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NiuNiu
11-08
$TSLA 20241108 300.0 CALL$
[财迷]
NiuNiu
01-23
概念炒作?还是炒作概念?
NiuNiu
01-09
博弈的心态不可取呀
NiuNiu
01-09
继续加油争取拿大奖,加油啦[财迷]
NiuNiu
01-02
有些牌子车加块电池就叫新能源[汗颜]
NiuNiu
2023-12-04
一直涨一直涨[微笑][开心][财迷]
NiuNiu
2022-10-18
费尽心思的蹭特斯拉[汗颜]
李斌:特斯拉如果不改进产品和服务,很快会被市场淘汰
NiuNiu
2021-12-17
$老虎证券(TIGR)$
可以抄底了吧
NiuNiu
2021-08-04
$蓝帽子(BHAT)$
哪位大神的10万股不计成本的砸哇[财迷]
NiuNiu
2021-06-11
$英特尔(INTC)$
号召力够不够?
NiuNiu
2021-06-09
$羚羊控股(AEHL)$
开空仓有肉吃?
NiuNiu
2021-05-18
$波音(BA)$
目前价位准备开仓了
NiuNiu
2021-05-06
$蓝帽子(BHAT)$
这票老板真会玩儿,再降降,再横横,等着满仓干
NiuNiu
2021-05-05
$研控科技(RCON)$
估计高开低走,先行获利了结
NiuNiu
2021-04-22
$联络智能(LLIT)$
横着走吧,熬得住寂寞[财迷]
NiuNiu
2021-01-21
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
还得维持箱体一个月
NiuNiu
2020-07-30
$理想汽车(LI)$
看这定价,又是5股10股啦[捂脸]
NiuNiu
2020-06-16
$蓝帽子(BHAT)$
等周年庆[黑眼圈]
NiuNiu
2020-06-15
$燃石医学(BNR)$
熬得住寂寞才行
NiuNiu
2020-06-12
$燃石医学(BNR)$
同学们稍安勿躁,中签结果还得过一会儿出来。不过看最后的16.5的定价,说明申购非常踊跃,小散估计很难中签,个人估摸着申购1000的话运气好能中个百八十股就不错了,别抱太大希望[捂脸]
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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.</b></blockquote><p><b>进军德国是为啥?</b></p><p>李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO.SI\">蔚来</a>创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。</p><p>但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。</p><p>更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。</p><p>德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。</p><p>他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc4fa0f56e1ee29ca48e71b67053eb2a\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"294\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>但蔚来并非没有优势。</p><p>蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。</p><p>另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶的订阅服务等等。</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac7ae364de234c74b096be6fc6095b6\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"339\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>斌言斌语评价特斯拉</b></p><p>那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。</p><p>相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。</p><p>一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。</p><p>但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。</p><p>“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0509bfcbd5db9b248afe138f4cb1dade\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"547\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:</p><p>我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。</p><p>“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”</p><blockquote>Besides, I’m the better dancer…</blockquote><p>李斌还表示,虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司,原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源,但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利,蔚来会好得多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aceed36c874ae58db7152ad88da2d12c\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"292\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国,李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。</p><p>但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》,不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入,蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。</p><p>李斌还谈到了更多的目标,比如到2030年,能够跻身全球车企TOP5.</p><p>但这种计划还需要借助子品牌,蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS(阿尔卑斯)的进展,这是一个传说中的子品牌:产品价格更低,两年内上市。</p><p>蔚来要以更低的价格,更大规模的量产销售,赢取更多市场。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ddb0d659263553f4055045a4ef04bfa\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月,蔚来新车交付量为10878台,第三季度新车交付量为31607台,同比增长29.3%,创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前,蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。</p><p>而作为对比,特斯拉同样在9月,仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度,特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车,交付了超过34.3万辆车。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1611665793971","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.进军德国是为啥?李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。蔚来创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。但蔚来并非没有优势。蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有智能驾驶的订阅服务等等。李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。斌言斌语评价特斯拉那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”Besides, I’m the better 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.</b></blockquote><p><b>进军德国是为啥?</b></p><p>李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO.SI\">蔚来</a>创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。</p><p>但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。</p><p>更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。</p><p>德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。</p><p>他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc4fa0f56e1ee29ca48e71b67053eb2a\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"294\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>但蔚来并非没有优势。</p><p>蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。</p><p>另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶的订阅服务等等。</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac7ae364de234c74b096be6fc6095b6\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"339\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>斌言斌语评价特斯拉</b></p><p>那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。</p><p>相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。</p><p>一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。</p><p>但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。</p><p>“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0509bfcbd5db9b248afe138f4cb1dade\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"547\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:</p><p>我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。</p><p>“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”</p><blockquote>Besides, I’m the better dancer…</blockquote><p>李斌还表示,虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司,原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源,但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利,蔚来会好得多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aceed36c874ae58db7152ad88da2d12c\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"292\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国,李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。</p><p>但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》,不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入,蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。</p><p>李斌还谈到了更多的目标,比如到2030年,能够跻身全球车企TOP5.</p><p>但这种计划还需要借助子品牌,蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS(阿尔卑斯)的进展,这是一个传说中的子品牌:产品价格更低,两年内上市。</p><p>蔚来要以更低的价格,更大规模的量产销售,赢取更多市场。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ddb0d659263553f4055045a4ef04bfa\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月,蔚来新车交付量为10878台,第三季度新车交付量为31607台,同比增长29.3%,创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前,蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。</p><p>而作为对比,特斯拉同样在9月,仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度,特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车,交付了超过34.3万辆车。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1611665793971","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.进军德国是为啥?李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。蔚来创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。但蔚来并非没有优势。蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有智能驾驶的订阅服务等等。李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。斌言斌语评价特斯拉那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”Besides, I’m the better dancer…李斌还表示,虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司,原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源,但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利,蔚来会好得多。至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国,李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》,不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入,蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。李斌还谈到了更多的目标,比如到2030年,能够跻身全球车企TOP5.但这种计划还需要借助子品牌,蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS(阿尔卑斯)的进展,这是一个传说中的子品牌:产品价格更低,两年内上市。蔚来要以更低的价格,更大规模的量产销售,赢取更多市场。目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月,蔚来新车交付量为10878台,第三季度新车交付量为31607台,同比增长29.3%,创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前,蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。而作为对比,特斯拉同样在9月,仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度,特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车,交付了超过34.3万辆车。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1831,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":376150602,"gmtCreate":1619099141906,"gmtModify":1619099141906,"author":{"id":"3506744294010976","authorId":"3506744294010976","name":"NiuNiu","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64bacd58e98be9968946a79f710fd9cd","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3506744294010976","authorIdStr":"3506744294010976"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLIT\">$联络智能(LLIT)$</a>横着走吧,熬得住寂寞[财迷] ","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLIT\">$联络智能(LLIT)$</a>横着走吧,熬得住寂寞[财迷] ","text":"$联络智能(LLIT)$横着走吧,熬得住寂寞[财迷]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/376150602","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1663,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":923876655,"gmtCreate":1585833084877,"gmtModify":1704359176808,"author":{"id":"3506744294010976","authorId":"3506744294010976","name":"NiuNiu","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64bacd58e98be9968946a79f710fd9cd","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3506744294010976","authorIdStr":"3506744294010976"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LK\">$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$</a>盘前换手这么高了,看来有人想抄底,🐂B[汗颜] ","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LK\">$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$</a>盘前换手这么高了,看来有人想抄底,🐂B[汗颜] ","text":"$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$盘前换手这么高了,看来有人想抄底,🐂B[汗颜]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/923876655","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1037,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":929602201,"gmtCreate":1585314228603,"gmtModify":1704357832582,"author":{"id":"3506744294010976","authorId":"3506744294010976","name":"NiuNiu","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64bacd58e98be9968946a79f710fd9cd","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3506744294010976","authorIdStr":"3506744294010976"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MTC\">$美美证券(MTC)$</a>今天继续收涨,猜一下","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MTC\">$美美证券(MTC)$</a>今天继续收涨,猜一下","text":"$美美证券(MTC)$今天继续收涨,猜一下","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/929602201","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1222,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":929329902,"gmtCreate":1585231844306,"gmtModify":1704357502289,"author":{"id":"3506744294010976","authorId":"3506744294010976","name":"NiuNiu","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64bacd58e98be9968946a79f710fd9cd","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3506744294010976","authorIdStr":"3506744294010976"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MTC\">$美美证券(MTC)$</a>一枪,结束了[汗颜] ","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MTC\">$美美证券(MTC)$</a>一枪,结束了[汗颜] ","text":"$美美证券(MTC)$一枪,结束了[汗颜]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/929329902","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":505,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}