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2021-12-10

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Is it elon selling his shares?

2021-12-10

Not tonight

@Jaycob:$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$925 Tonight!

2021-12-02

$Grab Holdings(GRAB)$Its going downnnnn

2021-12-02

Hard to tell

@Amy1224:$NQ100指数主连 2112(NQmain)$ 晚上大概率反弹

2021-12-02

Yes agree

Tesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding

2021-12-01

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Gg

2021-11-30

Yes some groups asking us to buy

@Ken5033:$AeroClean Technologies, LLC(AERC)$I think is people manipulate now

2021-11-30

$AeroClean Technologies, LLC(AERC)$Did anyone encounter some group asking you tobuy?

2021-11-30

$E-mini Nasdaq 100 - main 2112(NQmain)$ What is going on man

2021-11-17

$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$Goodbye

2021-11-16

$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$Valuation does not make sense..will come down soon..

2021-11-11

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Last chance to buy before it rises!

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Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price</p>\n<p>Gary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FFND\">$(FFND)$</a> in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.</p>\n<p>Tesla Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.</p>\n<p>Black, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.</p>\n<p>By traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&amp;P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.</p>\n<p>Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a> provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddcec3e4358d6028a37f6bfce1643c77\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>Amazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&amp;P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.</p>\n<p>Now look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a855237f2518a693194b6c65bde4e54a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>That's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.</p>\n<p>The bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.</p>\n<p>Even now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.</p>\n<p>The Tesla 'controversy'</p>\n<p>Black said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"</p>\n<p>In the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TAM\">$(TAM)$</a> because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.</p>\n<p>All the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.</p>\n<p>Tesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.</p>\n<p>Black's case for Tesla's value today</p>\n<p>Based on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.</p>\n<p>Those estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.</p>\n<p>Black's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.</p>\n<p>\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.</p>\n<p>These <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> postings include data backing Black's estimates:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbcb28726727d46f32b8be0fa1436929\" tg-width=\"1401\" tg-height=\"605\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Going further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.</p>\n<p>The expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.</p>\n<p>Deeper long-term thesis</p>\n<p>Stepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.</p>\n<p>While the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.</p>\n<p>For safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a> recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk</p>\n<p>Finally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.</p>\n<p>Black cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.</p>\n<p>One thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.</p>\n<p>Black cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.</p>\n<p>\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.</p>\n<p>A new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.</p>\n<p>Black expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-12-02 10:17</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price</p>\n<p>Gary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FFND\">$(FFND)$</a> in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.</p>\n<p>Tesla Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.</p>\n<p>Black, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.</p>\n<p>By traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&amp;P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.</p>\n<p>Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a> provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddcec3e4358d6028a37f6bfce1643c77\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>Amazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&amp;P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.</p>\n<p>Now look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a855237f2518a693194b6c65bde4e54a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>That's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.</p>\n<p>The bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.</p>\n<p>Even now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.</p>\n<p>The Tesla 'controversy'</p>\n<p>Black said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"</p>\n<p>In the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TAM\">$(TAM)$</a> because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.</p>\n<p>All the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.</p>\n<p>Tesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.</p>\n<p>Black's case for Tesla's value today</p>\n<p>Based on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.</p>\n<p>Those estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.</p>\n<p>Black's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.</p>\n<p>\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.</p>\n<p>These <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> postings include data backing Black's estimates:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbcb28726727d46f32b8be0fa1436929\" tg-width=\"1401\" tg-height=\"605\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Going further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.</p>\n<p>The expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.</p>\n<p>Deeper long-term thesis</p>\n<p>Stepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.</p>\n<p>While the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.</p>\n<p>For safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a> recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk</p>\n<p>Finally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.</p>\n<p>Black cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.</p>\n<p>One thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.</p>\n<p>Black cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.</p>\n<p>\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.</p>\n<p>A new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.</p>\n<p>Black expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GM":"通用汽车","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4507":"流媒体概念","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4555":"新能源车","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4566":"资本集团","FFND":"The Future Fund Active ETF","BK4524":"宅经济概念","BK4535":"淡马锡持仓","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4538":"云计算","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4503":"景林资产持仓","BK4122":"互联网与直销零售","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","AMZN":"亚马逊","BK4099":"汽车制造商","CAGR":"California Grapes International, Inc.","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2188556434","content_text":"Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price\nGary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF $(FFND)$ in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.\nTesla Inc. $(TSLA)$ shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.\nBlack, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.\nBy traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.\nAmazon.com Inc. $(AMZN)$ provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:\nFactSet\nAmazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.\nNow look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:\nFactSet\nThat's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.\nThe bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.\nEven now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.\nThe Tesla 'controversy'\nBlack said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"\nIn the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market $(TAM)$ because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.\nAll the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.\nTesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.\nBlack's case for Tesla's value today\nBased on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.\nThose estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.\nBlack's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.\n\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.\nThese Twitter postings include data backing Black's estimates:\n\nGoing further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.\nThe expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.\nDeeper long-term thesis\nStepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.\nWhile the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.\nFor safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s $(GM)$ recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk\nFinally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.\nBlack cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.\nOne thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.\nBlack cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.\n\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.\nA new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.\nBlack expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":732,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609240564,"gmtCreate":1638288098285,"gmtModify":1638288098366,"author":{"id":"3582014239473752","authorId":"3582014239473752","name":"Boblet","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f847d2abbb3cd3ce65035023448d72f","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582014239473752","authorIdStr":"3582014239473752"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Gg","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Gg","text":"$Tesla 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agree","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/603275732","repostId":"2188556434","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2188556434","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1638411420,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2188556434?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-02 10:17","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2188556434","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mea","content":"<p>Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price</p>\n<p>Gary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FFND\">$(FFND)$</a> in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.</p>\n<p>Tesla Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.</p>\n<p>Black, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.</p>\n<p>By traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&amp;P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.</p>\n<p>Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a> provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddcec3e4358d6028a37f6bfce1643c77\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>Amazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&amp;P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.</p>\n<p>Now look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a855237f2518a693194b6c65bde4e54a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>That's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.</p>\n<p>The bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.</p>\n<p>Even now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.</p>\n<p>The Tesla 'controversy'</p>\n<p>Black said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"</p>\n<p>In the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TAM\">$(TAM)$</a> because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.</p>\n<p>All the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.</p>\n<p>Tesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.</p>\n<p>Black's case for Tesla's value today</p>\n<p>Based on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.</p>\n<p>Those estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.</p>\n<p>Black's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.</p>\n<p>\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.</p>\n<p>These <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> postings include data backing Black's estimates:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbcb28726727d46f32b8be0fa1436929\" tg-width=\"1401\" tg-height=\"605\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Going further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.</p>\n<p>The expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.</p>\n<p>Deeper long-term thesis</p>\n<p>Stepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.</p>\n<p>While the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.</p>\n<p>For safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a> recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk</p>\n<p>Finally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.</p>\n<p>Black cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.</p>\n<p>One thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.</p>\n<p>Black cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.</p>\n<p>\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.</p>\n<p>A new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.</p>\n<p>Black expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla's stock is still cheap, says manager of new ETF who made Musk's EV company its No. 1 holding\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-12-02 10:17</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price</p>\n<p>Gary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FFND\">$(FFND)$</a> in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.</p>\n<p>Tesla Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.</p>\n<p>Black, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.</p>\n<p>By traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&amp;P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.</p>\n<p>Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a> provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddcec3e4358d6028a37f6bfce1643c77\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>Amazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&amp;P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.</p>\n<p>Now look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a855237f2518a693194b6c65bde4e54a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"609\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>FactSet</span></p>\n<p>That's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.</p>\n<p>The bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.</p>\n<p>Even now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.</p>\n<p>The Tesla 'controversy'</p>\n<p>Black said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"</p>\n<p>In the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TAM\">$(TAM)$</a> because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.</p>\n<p>All the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.</p>\n<p>Tesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.</p>\n<p>Black's case for Tesla's value today</p>\n<p>Based on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.</p>\n<p>Those estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.</p>\n<p>Black's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.</p>\n<p>\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.</p>\n<p>These <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> postings include data backing Black's estimates:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbcb28726727d46f32b8be0fa1436929\" tg-width=\"1401\" tg-height=\"605\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Going further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.</p>\n<p>The expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.</p>\n<p>Deeper long-term thesis</p>\n<p>Stepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.</p>\n<p>While the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.</p>\n<p>For safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a> recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk</p>\n<p>Finally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.</p>\n<p>Black cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.</p>\n<p>One thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.</p>\n<p>Black cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.</p>\n<p>\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.</p>\n<p>A new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.</p>\n<p>Black expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GM":"通用汽车","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4507":"流媒体概念","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4555":"新能源车","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4566":"资本集团","FFND":"The Future Fund Active ETF","BK4524":"宅经济概念","BK4535":"淡马锡持仓","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4538":"云计算","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4503":"景林资产持仓","BK4122":"互联网与直销零售","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","AMZN":"亚马逊","BK4099":"汽车制造商","CAGR":"California Grapes International, Inc.","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2188556434","content_text":"Gary Black of the Future Fund Active ETF expects Tesla to maintain its market share, which could mean a surge in profits and share price\nGary Black and business partner David Kalis established the technology-oriented Future Fund Active ETF $(FFND)$ in August, and made Tesla its top holding, representing more than 10% of the portfolio's assets.\nTesla Inc. $(TSLA)$ shares had already surged 15-fold in the previous two years, giving the electric-vehicle maker a market capitalization that would eventually eclipse all other car companies combined.\nBlack, a former investments chief at Goldman Sachs and CEO of what is now Janus Henderson mutual funds, said in an interview Nov. 30 that he still thinks Tesla is a bargain for long-term investors.\nBy traditional measures, shares of Tesla appear to be very expensive. The stock closed at $1,145 on Nov. 30, and was up 62% for 2021, following a 743% increase during 2020. Tesla trades for 136 times the consensus 2022 earnings estimate of $8.43 a share among analysts polled by FactSet. In comparison, the price-to-earnings ratio of the benchmark S&P 500 Index, of which Tesla is a member, is 20.8.\nAmazon.com Inc. $(AMZN)$ provides an instructive example of a stock that many investors had steered clear of for decades because of its high P/E valuation. Here's a chart showing the internet retailer's forward P/E ratio (based on rolling 12-month consensus earnings estimates) over the past 20 years:\nFactSet\nAmazon's average forward P/E during that time is 99.5. The S&P 500 is also included on the chart, with what appears to be a flat line at the bottom. The scale reflects Amazon's valuation spikes when analysts expected the company to show low profits as it plowed its cash flow into business expansion, including industry-leading delivery times for its ecommerce platform and Amazon Web Services.\nNow look at 20-year total returns for Amazon and the index:\nFactSet\nThat's a 30,881% return for Amazon. You can see plenty of dips or weak periods in the chart, when investors had to be patient, such as the period between the peak late in September 2018 and April 2020, when the stock finally pushed ahead.\nThe bottom line is that continued expansion at a rapid pace can help a company \"grow into its valuation,\" to use Black's words.\nEven now, Amazon trades at nearly 69 times the consensus forward earnings estimate. It's still a high P/E and maybe some of the same naysayers from five, 10, 15 or 20 years ago continue to believe it's too late to jump on the bandwagon.\nThe Tesla 'controversy'\nBlack said he likes stocks with \"controversy.\"\nIn the case of Tesla, he said the debate is whether the company can maintain its electric-vehicle market share while global EV adoption grows. He expects Tesla to increase its total addressable market $(TAM)$ because of new products, including the Cybertruck, expected in late 2022, and a new Tesla compact model expected in 2023, along with increased production in existing factories and the opening of new factories in Texas and Germany.\nAll the numbers that follow are for battery electric cars, or BEVs. That means plug-in hybrids are excluded.\nTesla sold an estimated 386,000 electric cars during the first half of 2021, according to EV-Volumes.com, which estimates sales of BEVs will total 4 million for all of 2021. If Tesla were to maintain the same pace of sales for the second half of 2021, its BEV market share for the year would be an estimated 19.3%.\nBlack's case for Tesla's value today\nBased on his own estimates, which incorporate third-quarter numbers provided to the Future Fund team by Bloomberg, EV-Volumes.com and other industry sources, Black expects the world BEV adoption rate to climb to 6% in 2021 from 3% in 2020, and continue rising to 30% by 2025. Meanwhile, he expects Tesla to hold a 21% market share.\nThose estimates point to a 56% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) for industry BEV sales, with a 55% CAGR for Tesla's sales. Black also estimates a 59% CAGR for Tesla's earnings per share through 2025.\nBlack's estimate for Tesla's market share is higher than EV-Volumes' numbers for the first half of 2021 indicate because of supply constraints.\n\"You will wait six months now if you order a new Tesla. When the new factories come online, they can gain more share,\" he said.\nThese Twitter postings include data backing Black's estimates:\n\nGoing further, Black estimates Tesla will earn $12 a share in 2022, which is well ahead of the consensus EPS estimate of $8.43. More controversy, but this underlines his investment thesis. He expects EPS to keep growing to $40 in 2025. Based on the closing price of $1,145 on Nov. 30, that would make for a P/E of 28.6 -- not very high for such a rapidly growing company.\nThe expectation of continued rapid growth for Tesla explains not only Black's enthusiasm for the stock but that of other money managers.\nDeeper long-term thesis\nStepping back from the numbers, Black listed what he called four \"ingredients\" for electric vehicles: battery range, performance, technology and safety.\nWhile the competition is catching up on battery range, he said that for performance and technology, Tesla is still ahead of the competition. He added that Tesla has, by far, the highest number of fast-charging stations available, and that drivers of competing EVs can buy low-cost adapters to use Tesla's stations and possibly feel envious of Tesla owners while waiting.\nFor safety, he said Tesla's track record is good, and cited General Motors Co.'s $(GM)$ recall of Chevrolet Bolts for battery fire risk, and GM's instructions to customers on how to limit that risk\nFinally, Black addressed concerns that increasing competition in the EV space would hurt Tesla's market share or make it less profitable.\nBlack cited Amazon as an example, citing skeptical investors years ago who had expected traditional competitors to take back market share from Amazon as they built-out their on online sales capabilities. We all know this didn't happen.\nOne thing we can all be sure of is that the world will continue to change rapidly for all vehicle manufacturers as buying habits change and governments continue to push for a rapid transition to EVs.\nBlack cited the Chinese government's cooperation with Tesla, which opened its factory in Shanghai in 2019, as a long-term boon not only for Tesla, but for China's entire EV market.\n\"You throw a catfish in with all the competitors to keep them aggressive,\" he said, referring to this New York Times article.\nA new catalyst for Tesla and its competitors in the U.S. market might be just around the corner. President Biden's \"Build Back Better\" spending package, if passed by Congress, is likely to lift the 200,000-vehicle limit on $7,500 per-vehicle tax credits for EVs. Tesla and GM have exceeded that limit.\nBlack expects the two new factories to double Tesla's production capacity. Near term, the completion of Tesla CEO Elon Musk's sale of 10% of his Tesla shares may relieve pressure on the share price. Black also expects bond-ratings agencies to raise Tesla's credit rating to investment-grade because of its strong cash flow and relatively low level of debt.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":732,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609240564,"gmtCreate":1638288098285,"gmtModify":1638288098366,"author":{"id":"3582014239473752","authorId":"3582014239473752","name":"Boblet","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f847d2abbb3cd3ce65035023448d72f","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582014239473752","authorIdStr":"3582014239473752"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Gg","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Gg","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Gg","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609240564","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":617,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609299225,"gmtCreate":1638284318008,"gmtModify":1638285204848,"author":{"id":"3582014239473752","authorId":"3582014239473752","name":"Boblet","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f847d2abbb3cd3ce65035023448d72f","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582014239473752","authorIdStr":"3582014239473752"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yes some groups asking us to buy","listText":"Yes some groups asking us to buy","text":"Yes some groups asking us to buy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609299225","repostId":"609290975","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":609290975,"gmtCreate":1638284253824,"gmtModify":1638284253824,"author":{"id":"4091078894139460","authorId":"4091078894139460","name":"Ken5033","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c98d95d570ae7ff242b9f4d0e95b4a04","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091078894139460","authorIdStr":"4091078894139460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AERC\">$AeroClean Technologies, LLC(AERC)$</a>I think is people manipulate now","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AERC\">$AeroClean Technologies, LLC(AERC)$</a>I think is people manipulate now","text":"$AeroClean Technologies, LLC(AERC)$I think is people manipulate now","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609290975","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":498,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":878324620,"gmtCreate":1637152702884,"gmtModify":1637152702884,"author":{"id":"3582014239473752","authorId":"3582014239473752","name":"Boblet","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f847d2abbb3cd3ce65035023448d72f","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582014239473752","authorIdStr":"3582014239473752"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$</a>Goodbye","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$</a>Goodbye","text":"$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$Goodbye","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/878324620","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":793,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}