必要。如果加油的大行其道,说明800v就是一个饼,是一个很难实现的饼。 用一个饼来干2000多座真实存在的换电站,是不是吹的太早了。 要我说,如果这个饼可以,第一个死的是油箱,然后才可能是换电。 2. 看仔细了,我说的是可能,因为你们对换电的理解是极其片面的。换电的核心是什么?很多人是认为补能,这也是这些人拿来和加油比,和800v搞对立的一个主要原因。如果单说补能,可以这么说,换电和家充都香,长途也的确没太大必要。 但是,换电的核心是车电分离。 首先,因为车电分离,蔚来90%的用户选择70度磷酸铁锂,如果没有换电,就蔚来及其他双电机高性能版车型,平均电池容量应该不低于90度三元锂。 什么概念?两者电池成本差距应该在4万左右。 其次,因为车电分离,蔚来的每一块电池都能用到报废(不浪费),极大的提高电池利用率。相反,没有车电分离,你买个100度大电池,不开个100万公里都亏。车电寿命不等价,总有一方在另一方先报废。 3.正常来说,4年前你们就预测蔚来要完,4年间也在不断预测,4年后可能还要预测。 蔚来不完,我就和你没完。 说句难听的,蹬鼻子上脸了,你们的信誉已经败光,觉得还有资格说吗?
百亿身价经验
2023-11-21
蔚来这不还是可以的吗?这么大压力下还没挂。倒闭了嘛?没倒闭你们急啥?又不是没打过脸,不长记性的
@新能源Bot:【新能源周榜】2023年第47周新势力车企销量(11.13-11.19)
百亿身价经验
2023-11-21
再说一遍,但凡把充电和换电做对立比较的,要么不懂,要么装不懂//
@SharkFin
:快充是电动车趋势,根本不需要换电,这是一个功能机时代换电池的落后模式。蔚来不改模式,会是一个无底洞
@349f6622:快充是电动车趋势,根本不需要换电,这是一个功能机时代换电池的落后模式。蔚来不改模式,会是一个无底洞
百亿身价经验
2023-11-02
网络CEO意淫而已
网传蔚来将裁员10%到20%,官方称未收到相关信息
百亿身价经验
2023-08-24
反应过来,这种一看就不是蔚来做的。这么大企业用这些lj刷单号?嫌别人没有把柄? 前一段时间集中投放捧蔚来杀特斯拉的小作文,现在又集中出现杀某想的小作文。然后某想CEO下场传播。这招捧杀属实厉害啊。 某想为什么要这么做?因为蔚来不能起来,起来就是它的毁灭,纯电更是完蛋。中国汽车高端市场只能有一家,蔚来不挂,它永远没戏//
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$蔚来(NIO)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
最近,有一些号在说理想销量下滑。评论区一致指向蔚来。 大家以为是不是蔚来?
@百亿身价经验:
$蔚来(NIO)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
最近,有一些号在说理想销量下滑。评论区一致指向蔚来。 大家以为是不是蔚来?
百亿身价经验
2023-08-23
$蔚来(NIO)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
最近,有一些号在说理想销量下滑。评论区一致指向蔚来。 大家以为是不是蔚来?
百亿身价经验
2023-08-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
哎,这货运气似乎不太好
百亿身价经验
2023-07-03
$蔚来(NIO)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
公关是真强,一周过去了,愣是没新闻👍🏻
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