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hhh你能
11-13
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
兄弟们,很想看一晚上400,tsla的市值如此之大,如果一夜上400,需要多少资金买入,一定是大电影
hhh你能
11-13
先管好自家消防安全吧
宁德时代董事长曾毓群:马斯克不懂电池
hhh你能
11-06
哈拉少这次不哈哈了[开心]
特朗普向支持者发表讲话,哈里斯取消演讲计划
hhh你能
11-06
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
一个半小时后才是真正的狂欢开始,拭目以待,看看华尔街怎样的操作
hhh你能
11-06
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
特靠谱上任 继续看空癌股 继续2600保卫战 哈哈哈
hhh你能
11-05
$A50指数主连 2411(CNmain)$
癌股看空没悬念
hhh你能
10-29
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
3次熔断 这是故意的吧
hhh你能
10-29
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
今晚似乎有多空大战,看看谁是胜者[抠鼻]
hhh你能
10-29
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
今晚会不会68.9[冷漠] [冷漠]
hhh你能
10-29
你上周买这周卖不也OK么
@马虎恶魔号:
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
我是身经百战见的多了,什么样的仙股没有见过
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
不知道比dj t高到哪里去了 我都能高点逃顶 今天我想跟大家聊一聊dj t 这种仙股 完全就是情绪之上,你跑不出来,你就在里面了,我虽然知道他能暴富,但是我不去选择原因就是[风险高于收入] 首先他现在非常不符合市场的一点就是他完全是情绪推动超高的换手,超高的突然间的交易量。完全是因为有人在左手买右手卖 但是如果说出现情绪化的下跌的话就会有更多的人逢高去把自己的货抛出去,就会产生踩踏事件。 因为很多的论坛里面的人并不是在海外,我们是要睡觉的。你不知道什么时候就一条阴线砸了下去,引发了踩踏。他只需要跌40%,他就会把之前上涨的100,200%整个去抹平。 但是马虎恶魔号又是一个成熟的交易者。虽然我不去交易,但是正因为我做过很多的仙股 比如说。100个点收益的
$禧图集团(MGIH)$
比如说200个点收益的
$中阳金融集团(TOP)$
比如说。170收益
$开心汽车(KXIN)$
这些都是我成功逃顶的。但是我依然遇到过root 等套了70个以上的 所以我希望大家一定要衡量收益和风险,如果风险大于收益,宁可不要这个收益。 因为很多的做线股的人都会说我就挣10个点我就撤,我告诉你今天挣10个,明天你就想挣20个也许
hhh你能
06-19
来点实际的 会不会降息
霍华德·马克斯:过度炒作人工智能,对英伟达期望过高,未达预期时会导致幻灭和失望
hhh你能
06-18
看盘前这个熊样 该跌的还是跌
hhh你能
05-30
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
这个是抖音对贾跃亭的举报,大家都可以去啊,让骗子不要再招摇撞骗。
hhh你能
05-30
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
贾狗呢
hhh你能
05-29
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
hhh你能
05-29
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
没有贾跃亭的ff 一定是大展宏图的 有贾跃亭的ff 是阿其那 赛斯黑
hhh你能
05-29
在数钱呢
@财富涨:
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
说能到10,能到100的人去哪儿了en
hhh你能
05-29
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
最好的结局就是破产 退市
hhh你能
05-29
假药停呢 继续吹牛逼呀
法拉第未来盘前暴跌,公司承认可能永远无法实现或维持盈利
hhh你能
05-14
拿完赔偿继续回来上班 这也太happy了
市场消息:特斯拉重新雇佣了上个月被解雇的部分超级充电站员工
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Lightning皮卡。</p><p>特斯拉也与宁德时代达成了类似的技术许可协议,借此在内华达州生产电池。据知情人士透露,该电池生产项目预计将在2025年启动,这一时间表此前未被报道过。</p><p><strong>马斯克不懂电池</strong></p><p>曾毓群上周四在宁德时代总部接受路透社采访时称,特斯拉与宁德时代达成的许可协议,能够让其CEO马斯克将资本投资集中在人工智能(AI)和自动驾驶汽车上。宁德时代是特斯拉上海工厂的主要供应商,后者是特斯拉最大、最赚钱的工厂。</p><p>今年4月,曾毓群在马斯克访问北京时与他会面,并经常与他交谈。曾毓群称,他赞同马斯克对于AI自动驾驶技术潜力的看法。特斯拉的自动驾驶技术完全依赖于摄像头和AI,目标是打造可以大规模销售,大众负担得起的自动驾驶汽车。与之相反的是,特斯拉竞争对手则主要在开发更昂贵汽车,配备多层冗余技术以确保安全,并将其用于运营出租车或配送服务。</p><p><strong>“他全力押注自动驾驶战略,我认为这个方向很好。”曾毓群表示。</strong></p><p>不过,曾毓群也透露,自己已直接告诉马斯克,<strong>他对圆柱形电池(即4680电池)的押注“会失败,永远不会成功”。</strong></p><p>“我们有过一次非常激烈的辩论,我向他展示了(为何圆柱形电池不行),”曾毓群说,“他当时沉默了。他不知道如何制造电池。这是电化学的问题。他擅长的是芯片、软件、硬件和机械方面的东西。”</p><p><strong>过度承诺</strong></p><p>曾毓群表示,他还曾问马斯克,为何在特斯拉新车或新技术上设定不切实际的时间表。马斯克告诉曾毓群,他想激励特斯拉员工,让他们集中精力,任何超过两年的时间框架都可能是“无限期”。</p><p>“他的问题是承诺过多,我和他谈过,”曾毓群表示,“也许某些东西需要五年时间,但他说两年。我当然问过他为什么,他告诉我他想激励员工。”</p><p>马斯克上个月承诺,明年将在美国得州和加州部署全自动驾驶版本的特斯拉Model 3和Model Y,并在2026年推出一款没有方向盘和踏板的双座Cybercab自动驾驶出租车。这一承诺引发了投资者的怀疑,因为过去十年他们一直在听马斯克大谈自动驾驶汽车。</p><p><strong>曾毓群没有提及马斯克的任何具体未兑现承诺</strong>,但他说:“他可能自己认为需要五年,但嘴上会说两年。<strong>如果你相信了他的话,你就会有大麻烦。他的方向是对的。</strong>”</p><p>截至发稿,马斯克和特斯拉尚未立即就此置评。(作者/箫雨)</p><p>更多一手新闻,欢迎下载凤凰新闻客户端订阅凤凰网科技。想看深度报道,请微信搜索“凤凰网科技”。</p></body></html>","source":"fenghuang_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>宁德时代董事长曾毓群:马斯克不懂电池</title>\n<style 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Capital)联合创始人霍华德·马克斯与中金公司首席经济学家彭文生在一场直播对话中,分享了投资哲学和市场洞察。<br/><br/>投资作业本课代表整理了霍华德·马克斯发表的观点,要点如下:<br/><br/>1、我们目前看到的市场表现出一种非常生猛的野性(人工智能AI),这种野性占据了上风,使市场脱离了经济基本面。<br/><br/>2、<strong>如果情绪占主导,且现实世界出现积极变化,而积极变化又没有达投资者预期,股市甚至有可能下跌。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>以人工智能为例,如果过度炒作,对英伟达期望过高,未达预期就可能导致幻灭和失望。</strong><br/><br/>3、市场过热和衰退造成了周期性波动。目前,<strong>我没有看到(美股)市场过热。<br/><br/></strong>4、未来两三年内,如果美国出现经济衰退,很可能是由于地缘政治和其他外部因素,而非内部问题。<strong><br/><br/>5、我并不希望在座的任何人认为,我认为人工智能是泡沫。我看到了很多泡沫,例如美国当年的“漂亮五十”、1999年的科技股泡沫、2006年的房产泡沫等。<br/><br/>这些泡沫都有一个特点,即它们都是昙花一现的现象。泡沫吸引了人们对新事物的过度关注和预期,当预期落空时,泡沫破裂。<br/><br/></strong>6、<strong>不要试图预测市场涨跌,而要理解事物的本质。</strong>理解之后,市场涨跌应了然于心。此外,<strong>不要自作聪明,也要把控住自己的情绪。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">以下是投资作业本课代表(微信ID:touzizuoyeben)整理的二人对话的精华内容,分享给大家:</p><h2 id=\"id_2994492582\">人工智能火爆托举美股</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:尽管美联储尚未降息,您认为股市为何依然坚挺?</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">霍华德·马克斯:我们注意到,<strong>有些股票表现非常出色,它们支撑了整个股市和市场的预期。今年表现最突出的是英伟达。</strong><br/><br/>目前,人工智能AI是一个新兴领域,其芯片市场的前景看起来很光明。这一趋势支撑了英伟达等公司的股价。我们还看到,<strong>美国经济相比其他经济体更为强劲,吸引了资金流入。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">此外,我之前提到,<strong>投资者天生具有乐观精神,这种乐观情绪能够持续很长时间</strong>。如果市场能预见到2022年底至2024年下半年的降息,那么市场可能不会如此坚挺。<strong>这也反映出市场的不可预测性</strong>。<br/><br/>投资者必须接受并意识到这一点。市场不是遵循物理规律的精密机器,并不是出现了A就必然会导致B,必然会导致C。市场的主体是人,而人的本性就是不可预测的。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>我们目前看到的市场表现出一种非常生猛的野性,这种野性占据了上风,使市场脱离了经济基本面。</strong></p><h2 id=\"id_4045666073\">若过度炒作AI,未达预期,股市可能下跌</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:<strong>可能的一个触动因素是人们对人工智能的普遍看好,英伟达的股价也因此飙升。</strong>但从业务角度分析,人工智能如何具体融入业务并带来利润,仍有许多未知数,<strong>人们对人工智能的感知和现实之间存在差距。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">霍华德·马克斯:您的观点非常精准。许多人认为现实世界的积极发展必然带来股市上涨,但他们忽略了人性和心理因素。<strong>如果情绪占主导,且现实世界出现积极变化,而积极变化又没有达投资者预期,股市甚至有可能下跌。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>以人工智能为例,如果过度炒作,对英伟达期望过高,未达预期就可能导致幻灭和失望。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>我并不希望在座的任何人认为,我认为人工智能是泡沫</strong>。我看到了很多泡沫,例如美国当年的“漂亮五十”、1999年的科技股泡沫、2006年的房产泡沫等。<br/><br/>这些泡沫都有一个特点,即它们都是昙花一现的现象。泡沫吸引了人们对新事物的过度关注和预期,当预期落空时,泡沫破裂。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">人工智能是一系列新事物中的最新成员。我们可以回顾1999年的TMT泡沫、科技股泡沫、电商泡沫等。互联网确实改变了世界,但这并不意味着互联网企业的股票都是好股票。</p><h2 id=\"id_2781294540\">目前没有看到美股市场过热</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:新冠疫情后,中国经济相对落后于美国和欧洲。美国经济表现世界一流,但您也提到了未来的风险。<strong>如果要指出一个最大的风险,您认为我们应该关注哪一个?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">霍华德·马克斯:我不是有资质的宏观经济学家。在我的书《周期》中,我探讨了周期的原因。市场过热和衰退造成了周期性波动。目前,<strong>我没有看到市场过热,</strong>美国资本市场的增速看起来合理。<br/><br/><strong>未来两三年内,如果出现经济衰退,很可能是由于地缘政治和其他外部因素,而非内部问题。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:我还记得,在新冠疫情之前,人们说美国经济正在经历历史上最长的衰退时期,即二战后最长的时期。新冠疫情随后爆发,所以我想问,我们现在是否回到了疫情前的过去状态?<br/><br/><strong>我们的增长不是很高,通胀也不是很强,但也不会带来衰退</strong>。我认为这个理论是有道理的,不知道您怎么看?<br/><br/>霍华德·马克斯:就像我说的,<strong>这是最长的十年复苏期,也是历史上最长的牛市,持续了十年。我觉得美联储在这方面做得不错。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">其实对于量化宽松和紧缩方面,美联储确实学到了一些经验教训。他们学会了如何使用这些工具,不仅仅是过去的利率调控,现在还使用量化方法进行调控。我认为这种说法是有道理的,是有可能的。</p><h2 id=\"id_1583725076\">未来十年通胀水平可能比疫情前更高</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:就像您说的那样,经济复苏是历史上最长也是最缓慢的。作为一个宏观经济学家,我想分享一下我在这方面的一个观察。<br/><br/>我认为通胀可能是一个驱动因素或触发因素,这可能与俄乌战争、供应方面的冲击以及中东的一些地缘政治事件关系不大。相反,可能是两个供给侧的结构性转变正在发生。<br/><br/>其中一个就是气候变化,我们知道所谓的绿色转型。例如,美国的制造业投资在过去30年达到了最高点。当然,这与绿色转型有关。所以在这方面已经出现了很多投资需求。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">另外,潜在的关税增加情况,以及全球贸易保护主义的抬头,这可能会增加经济参与者的成本负担。<br/><br/>还有一点,在美国,目前在本届政府的领导下,特别是由于新冠疫情期间所采取的政策,我们看到了最富有的人和最贫穷的人之间的收入差距正在缩小。如果我们把这两个因素结合起来看,是否意味着通胀平均下来会比我们以前习惯的2.5%更高?</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>霍华德·马克斯:我认为整个世界经历了一个非常不同寻常的低通胀时期</strong>。您可能还记得,在2010年代,我们当时预期通胀会更高,因为失业率非常低。根据菲利普斯曲线,通胀应该是更高的,但并没有发生。<br/><br/>您提到过的绿色转型、全球化的下降趋势以及赤字支出,现在都被各国政府所接受。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>我觉得在未来十年可能通胀的平均水平会比新冠疫情之前要更高。</strong></p><h2 id=\"id_860896657\">不要识图预测市场涨跌,而应理解事物本质</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">彭文生:您对当前市场的投资者有什么宝贵建议?</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">霍华德·马克斯:我本来是都想好了,结果您又加了一个当前市场,我现在就又不会说了。<br/><br/><strong>我的建议是不变的</strong>,<strong>不要试图预测市场涨跌,而要理解事物的本质。</strong>理解之后,市场涨跌应了然于心。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>不要预测入市和退出时机,因为这非常困难。</strong>你必须要以稳妥的方式入局,预期要合理。<br/><br/><strong>此外就是不要自作聪明。还有是要把控住自己的情绪。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>不要因为恐慌而抛售,也不要因为一时上头就疯狂入局,</strong>要有投资素养,手要稳,情绪要控制住,<strong>而且要有长期的合理的预期。</strong>成功的投资者需要具备这些素质。</p></body></html>","source":"wallstreetcn_hot_news","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" 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