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$Unity Software Inc.(U)$是时候卖掉了！

2021-07-14

我说呢

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2021-06-29

$Unity Software Inc.(U)$看好你哟，继续冲！

2021-06-25

快涨吧

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2021-06-24

[惊讶]

媒体：台积电明年代工价涨定了

2021-06-23

哎…

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2021-06-22

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2021-06-21

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2021-03-23

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2021-03-08

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2021-02-22

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3）。一些替代技术，诸如先进的3D封装，在提升芯片性能的同时，也可能削弱市场对3纳米、2纳米制程的需求。\n\n作为台积电EUV光刻机供应商，目前ASML已超越其大股东获得更高毛利率。\n\n此外，台积电近期资本支出激进，先是公开声明投资120亿美元在美国亚利桑那州设厂，后又有传言将在日本建设基地。疫情的反复、重复下单等风险，也成为威胁台积电业绩的潜在因素。\n摩根士丹利预计，以上种种将削减台积电2021年毛利率至50%以下，跌破投资者重要心理关口，也低于华尔街对其此后两年52%毛利率的共识。而这还是在预设芯片业处于上行周期的情况下，一旦产业进入下行周期，投资者可能不得不重估台积电长期营运成长预期。\n\n该行警告称，2022年后芯片业会进入一个下修周期，可能提前到今年四季度就会看到代工涨势告一段落。\n更长期看，摩根士丹利预计台积电收入仍将总体保持增长趋势，但不会像市场想象的那么乐观，目前看涨者对其五年内收入翻番的预期是“吹过头”了。\n该行直言，本身估值已经不便宜的情况下，再把钱投到台积电相当于拿了笔“死钱”。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":889,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}