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虎渣渣
2022-02-24
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
吃相太难看 特斯拉因为外部环境涨不上去,为了快速短期获利 就继续往下砸反复割韭菜
虎渣渣
2022-03-11
$爱奇艺(IQ)$
相信爱奇艺的Q4财报会有明显改善
虎渣渣
2021-12-03
$滴滴(DIDI)$
目前转香港上市确实是滴滴能做的最好选择了。
虎渣渣
2021-12-17
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
特斯拉今天比预计跌得更狠,明天会不会略微回调?
虎渣渣
2023-01-06
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
虎渣渣
2022-04-22
$知乎(ZH)$
如果退市 知乎的美股可以换成港股吗?
虎渣渣
2023-02-14
$九洲大药房(CJJD)$
看不懂了,为什么能涨成这样?
虎渣渣
2022-03-11
$爱奇艺(IQ)$
要不要抄底
虎渣渣
2021-12-17
$英伟达(NVDA)$
英伟达这个价是否安全,可以买入了嘛
虎渣渣
2021-11-19
$Sono Group N.V.(SEV)$
暴涨一天就大跌,接下来会是什么走向?
虎渣渣
2022-09-26
$DiDi Global Inc.(DIDIY)$
滴滴怎么了?
虎渣渣
2022-04-18
$爱奇艺(IQ)$
看好爱奇艺 当然 这不是高科技 但很多人喜欢看 抛开政治因素 这股票没问题
虎渣渣
2022-12-16
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
这是怎么了?一天一个看空小作文
虎渣渣
2022-05-20
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
老马 是否有点坐不住了
虎渣渣
2022-01-06
$微软(MSFT)$
来微软避险
虎渣渣
2021-12-28
$滴滴(DIDI)$
滴滴的股价已经严重背离价值了。怎么办?如果香港上市成功,涨。如果不成功,会退市对吗?涨。但目前这是怎么肥事,跌跌不休。。。滴滴要倒了吗?
虎渣渣
2023-12-14
$东方甄选(01797)$
管理层不稳
虎渣渣
2023-08-15
$九洲大药房(CJJD)$
这一堆托儿吧
虎渣渣
2023-04-20
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
我怎么感觉老贾命不该绝的样子
虎渣渣
2023-03-29
一个四川人,带着千万资产来宁夏种树治理生态,结果被断水到树要枯死。可悲可恨
中国神华透露:涉万亩林场水源纠纷煤矿属兄弟公司,国家能源集团正核实情况
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八年画饼,终见真章不过,尽管贾跃亭一直活跃在线上,包括旗下的乐视公司也一直在立“欠债还钱”的人设,但到底FF能不能把车造出来,外界一直都不看好,甚至将贾跃亭造车视为“PPT造车”的代表。外界并不看好贾跃亭,说到底还是跟资金有关。造车8年,FF曾不止一次陷入资金链断裂、破产等传闻中。2017年1月的美国拉斯维加斯CES展上,贾跃亭曾表示将在2个月后发售首批300辆FF91梦想合伙人版本。但同年7月,贾跃亭搭上前往美国的飞机后便一去不回,同时由于资金断裂,FF加州汉福德工厂的建设被迫搁浅。此后,FF陆续拿下包括来自恒大集团、Birch Lake Fund 、游戏公司第九城市的多笔融资,2021年年初,FF以SPAC的方式借壳登陆纳斯达克市场,成功融资10亿美元,据不完全统计,上市之后,FF拿下的融资金额估计在20亿美元以上。但20亿美元却还是不够“烧”,据公司2022年三季报显示,公司的账面现金仅剩3000多万美元。这或许也是为什么CEO陈雪峰在官宣“量产”时提到了“在资金都到账的情况下(才能量产)”,因为FF刚获得 1.35 亿美元(约超9亿元人民币)的融资,目前FF已拿到了第一笔5000万美元的资金,能不能量产,就看钱能不能都到账了。而且,FF不仅资金链一直在危险边缘徘徊,管理层也在不断轮换,包括贾跃亭自己,也曾在管理层里上演“宫斗大戏”。去年4月,FF董事会发布了一份文件,称贾跃亭已被解除执行官职务,但仅不到半年,贾跃亭就率FF合伙人公司成功重组上市公司董事会,再次杀回FF管理层。贾总造车不行,但宫斗能力绝对是跟甄嬛学的。此外,FF的CEO也多次换人,极擅长资本运作的贾跃亭外甥王佳伟也在2022年4月的“宫斗”中一同离职。长达8年的时间里,FF一直都在“画饼”,但投资人却始终愿意“吃饼”。难怪有网友表示,如果贾跃亭愿意回国卖课,自己一定为此买单,比起创业能力,贾跃亭的“画饼能力”显然更值得学习。3 四月量产,前景几何曾有网友表示,贾跃亭卖的不是车,而是梦想,虽然是一句玩笑话,但也能看出贾跃亭为什么能让外界苦等FF91八年之久。一方面,虽然FF91尚未量产,但其产品力却没有停留在8年前。回顾FF91六年前的首发,其不少造型设计放在今天来看,也并不显得与时代脱节,比如无边界的格栅前脸、贯穿式尾灯等设计,也是如今不少运动型轿车的配置。此外,FF近日宣布,在PT Gen 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91Futurist,在资金都到账的情况下,<b>车辆将于4月初下线,并于4月底前交付。</b></p><p>不过,离4月的交付日还有一个多月,谁也不能保证贾跃亭不会再次“跳票”,毕竟在此之前,贾跃亭以及FF前任全球CEO毕福康,曾分别宣布FF91在2018、2020以及2022年量产,结果车还是没见到踪影。</p><p>况且这一次,法拉第方面还很鸡贼的加了个“资金都到账”的定语,万一再度跳票,也有充分的理由开脱。</p><p>不过,大家对贾跃亭的宽容度已经是非常高了,毕竟一个车企造车八年却始终无法量产,但仍然能一笔又一笔拉来投资,贾跃亭和法拉第未来,到底是给投资人们施了什么“魔法”?</p><p><b>1 人没回国,车已先至</b></p><p>就在CEO陈雪峰官宣将在今年4月量产交付FF91的前一天,贾跃亭已经迫不及待地为新车造势,其在社交媒体上发文称,首辆最新的FF 91 Futurist准量产车已经运抵上海,将进行本地化测试验证,并表示这是FF产品进入中国市场的正式开端。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b97a3ef37c80984d0b0d85f30f660ccf\" tg-width=\"625\" tg-height=\"591\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>贾跃亭果然是擅长营销的人才,即便只是测试车进入中国,但FF官方微博仍直接为此做了一条视频宣传片,并在视频结尾大大的写上了“你好中国”,差点都要忘记FF原本就应该是一辆“中国车”。</p><p>但有一说一,FF如此重视中国市场,也并非没有原因,纵观全球,到底还是中国市场最香,无论是产业成熟度还是市场接受程度都要高于欧美地区。</p><p>就在春节前夕,FF表示已与中国黄冈市达成了不具约束力的合作框架协议,根据双方签署的框架协议,<b>未来的FF中国总部将迁至黄冈市,同时保留其位于美国加州洛杉矶的全球总部。</b></p><p>外界更称FF的这一波操作是帮助贾跃亭“曲线回国”,拿下黄冈市的合作项目后,FF将获得包括政策、资金、区位、产业链等资源的协作,对于未来FF在国内量产以及销售都大有裨益。</p><p>而拉上区域城市为自己站台的操作,贾跃亭也并非第一次尝试,早在2017年和2021年,FF就曾在广州南沙以及珠海市成立过公司,彼时就有猜测称FF的生产基地可能将落户在此两个城市,只是最后均不了了之。</p><p>值得一提的是,在FF单方面公布与黄冈市达成合作后,外界却发现相关部门的回应并不热烈,甚至可以说并不知详情。从这一点来推测,黄冈市政府或许基于盘活当地汽车产业而选择与FF合作,但相较而言,FF寻找中国项目落地的心情或许会更加迫切。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ac86049a94b0a578f91342e5602964f7\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>换一个角度来看,贾跃亭也不得不承认,海外市场不好做,还是中国市场香。从市场规模来看,2022年我国新能源汽车的销量为688.7万辆,仍保持近100% 的同比增长,并连续8年保持全球第一。</p><p>虽然考虑市场密度以及补贴退坡的影响,今年新能源车市场的增长速度或许会放缓,但纵观全球,也再难找到比中国更具有活力的市场了。</p><p>而另一方面,贾跃亭虽然长期深陷债务违约的负面新闻,但有讨论度也意味着有流量,光从这一点来看,贾跃亭个人的影响力还是能为FF“国产化”带来不少热度。因此,不管要兜多大一个弯,贾跃亭还是要“回国”的。</p><p><b>2 八年画饼,终见真章</b></p><p>不过,尽管贾跃亭一直活跃在线上,包括旗下的乐视公司也一直在立“欠债还钱”的人设,但到底FF能不能把车造出来,外界一直都不看好,甚至将贾跃亭造车视为“PPT造车”的代表。</p><p>外界并不看好贾跃亭,说到底还是跟资金有关。造车8年,FF曾不止一次陷入资金链断裂、破产等传闻中。</p><p>2017年1月的美国拉斯维加斯CES展上,贾跃亭曾表示将在2个月后发售首批300辆FF91梦想合伙人版本。但同年7月,贾跃亭搭上前往美国的飞机后便一去不回,同时由于资金断裂,FF加州汉福德工厂的建设被迫搁浅。</p><p>此后,FF陆续拿下包括来自恒大集团、Birch Lake Fund 、游戏公司第九城市的多笔融资,2021年年初,FF以SPAC的方式借壳登陆纳斯达克市场,成功融资10亿美元,据不完全统计,上市之后,FF拿下的融资金额估计在20亿美元以上。</p><p>但20亿美元却还是不够“烧”,<b>据公司2022年三季报显示,公司的账面现金仅剩3000多万美元。</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4bad281450533ccb3ea638ce8a88118e\" tg-width=\"871\" tg-height=\"540\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>这或许也是为什么CEO陈雪峰在官宣“量产”时提到了“在资金都到账的情况下(才能量产)”,因为FF刚获得 1.35 亿美元(约超9亿元人民币)的融资,目前FF已拿到了第一笔5000万美元的资金,能不能量产,就看钱能不能都到账了。</p><p>而且,FF不仅资金链一直在危险边缘徘徊,管理层也在不断轮换,包括贾跃亭自己,也曾在管理层里上演“宫斗大戏”。</p><p>去年4月,FF董事会发布了一份文件,称贾跃亭已被解除执行官职务,但仅不到半年,贾跃亭就率FF合伙人公司成功重组上市公司董事会,再次杀回FF管理层。贾总造车不行,但宫斗能力绝对是跟甄嬛学的。</p><p>此外,FF的CEO也多次换人,极擅长资本运作的贾跃亭外甥王佳伟也在2022年4月的“宫斗”中一同离职。</p><p>长达8年的时间里,FF一直都在“画饼”,但投资人却始终愿意“吃饼”。难怪有网友表示,如果贾跃亭愿意回国卖课,自己一定为此买单,比起创业能力,贾跃亭的“画饼能力”显然更值得学习。</p><p><b>3 四月量产,前景几何</b></p><p>曾有网友表示,贾跃亭卖的不是车,而是梦想,虽然是一句玩笑话,但也能看出贾跃亭为什么能让外界苦等FF91八年之久。</p><p>一方面,虽然FF91尚未量产,但其产品力却没有停留在8年前。回顾FF91六年前的首发,其不少造型设计放在今天来看,也并不显得与时代脱节,比如无边界的格栅前脸、贯穿式尾灯等设计,也是如今不少运动型轿车的配置。</p><p>此外,FF近日宣布,在PT Gen 1.0升级至PT Gen 2.0已在FF91 的最终测试和验证方面取得进展,<b>升级内容包括动力总成、电池、充电、底盘、内饰等13项关键升级,以及从计算、传感、通信、用户交互到I.A.I最新技术的13项关键升级。</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a983c280f59e015fa40f907c1a2a3af\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"720\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>另一方面,贾跃亭谈下来的几笔融资,其实并非单纯的“索要”关系,而是“互相需要”。比如当初跟恒大谈融资,站在新能源车风口,恒大确实急需一个靠谱的合作伙伴,而贾跃亭恰好补上了造车能力这一块缺口,只是谁能想到恒大比贾跃亭先倒下了呢?</p><p>最后,贾跃亭自身极擅长营销,从FF91的定位来看,高达200万元的车价,某种程度也避开了市面上大部分新能源汽车的市场定位,如果说理想是针对“奶爸”打造的品牌及产品,那么FF的定位也非常聚焦,或许能从中打开一个差异化市场也说不定,而资本看中的,或许也是这份“独特性”。</p><p>目前来看,假如资金到位,这一次FF91量产,或许真的有机会落地。但量产以后的仗,或许才会更难打,从量产到建厂,再到中国本土化,跟特斯拉不同,FF的造车能力尚未被验证,光靠营销,恐怕很难赢得消费者的青睐。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1577693836437","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>贾跃亭八年画饼,法拉第未来下月交车?</title>\n<style 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Futurist准量产车已经运抵上海,将进行本地化测试验证,并表示这是FF产品进入中国市场的正式开端。贾跃亭果然是擅长营销的人才,即便只是测试车进入中国,但FF官方微博仍直接为此做了一条视频宣传片,并在视频结尾大大的写上了“你好中国”,差点都要忘记FF原本就应该是一辆“中国车”。但有一说一,FF如此重视中国市场,也并非没有原因,纵观全球,到底还是中国市场最香,无论是产业成熟度还是市场接受程度都要高于欧美地区。就在春节前夕,FF表示已与中国黄冈市达成了不具约束力的合作框架协议,根据双方签署的框架协议,未来的FF中国总部将迁至黄冈市,同时保留其位于美国加州洛杉矶的全球总部。外界更称FF的这一波操作是帮助贾跃亭“曲线回国”,拿下黄冈市的合作项目后,FF将获得包括政策、资金、区位、产业链等资源的协作,对于未来FF在国内量产以及销售都大有裨益。而拉上区域城市为自己站台的操作,贾跃亭也并非第一次尝试,早在2017年和2021年,FF就曾在广州南沙以及珠海市成立过公司,彼时就有猜测称FF的生产基地可能将落户在此两个城市,只是最后均不了了之。值得一提的是,在FF单方面公布与黄冈市达成合作后,外界却发现相关部门的回应并不热烈,甚至可以说并不知详情。从这一点来推测,黄冈市政府或许基于盘活当地汽车产业而选择与FF合作,但相较而言,FF寻找中国项目落地的心情或许会更加迫切。换一个角度来看,贾跃亭也不得不承认,海外市场不好做,还是中国市场香。从市场规模来看,2022年我国新能源汽车的销量为688.7万辆,仍保持近100% 的同比增长,并连续8年保持全球第一。虽然考虑市场密度以及补贴退坡的影响,今年新能源车市场的增长速度或许会放缓,但纵观全球,也再难找到比中国更具有活力的市场了。而另一方面,贾跃亭虽然长期深陷债务违约的负面新闻,但有讨论度也意味着有流量,光从这一点来看,贾跃亭个人的影响力还是能为FF“国产化”带来不少热度。因此,不管要兜多大一个弯,贾跃亭还是要“回国”的。2 八年画饼,终见真章不过,尽管贾跃亭一直活跃在线上,包括旗下的乐视公司也一直在立“欠债还钱”的人设,但到底FF能不能把车造出来,外界一直都不看好,甚至将贾跃亭造车视为“PPT造车”的代表。外界并不看好贾跃亭,说到底还是跟资金有关。造车8年,FF曾不止一次陷入资金链断裂、破产等传闻中。2017年1月的美国拉斯维加斯CES展上,贾跃亭曾表示将在2个月后发售首批300辆FF91梦想合伙人版本。但同年7月,贾跃亭搭上前往美国的飞机后便一去不回,同时由于资金断裂,FF加州汉福德工厂的建设被迫搁浅。此后,FF陆续拿下包括来自恒大集团、Birch Lake Fund 、游戏公司第九城市的多笔融资,2021年年初,FF以SPAC的方式借壳登陆纳斯达克市场,成功融资10亿美元,据不完全统计,上市之后,FF拿下的融资金额估计在20亿美元以上。但20亿美元却还是不够“烧”,据公司2022年三季报显示,公司的账面现金仅剩3000多万美元。这或许也是为什么CEO陈雪峰在官宣“量产”时提到了“在资金都到账的情况下(才能量产)”,因为FF刚获得 1.35 亿美元(约超9亿元人民币)的融资,目前FF已拿到了第一笔5000万美元的资金,能不能量产,就看钱能不能都到账了。而且,FF不仅资金链一直在危险边缘徘徊,管理层也在不断轮换,包括贾跃亭自己,也曾在管理层里上演“宫斗大戏”。去年4月,FF董事会发布了一份文件,称贾跃亭已被解除执行官职务,但仅不到半年,贾跃亭就率FF合伙人公司成功重组上市公司董事会,再次杀回FF管理层。贾总造车不行,但宫斗能力绝对是跟甄嬛学的。此外,FF的CEO也多次换人,极擅长资本运作的贾跃亭外甥王佳伟也在2022年4月的“宫斗”中一同离职。长达8年的时间里,FF一直都在“画饼”,但投资人却始终愿意“吃饼”。难怪有网友表示,如果贾跃亭愿意回国卖课,自己一定为此买单,比起创业能力,贾跃亭的“画饼能力”显然更值得学习。3 四月量产,前景几何曾有网友表示,贾跃亭卖的不是车,而是梦想,虽然是一句玩笑话,但也能看出贾跃亭为什么能让外界苦等FF91八年之久。一方面,虽然FF91尚未量产,但其产品力却没有停留在8年前。回顾FF91六年前的首发,其不少造型设计放在今天来看,也并不显得与时代脱节,比如无边界的格栅前脸、贯穿式尾灯等设计,也是如今不少运动型轿车的配置。此外,FF近日宣布,在PT Gen 1.0升级至PT Gen 2.0已在FF91 的最终测试和验证方面取得进展,升级内容包括动力总成、电池、充电、底盘、内饰等13项关键升级,以及从计算、传感、通信、用户交互到I.A.I最新技术的13项关键升级。另一方面,贾跃亭谈下来的几笔融资,其实并非单纯的“索要”关系,而是“互相需要”。比如当初跟恒大谈融资,站在新能源车风口,恒大确实急需一个靠谱的合作伙伴,而贾跃亭恰好补上了造车能力这一块缺口,只是谁能想到恒大比贾跃亭先倒下了呢?最后,贾跃亭自身极擅长营销,从FF91的定位来看,高达200万元的车价,某种程度也避开了市面上大部分新能源汽车的市场定位,如果说理想是针对“奶爸”打造的品牌及产品,那么FF的定位也非常聚焦,或许能从中打开一个差异化市场也说不定,而资本看中的,或许也是这份“独特性”。目前来看,假如资金到位,这一次FF91量产,或许真的有机会落地。但量产以后的仗,或许才会更难打,从量产到建厂,再到中国本土化,跟特斯拉不同,FF的造车能力尚未被验证,光靠营销,恐怕很难赢得消费者的青睐。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1055,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":625895350,"gmtCreate":1676349176270,"gmtModify":1676349177345,"author":{"id":"4088292861070430","authorId":"4088292861070430","name":"虎渣渣","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de2478c72e597ba1ca7cc3bc0c4e5430","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088292861070430","authorIdStr":"4088292861070430"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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Beyond。这家公司其实早就应该破产了,但是由于新冠期间资金的充裕(政府和私人),所以一直苟活着。看了华尔街日报的报道,有3个原因导致公司决定申请破产:1,再也没法融资;2,供应商不接受欠款;3,销售数据下降。这件事情就暗示着,随着<b>当前美国利率高企,私人融资环境紧张,全球消费都在降级,那么会有更多公司进入破产。电动车行业百花齐放不是常态,早就应该要有破产。</b></p><p><b>特斯拉选择在这个节骨眼上来打价格战,就像利用大盘下跌的时候,去做空有问题的股票。</b></p><p>对于绝大部分电动车企来说,现在正处于烧钱上产量的阶段,当然还有一些新的造车公司钱花了很多车还没造出来。但是特斯拉的产量已经上去,毛利也高,现在不打价格战难道等竞争对手都羽翼丰满再来打吗?</p><p>对于特斯拉来说,毛利率会下来,产量会上去,现在去就纠结“卖1辆车赚2块钱或者卖2辆车赚3块钱”哪个估值高没有太多意义,当下这个口,多头没有信心,空头信心爆棚,媒体又喜欢写特斯拉负面新闻,散户会更加信心不足。特斯拉采取的策略是自损100伤敌10000,现在大家的目光只集中在自损100上面,特斯拉短期股价必定难看。</p><p>昨晚港股市场中概电动先跌,可能跌幅还不够。特斯拉这个降价措施,没有任何一家电动车扛得住,不再是交付量问题,而是生存问题。跟着特斯拉一起降价,自己就是赔本生意,不跟着特斯拉一起降价,那交付量要暴跌。别说卖情怀了,经济利益面前,大家都会选择质优价廉的产品。除了电动车厂商,传统油车厂商也会如坐针毡。</p><p>当年<a 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