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为了买米
25分钟前
$小米集团-W(01810)$
又出去一批短线,可以继续涨了
为了买米
10:46
$小米集团-W(01810)$
跌倒27满仓干
为了买米
11-13
$小米集团-W(01810)$
昨天收盘和今天开盘加仓加对了
为了买米
10-28
$小米集团-W(01810)$
啥情况,正常发布会第二天开始跌,现在提前就开始跌啦?
为了买米
10-15
$小米集团-W(01810)$
今天收盘能到22.5吗
为了买米
10-14
$小米集团-W(01810)$
调整到22吧
为了买米
10-09
$小米集团-W(01810)$
跌一跌更健康
为了买米
10-09
$恒生指数(HSI)$
调整才是正常的,最好到18000
为了买米
10-07
$小米集团-W(01810)$
第一阶段看到30,继续持仓!
为了买米
09-30
$上证指数(000001.SH)$
年底4165点26年9月14600点
为了买米
09-27
$小米集团-W(01810)$
持仓过节
为了买米
06-04
$小米集团-W(01810)$
今天回购吗?赶紧跌破17,我也买点!
为了买米
04-26
$小米集团-W(01810)$
今年上30吧
为了买米
04-26
$小米集团-W(01810)$
希望这次站稳17
为了买米
04-24
$茶百道(02555)$
跌到2块吗
为了买米
04-23
$茶百道(02555)$
上次打新的蓝月亮记忆犹新
为了买米
04-12
你就看其他车厂后续跟不跟进这个设计
@Hold到老:
$小米集团-W(01810)$
余承东说的很有道理。燃油车用手机支架,就是因为燃油车没有导航,或者车自带导航不好用,才会用手机支架手机导航。但是小米也把手机支架官方主推作为卖点...
为了买米
03-26
反正也拿了三年多了,半仓赌一把,跌了就慢慢补,涨就慢慢出,留底仓!
@马虎恶魔号:
$小米集团-W(01810)$
我虽然是忠实的小米的用户,也是小米一的首发用户,也是小米IPO的用户,但是我想说的是,如果你只是为了做小米股票去追求短时间的增长的话,现在其实可以撤一些了。因为原因是没有人愿意去赌,28号的价钱,因为他关注点太高了,你觉得关注多的是多头吗?其实不是,而是那些四处找毛病的空头。空头肯定会找出一些问题来!但是小米在国内其实跟斯拉有些像,他很少去起诉一些大v,也许有人说我这纯属扯淡军儿的这个事儿,不就起诉了吗?但是你发现了吗?你如果说正常的去批评他们产品,他们官方是不管的,就连Jd就包括你去骂奶茶东,他也不去管你,但是你要骂他媳妇,你试试!所以只是你打开的方式不对,但是现在的股价是在一个整固区间,里边是一个高位的整固区间,实际的话可以获利终结了!因为你接下来就面对50%,但是你赢面的50%,其实现在看来并不大,原因就是发布会砸盘,其实是小米股票的一贯作风,大家可以往前翻翻,大概率是发布会开了就砸,很少有发布会开了涨的,我记得上次涨还是k60! 但是我依然相信 与支持被套了5,6年的小米 永远相信美好的事情即将发生 永远年轻,永远热泪盈眶 去吧!1810创建出那个属于你的王朝! 小米v5 小米v5 小米v5
为了买米
03-21
$小米集团-W(01810)$
结合雷军分析特斯拉22.3W售价,又表明全方位超越特斯拉,小米汽车标准版预计在19.99W到22.3W之间,盲猜标准版定价21.99W!
为了买米
03-14
$小米集团-W(01810)$
低配21.9W高配32.8W
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/III\">信息服务</a>有限公司和珠海小米通讯技术有限公司在内的多家小米旗下关联公司,不再担任这些公司的法定代表人、执行董事或董事长等职务。</p>\n<p>对于雷军的这一系列动作,小米表示这属于正常变更。不过,有不少分析人士表示,雷军此举是其专注造车的重要信号。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/742d5e913f3814fae029e1c79cabcc0f\" tg-width=\"446\" tg-height=\"746\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>关于造车,雷军曾信誓旦旦地表示,「这是小米历史上最重大的决定」、「这将是我人生中最后一次重大创业项目,愿意押上人生积累的所有战绩和声誉」……</p>\n<p>这样看来,雷军是打算带领小米一把梭哈,让自己从「雷布斯」一跃变成为「雷斯克」。然而,从现在来看,雷军这次的赢面好像没有那么大。</p>\n<p><b>01、</b><b>造车,危险游戏?</b></p>\n<p>今年3月,小米正式进军<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>电动车领域。自此之后,小米的造车进展十分迅速。</p>\n<p>今年7月,雷军在<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WB\">微博</a>发布招聘广告,表示首批将会招募500名自动驾驶技术人员。9月1日,小米汽车有限公司正式注册,注册资本为100亿元。</p>\n<p>10月中旬,在小米产投Demo Day上,小米投资的100多家产业链公司集中亮相,其中,与汽车产业相关的企业就超过40家。</p>\n<p>11月27日,小米与北京亦庄签订合作,将在北京经开区建设小米汽总部基地、销售总部和研发总部,并将建设年产量 30 万辆的整车工厂,其中一期、二期产能分别为15万辆。</p>\n<p>就连雷军都曾公开表示,目前小米造车的各项进展,比他的预期要快。</p>\n<p>然而,对小米而言,其造车所面临的问题其实更多。</p>\n<p>对于造车业务,小米的说法是,此次造车是想完成自己的生态链体系。直白点说,意思就是造车乃是小米整个生态圈未来发展的助推器。</p>\n<p>这个说法是不是似曾相识?是的,在雷布斯之前,臭名昭著的贾布斯不止一次表达类似观点。但后来我们看到的,是立志于生态化反的他,因为造车,将整个生态都画反了。</p>\n<p>当然,现在的小米生态与当年乐视所谓的生态不可同日而语,但其拳头产品主要还是智能手机,而这显然撑不起整个生态的未来。</p>\n<p>于是,在小米的AIoT战略中,智能汽车被寄予厚望。</p>\n<p>而且,随着<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>、蔚小理等先手玩家将整个市场培育成熟,小米在2024年可以凭借后发优势强势入场收割,一切都看上去很美。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a53a7b66eac1b2a48e79cd7c3424cd99\" tg-width=\"444\" tg-height=\"375\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>不过,对雷军和小米而言,当理想照进现实的时候,一切并没有想象的那么美好。</p>\n<p>小米造车,外有竞争对手的压力,内有供应链能力的不足。</p>\n<p>要知道,当下,几乎所有核心互联网力量都在造车,或提供智能车相关的服务。</p>\n<p>除了三家新势力,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DIDI\">滴滴</a>也有各自的造车计划。华为尽管多次对外声明不造车,但是其已经研发出一套智能驾驶系统,并在北汽、长安等多个品牌的车型上布局应用。</p>\n<p>还有「大魔王」<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>,早在2014年就启动了泰坦计划,尽管目前还没有正式的产品亮相,但以苹果的习惯,产品只要上市,那整个行业必然天翻地覆。</p>\n<p>此前有消息称,苹果将在2025年推出完全自主的汽车。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MS\">摩根士丹利</a>就认为,苹果进入自动驾驶领域,可能会给其他大部分智能电动车产生负面影响。</p>\n<p>小米2024年螳螂捕蝉,苹果2025年黄雀在后?</p>\n<p>现在的小米,已经被各方造车势力所包围,甚至很多造车势力已经把小米树立为假想敌、潜在竞争对手。在聚光灯下发展,显然不是一个好消息。</p>\n<p>而另一个制约因素,便是小米的供应链整合能力堪忧。因为供应链能力不足,小米手机多次因为备货不足而被消费者怒斥为「耍猴」。</p>\n<p>然而,相比手机,造车的工序更加复杂,供应链能力要求更高。有媒体曾做过统计,苹果的供应商数量大概在700-800家之间,其中核心供应商在200家左右。而传统燃油车零部件的数量达到3万左右,其量级是智能手机的百倍,汽车供应链复杂度远比手机高得多。</p>\n<p>所以,在宣布造车前,小米系资本已布局智能汽车领域。据不完全统计,截至2021年9月底,小米在智能汽车领域投资布局的企业合计62家,其中智能驾驶17家,智能电动13家,智能座舱6家,有22家企业是2021年新增投资。</p>\n<p>但这对于一台量产车而言,显然还不够。所以很多人不禁疑问,小米在2024年,真的能交付15万台新车吗?这次难道不会耍猴吗?</p>\n<p><b>02、</b><b>手机,钱袋危矣?</b></p>\n<p>对于雷军而言,当下迫切要解决的问题,恐怕还是钱袋子的问题。</p>\n<p>此前,雷军给小米的2024年定了两个KPI:小米手机全球第一;小米汽车2024年量产。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/364092ce1cae375e72620744094011e8\" tg-width=\"513\" tg-height=\"384\" 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