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皇甫谦
2020-08-17
看衰特斯拉!服务跟不上,看不起渠道,那估计就快没落了!
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
皇甫谦
2020-08-10
初识蔚来是在朋友(蔚来铁杆粉丝)介绍的一次篮球车友会活动上开始的。那时就感觉这帮人怎么会因为一台车而如此痴迷,更何况我朋友咖位也不低,不像是那么容易被洗脑的人啊,于是乎决心好好了解一下。接下来就是看有关蔚来的研报、视频,中间还试开了朋友的老8,推背感给我留下了极深的印象!说来也巧,就在试驾的当天我就买入了蔚来的股票
$蔚来(NIO)$
,还记得是12块,没想到真给脸,当天晚上就涨了以后,这几天没看,都破14了,感觉还是很开心的,同时也跟激起了我研究的心思。
皇甫谦
2020-03-16
$道琼斯(.DJI)$
有谁知道DXD(两倍做空道指)为啥突然没有盘前交易了?!
皇甫谦
2020-10-21
好茶!
$蔚来(NIO)$
皇甫谦
2020-09-06
内蒙羊肉
呼伦贝尔羊肉家里涮羊肉,真好吃!时隔一年没回家了,吃点涮羊肉,饱饱的睡一下午。帮妈妈做做家务,这样的生活真好!
内蒙羊肉
皇甫谦
2020-08-12
$蔚来(NIO)$
其实也在预料之中,这就是典型的“利好出尽是利空”,季报远超预期,那么盘前大涨10%刚好price in info. 等李斌的电视电话会议结束后,发现并没有什么支撑预期的利好了,那么估计在开盘后瞬间回落,再加上多头平仓、踩踏、大盘的不争气,结果就是一下回到解放前。
皇甫谦
2020-03-13
$道琼斯(.DJI)$
据说川建国感染了?!脸色蜡黄啊…
皇甫谦
2020-11-13
$蔚来(NIO)$
没到这个时候我就想卖,管不住手怎么办
皇甫谦
2020-08-14
$蔚来(NIO)$
如果蔚来跌破20、30均线,即12.81的话,并且在下一个交易日有效确认的话,那么就妥妥要跳水了。因此,止损位设置在12~12.8,等待2~3天时间观察确认。【不动如山,动如雷震】
皇甫谦
2020-10-14
$蔚来(NIO)$
蝇头小利
皇甫谦
2020-08-20
我觉得蔚来真是有眼光,先不说定价怎么样(我是觉得略贵),关键是这种模式很牛逼,未来别的电动车如果没有好点的电池,估计也要购买或租赁蔚来的这个电池服务体系,最后蔚来可能会演变为:买(租赁)电池送车的公司 [开心]
@vision
$蔚来(NIO)$
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
@vision:【悬赏】如何看待蔚来发布BaaS电池租用服务?
皇甫谦
2020-11-04
$蔚来(NIO)$
特朗普获胜!
皇甫谦
2020-09-30
$蔚来(NIO)$
[害羞]
皇甫谦
2020-08-18
我觉得大妈的观念跟我很像诶,以后也要给自己的孩子找这样的男/女朋友。嗯😊
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
$蔚来(NIO)$
@胖虎哒哒:上海大妈招女婿新标准,你觉得如何?
皇甫谦
2020-08-14
蔚来
$蔚来(NIO)$
这是怎么了?
皇甫谦
2020-11-05
$蔚来(NIO)$
后悔当时为啥卖了一半!唉,知足常乐吧!all is ming!
皇甫谦
2020-10-15
$蔚来(NIO)$
小赚
皇甫谦
2020-09-19
置之死地而后生,陷之亡地而后存。蔚来经过大难而不是,必将凤凰涅槃!看好蔚来,蔚来加电!
$蔚来(NIO)$
@孟浩:在这个世道,没有人敢说蔚来半句好话,也没有人敢为李斌伸出半根稻草,但是我希望中国的汽车行业就像5G通信行业一样在世界上拥有响亮的话语权,蔚来,加油!【视频转载自线条社,侵删】$蔚来(NIO)$
皇甫谦
2020-09-03
德不配位,必有灾殃!痛恨**!
@胖虎哒哒:吃瓜!胡祖六基金"贱卖"蚂蚁集团股权,投资人控诉:你的良心不会痛吗?
皇甫谦
2020-08-20
之前就我就说过,特斯拉这种在中国已经走低消路线的牌子就老老实实为人民服务,不要总想端着身价,觉得自己逼格很高。其实这是有思想包袱的表现,瞧不起拼多多瞧不起渠道,不好好服务车主客户,那在中国吃枣药丸。对比之下倒是很看好蔚来
$蔚来(NIO)$
@话题虎:【话题】特斯拉与拼多多的撕币大战,正悄然打响!
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欢迎大家来聊聊如何看待蔚来发布BaaS电池租用服务对于蔚来的价值?你觉得BaaS电池租用服务发布是否会改变现有的电动车格局?你看好蔚来吗? 我会随机挑选3个说的最有道理的朋友,每个人可获得300虎币。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$</a> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">$理想汽车(LI)$</a> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$特斯拉(TSLA)$</a> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$</a>","text":"8月20日,蔚来汽车正式发布电池租用服务BaaS,其车电分离业务走出第一步。蔚来汽车创始人李斌介绍,未来用户购买蔚来全系车型无需购买电池,车价将有所下调,用户将直接租用电池。 具体方案为,采用BaaS模式买蔚来,所有车型的车价下降7万,每月电池租用服务费980元起,非服务无忧用户另外要支付每月80元电池保障费用。以蔚来汽车的ES6(参数|图片)为例,整车指导价为35.8万元,补贴后售价为34.36万元,如果选用BaaS模式购车,价格将下调至27.36万元,与特斯拉的中国制造Model 3(参数|图片)标准续航升级版处于同一价位。考虑到ES6为SUV而Model 3为轿车,前者较后者更具竞争力。从公司成立起,蔚来汽车就一直推动车电分离,包括推出换电站等新模式吸引用户,这一模式也得到有关部门的认可和支持,特别是新能源补贴新政中,明确规定售价30万以上的电动车必须具备换电能力才可享受购车补贴,但支持换电模式的车型除外。截至8月20日,蔚来在全国范围内已建成换电站143座,覆盖64座城市,累计为用户完成换电服务超过80万次。 欢迎大家来聊聊如何看待蔚来发布BaaS电池租用服务对于蔚来的价值?你觉得BaaS电池租用服务发布是否会改变现有的电动车格局?你看好蔚来吗? 我会随机挑选3个说的最有道理的朋友,每个人可获得300虎币。$蔚来(NIO)$ $理想汽车(LI)$ $特斯拉(TSLA)$ 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此事一出,立马引来路人围观和质问。有意向求媳妇的家庭表示自己儿子月薪数万,然而上海阿姨不紧不慢地说出了一句意味深长的话:“你儿子上班只能决定下限,会理财才能决定上限”。 通过视频可以看出,这位上海阿姨是位老股民,经历过熊市。打扮精致,思维逻辑清晰,说话有理有据,不卑不亢,有眼光,女儿长相和基本面应该不错。理财水平的量化指标则隐含着对男方收入水平、教育水平、个人修养与性格的极高要求。 探讨价值观问题的人很多,我这里主要针对一些与投资理财有关的话题进行分析。 视频内容有2个线索: 线索1 视频里一对男方父母怀疑此丈母娘到底是在招女婿还是在招聘员工?表示自己的儿子月入几万,认为会理财没什么了不起,而且理财也不是很稳当。 显然,双方的交流不是那么令人愉快,男方没有理财习惯也是个大概率事件。这是双方长辈在为子女择偶条件的认识上产生了偏差。女方母亲看中的是成长能力,男方父母认为价值是前提。这就好比只做成长股和只做价值股的人,本身就是两个世界的人一样。线索2 上海丈母娘称自己有几年的理财经验,认为会理财的男生心态都挺好的,在外面也不会乱花钱。对之前一个在支付宝上抄作业的男生还挺满意的。 人都喜欢和自己爱好相近的,这位丈母娘当然","listText":"上海大妈又火了,这次阿姨是要找女婿,来看看你符不符合大妈要求。 真人真事!近日,在上海著名的相亲角,一位阿姨开出征女婿贴,要求具有3年以上金融投资相关经验,理财组合年化10%,可提供交易记录、业绩证明优先。 此标准要求: 无具体经济条件要求 具有3年以上金融投资相关经验 熟悉理财产品运作机制,具有强烈的风险控制意识和自律能力优先 理财组合年化10%以上,可提供交易记录和业绩证明的优先 无车无房无存款,收益率符合条件亦可 内心OS:阿姨我可以!!! 再来看看女方自身条件: 89年,容貌姣好,央企高管,年薪50万 2套3居婚房无贷款 内心OS:阿姨我真的可以!!! 此事一出,立马引来路人围观和质问。有意向求媳妇的家庭表示自己儿子月薪数万,然而上海阿姨不紧不慢地说出了一句意味深长的话:“你儿子上班只能决定下限,会理财才能决定上限”。 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一向以高大上自居的特斯拉,显然对显然对未经自己允许的拼团活动十分不满。 当天下午,特斯拉发表紧急声明: 未与拼多多就该团购活动有任何合作,未向拼多多提供过过任何生产车辆。如消费者因上述团购活动产生任何争议或权益受损,特斯拉不承担任何责任! 面对特斯拉的“义正言辞”,拼多多用十个字硬怼: 车辆是正品,补贴是真的。 于是,在拼多多的硬气背书下,5辆车迅速被拼友们抢走。后来,有些拼友已经提到了车,原本以为特斯拉钱到手了,也就不纠结了。 但,令人没想到几个星期后,事情迎来新变化。 8月14日,一名在拼多多上完成全部支付后的拼友,却发现被特斯拉取消了订单。 特斯拉交付专员称: 我司怀疑此订单为拼多多或其他商家以您的名义下单, 实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息, 涉嫌违反了特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款。 我司已经声明拼多多的该团购活动未经授权, 建议您投诉拼多多,并申请退款(总之钱收到了,也不发车[摊手])。 拼多多知道后,立即回应: 车主并没有违反特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款,是车主本人与特斯拉签了订购协议,全力支持消费者依法维权,并将积极落实车辆交付工作! 实在不行,建议用户退款重新去下单,全价买,完成后我们再直接打给用户2万块,并建议用户投诉特斯拉![捂脸] 于是,一场特斯拉与拼多多的撕币大战正式开打! 8月17日,特斯拉全球副总裁、大中华区负责人 朱晓彤 对全体员工做出严正指示: 此事件严重破坏了特斯拉的直营模式与价格体系!特斯拉没有庞大的公关部门和预算费,没有人能独善其身,官方的声音需要每个人去传播,每个人都得行动起来! 然而,第二天,媒体报道,在拼多多和宜买车的一套微操和指导之下,","listText":"7月21日,拼多多和“宜买车”推出了5辆特斯拉Model 3参加“万人团”活动,团购价为25.18万元,而官方指导价为27.18万元,相当于每辆车补贴2万元。 一向以高大上自居的特斯拉,显然对显然对未经自己允许的拼团活动十分不满。 当天下午,特斯拉发表紧急声明: 未与拼多多就该团购活动有任何合作,未向拼多多提供过过任何生产车辆。如消费者因上述团购活动产生任何争议或权益受损,特斯拉不承担任何责任! 面对特斯拉的“义正言辞”,拼多多用十个字硬怼: 车辆是正品,补贴是真的。 于是,在拼多多的硬气背书下,5辆车迅速被拼友们抢走。后来,有些拼友已经提到了车,原本以为特斯拉钱到手了,也就不纠结了。 但,令人没想到几个星期后,事情迎来新变化。 8月14日,一名在拼多多上完成全部支付后的拼友,却发现被特斯拉取消了订单。 特斯拉交付专员称: 我司怀疑此订单为拼多多或其他商家以您的名义下单, 实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息, 涉嫌违反了特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款。 我司已经声明拼多多的该团购活动未经授权, 建议您投诉拼多多,并申请退款(总之钱收到了,也不发车[摊手])。 拼多多知道后,立即回应: 车主并没有违反特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款,是车主本人与特斯拉签了订购协议,全力支持消费者依法维权,并将积极落实车辆交付工作! 实在不行,建议用户退款重新去下单,全价买,完成后我们再直接打给用户2万块,并建议用户投诉特斯拉![捂脸] 于是,一场特斯拉与拼多多的撕币大战正式开打! 8月17日,特斯拉全球副总裁、大中华区负责人 朱晓彤 对全体员工做出严正指示: 此事件严重破坏了特斯拉的直营模式与价格体系!特斯拉没有庞大的公关部门和预算费,没有人能独善其身,官方的声音需要每个人去传播,每个人都得行动起来! 然而,第二天,媒体报道,在拼多多和宜买车的一套微操和指导之下,","text":"7月21日,拼多多和“宜买车”推出了5辆特斯拉Model 3参加“万人团”活动,团购价为25.18万元,而官方指导价为27.18万元,相当于每辆车补贴2万元。 一向以高大上自居的特斯拉,显然对显然对未经自己允许的拼团活动十分不满。 当天下午,特斯拉发表紧急声明: 未与拼多多就该团购活动有任何合作,未向拼多多提供过过任何生产车辆。如消费者因上述团购活动产生任何争议或权益受损,特斯拉不承担任何责任! 面对特斯拉的“义正言辞”,拼多多用十个字硬怼: 车辆是正品,补贴是真的。 于是,在拼多多的硬气背书下,5辆车迅速被拼友们抢走。后来,有些拼友已经提到了车,原本以为特斯拉钱到手了,也就不纠结了。 但,令人没想到几个星期后,事情迎来新变化。 8月14日,一名在拼多多上完成全部支付后的拼友,却发现被特斯拉取消了订单。 特斯拉交付专员称: 我司怀疑此订单为拼多多或其他商家以您的名义下单, 实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息, 涉嫌违反了特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款。 我司已经声明拼多多的该团购活动未经授权, 建议您投诉拼多多,并申请退款(总之钱收到了,也不发车[摊手])。 拼多多知道后,立即回应: 车主并没有违反特斯拉“禁止转卖”条款,是车主本人与特斯拉签了订购协议,全力支持消费者依法维权,并将积极落实车辆交付工作! 实在不行,建议用户退款重新去下单,全价买,完成后我们再直接打给用户2万块,并建议用户投诉特斯拉![捂脸] 于是,一场特斯拉与拼多多的撕币大战正式开打! 8月17日,特斯拉全球副总裁、大中华区负责人 朱晓彤 对全体员工做出严正指示: 此事件严重破坏了特斯拉的直营模式与价格体系!特斯拉没有庞大的公关部门和预算费,没有人能独善其身,官方的声音需要每个人去传播,每个人都得行动起来! 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