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东十里堡路之狼
2020-11-16
坚定看空蔚来等国产电动车股价
很明显今年新能源车是站上了风口。4家车企上涨连带着开心汽车,小牛电动都疯了一波。用的来说看涨人士的意见是看好未来庞大的替代市场,因此得出估值不高的结论。看空的人会讲重资产行业的特性等方面。我要说的是另外一个方面的事。 长期来看电动车市场的好是毋庸置疑的,但是我个人认为由于政策的导向这需要5到10年的发展,才能迎来行业的爆发期。这5到10年也是给各家新兴厂商打下根基的时间和老牌厂商转型的时间。因此我认为目前国内三家的股价很可能是国内的庄在想办法从资本市场拿钱反哺公司进一步扩张。 说了政策也要谈谈实际购买者的情况。目前市面上最多的新能源车还是那些补贴后价格不超过15万的车。诸如北汽新能源,广汽传奇的一些用油车直接改过来的电车,比亚迪的低端产品这些。诸如小鹏,蔚来,理想这类价格比肩BBA的产品从销量上表现出了符合豪华品牌的情况。这是因为大多数中国家庭的收入没有各位以为的那么高。以北京为例,年平均人均可支配收入不足7万。两口之家买蔚来需要花3年甚至更多。运气好的话钱攒够了,摇到号,买车。运气不好钱不够,号来了,要么贷款,要么取舍一番选了价格低些的产品。可能有人觉得这个例子不合理,认为很多人家里会出钱帮衬等,但是前提是他们不能有房贷。因此目前来说蔚来销量最多就是目前BBA的C级车销量的极限了。价格这块小鹏情况会好很多,但是一样面临和特斯拉的正面竞争。理想其实纯属蹭热度的,很多地方的政策都不给他算新能源。真要说泡沫那肯定是它最多了。 然后就是车辆使用的问题。目前国内城市的社区9成都存在停车难问题。小区车位设计的容积率能达到1的几乎不存在。如果买了电车更是清楚的感受到安装充电桩的难。因此很多拥有油车的家庭在换车时不太可能考虑油车换电车。这块市场很大但是没有一家企业有好办法吃下来。 最后就是补贴滑坡,新发新能源牌照可能持续减少,以及来自传统厂商的竞争了。 总之汽车市场是个很传统的市场,不会
坚定看空蔚来等国产电动车股价
东十里堡路之狼
08:33
$MSTR 20250103 365.0 PUT$
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东十里堡路之狼
12-17 00:07
$TSLA 20250321 450.0 CALL$
做了个cc给自己上限卡死了。就剩下这3800刀了
东十里堡路之狼
2020-04-17
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
下了790的空单。我觉得这个股不值他现在的价格。500倒是比较合理。
东十里堡路之狼
11-09
$Destiny Tech100 Inc(DXYZ)$
起飞吧,看你能狂欢几周。一旦风向变了就是捡钱的时候了
东十里堡路之狼
2021-07-12
$维珍银河(SPCE)$
从飞行高度来看,太空船2号确实差了点意思。但是在我看来除了这个全是优点。首先太空船2号可回收,发射难度和成本远低于能够入轨的火箭。其次用运输机发射的形式和飞机返回的形式既可以保证安全性也可以再技术进步后实现类似暴风雪号的入轨飞行。最后,不是每一个富豪都想挑战生与死,他们更多的要的是新奇体验。维珍的太空船2号提供了一种安全相对低价的体验形式。未来可能有很多小富阶层的人为了认识大佬让这25w一张的船票抢破头。就像竞拍巴菲特的一顿饭一样。总之太空旅行作为面向广大普通人的商业项目,安全,高效可能比飞行高度更重要。维珍已经证明了自己的安全性,后面只要再造上一架母船和一两架太空船,完全可以实现一天送上去十几二十个人。而高度是80还是100公里其实就是把发动机再升级一下就好了。毕竟都没出电离层呢,不存在技术鸿沟。
东十里堡路之狼
2020-10-22
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
给我的感觉就是这个公司疯狂炒作。一方面是各种主动安全测试被传统厂商吊打,出了恶**通事故从不正面处理。另一边又鼓吹自己可以实现无人驾驶。盈利方面还没细看财报但是不清楚产品降价的情况下如何提高的毛利率。最后就是财报前连续释放利好消息拉高股价。不过如果是睡宝上位,民主党拿下议会。不管基本面和股价如何我都all in。
东十里堡路之狼
2021-01-12
$蔚来(NIO)$
我就说一点吧。之前特斯拉弄了一个交钱开通座椅加热,可以说是一次试探。资本家通过去除选装,降低了生产流程的管理成本,并把物料成本强加给购车人,之后利用开通费用再多挣一笔。但是毕竟座椅加热也就撑死了1000的物料成本。李斌学的快啊,直接把自动驾驶功能这么玩。一套几万的硬件让你选你不一定要,但是我可以捆绑销售一举多得。首先是提高车价,进而提高利润。然后是利用价格高凸显自己不同于其他降价的妖艳**。最后就是所谓的持续性收入拿到资本市场去讲故事。不否认蔚来的股价还有上涨空间,但是对于老板有人品问题的公司,特别是中国公司建议大家小心点。比如昨天晚故意等中国韭菜睡了再发消息。
东十里堡路之狼
2020-12-03
$Jumia Technologies AG(JMIA)$
我不知道为什么大家看好这个股票。听上去业务确实是独角兽级别的。但是网购对基础设施建设和企业管理,物流仓储要求都很高。黑人能做好吗?如果你网购产品比去超市慢,甚至经常买到劣质货你还会网购吗?这个业务本身很好,但是我觉得选错地方了。另外这个股票控盘成本并不高,跟着庄做做波段就挺美。
东十里堡路之狼
2020-08-20
$苹果(AAPL)$
我个人感觉现在股价的疯狂拆股之后会让持有的人亏到疯狂
东十里堡路之狼
2020-09-01
$Zoom(ZM)$
我想死
东十里堡路之狼
2020-08-28
$Sea Ltd(SE)$
我这儿call你18号到160别坑我啊
东十里堡路之狼
2020-08-26
$Zoom(ZM)$
年初国外大佬推荐这个。当时觉得100顶天了。现在只能说大佬就是大佬
东十里堡路之狼
2021-01-29
$游戏驿站(GME)$
很多精神资本家觉得散户做错了。我就想提一点,终止买入是不是应该一视同仁?怎么还有散户不许买,让机构买这个说法?不就是为了把定价权让给机构,让大户先跑吗?你们是没看过近代史还是脑袋长到别人屁股底下了?我看到很多政客开始抨击这一现象了。我觉得今天盘前势必还有一战。不只是为了利益,还有散户的尊严。
东十里堡路之狼
2020-09-02
$Sea Ltd(SE)$
$Facebook(FB)$
0904的call死定了
东十里堡路之狼
2021-03-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
前天朋友发了个他媳妇在小鹏里k歌的视频。考虑了下可能以后这些新能源车厂会把车内娱乐做的更好,以此实现存量市场的订阅付费收入增长。基于以上考虑我选择存量最多的蔚来。同时新能源车其实应该在动力上回归理性,将提速降低到5到7秒这个区间。提升高速续航性能。这两点做到更容易提升车的续航里程。
东十里堡路之狼
2020-08-18
$美国航空(AAL)$
就两手22年30的看涨。老子不信邪。
东十里堡路之狼
2021-02-09
$Aphria Inc.(APHA)$
怎么你天天跟不上
$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$
东十里堡路之狼
2021-01-27
$AMC院线(AMC)$
这是一次跨越了种族国家的无产阶级的伟大胜利。在部分别有用心的资本家和违大革命者的带领下我们站起来了
东十里堡路之狼
2020-12-16
这话我搁这,今天不喝白酒的年轻人上了年纪也不会喝。肉眼可见的不为了应酬70.80都不喝的玩意。所以白酒走强只能证明中国证券市场的混乱,需要投资者远离。
行走的印钞机:白酒何时才会结束涨势?
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06178\">光大证券</a>出了一篇研究报告《一杯敬传承,一杯敬繁华——白酒行业深度报告之框架篇》,给出了一个非常复杂的研究框架(见下图),从供需、量价,还有宏观、中观、微观三个方面分析白酒行业。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/641a83a6394899f18984c5a9869a2156\" tg-width=\"589\" tg-height=\"635\"></p>\n<p>不能说这个研究没用,而只能说,一个体系,一个框架,变量越多,准确性越低,原因来自于蝴蝶效应的存在。</p>\n<p>1963年,美国科学家洛伦兹在用计算机进行地球大气的仿真运算的时候,为了观察结果,他尝试对中间的一个参数进行调整,将一个中间值0.506取出,提高精度到0.506127以后又放回,发现两个计算结果偏离了十万八千里,前后两条曲线的相似性完全消失。</p>\n<p>根据这个实验结果,洛伦茨提出了“蝴蝶效应”概念,也就是一个微小的初始条件的变化,可能会导致一连串的连锁反应,从而使系统发生极大的变化,让结果变得完全不可预测。</p>\n<p>回到光大的研究框架,其中的两个变量,光<b>居民收入水平和企业盈利能力</b>中的一个,就能让一个宏观经济研究员的头发掉光。发改委下属的中国宏观经济研究院,光研究员就有89位,每天的工作不过就是按着宏观经济这一个方向翻来覆去的研究。</p>\n<p>这个模型很全,但假设太多了,可以说结论完全取决于假设。我们客观的说,这些前提假设,还有这些中间变量,基本不可能做对,结果到底是什么样子纯靠蒙。</p>\n<p>炒个股而已,我们需要一个更简单、更实操的模型。</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300788\">中信出版</a>社出过一个费希尔投资系列,其中有一本《必需消费品投资》,里面对必需消费品的股性有两张非常好的图。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f94b1b1faf66df4f1a944b25c321b6ad\" tg-width=\"478\" tg-height=\"275\"></p>\n<p>第一张是股票自身的表现与个人消费支出(PCE)之间的关系图(见上图),可以发现,双方的走势基本上是同向的。这意味着个人消费支出越高,必需消费品企业的盈利越高,股票的表现也越好。</p>\n<p>但也不是总是如此,在上世纪90年代末,个人消费支出表现很好,但必需消费品股票表现却很差,因为那个阶段的牛市让资金转向了弹性较大的科技股。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7c33127036c8eec7056cfa0dda17285\" tg-width=\"486\" tg-height=\"266\"></p>\n<p>第二张图则是必需消费品股票的相对表现与个人消费支出之间的关系图(见上图),双方的走势基本上是相反的。这意味着,当个人消费支出快速增加,经济繁荣的时候必需消费品的股票表现反而是落后的。</p>\n<p>因为经济繁荣,基金经理们更倾向于减少必选消费,增加弹性较大的科技股的投资。而当经济衰退,个人消费支出萎靡的时候,必需消费品的股票表现反而是好的,因为基金经理倾向于在组合中增加必需消费品股票进行防御。</p>\n<p>参照上面两张图,我们也有一个简单的白酒模型,大家只需要自己判断两个变量就好了。</p>\n<p>第一个变量,是宏观的大经济和流动性状况,这是最重要的变量。</p>\n<p><b>当宏观经济比较好,流动性非常宽松的时候,市场往往倾向于配置想象空间最大的行业。</b>在2007年的那波牛市中,是煤飞色舞,周期股一统天下,舍我其谁;到了2015年,则是各种互联网+。</p>\n<p>总之经济好转,流动性宽松,必需消费品就会被弃之如草芥,有飞机谁会骑自行车呢?</p>\n<p>第二个变量,是白酒的经营业绩。</p>\n<p><b>理论上来说,白酒的业绩越好,股价表现越好,但这个变量的重要性远不如第一个。</b></p>\n<p>你可以深挖白酒的经营业绩,预测茅台的一批价,然后计算各种白酒品牌的提价空间,但千万不要入戏太深。白酒业绩好,股票可能上涨,但并不必然。白酒业绩差,可能下跌,但也可能上涨,千万不要刻舟求剑。</p>\n<p>在这个框架下,我们就可以很好的解释一些问题:</p>\n<p><b>1. 白酒为什么最近一直涨?</b></p>\n<p>因为自2019年以来,经济总体上一直不太好,市场风险偏好不高,2020年还有疫情,市场倾向于防御。</p>\n<p><b>2. 为什么在必需消费品中选中了白酒做防御?</b></p>\n<p>因为中国的白酒有着绝佳的商业模式。品牌影响力已经形成,高毛利率、高净利率,现金流极佳,购买频次高,再加上酒精产品具有致瘾性。这使得白酒在必需消费品中脱颖而出,成为市场在做防御时的最佳品种。</p>\n<p>“时无英雄,使竖子成名”这个词,带有一丝轻蔑的语气。但这个典故其实非常符合现在股市众多参与者的心理。</p>\n<p>比如军工市场不好的时候,就有研究员说,全部军工行业的市值还不如一瓶茅台。等战争来了,我们要靠喝茅台去争取和平么?</p>\n<p>可是,就是竖子也不是谁都能做的。你不得不承认,哪怕是被称为锦鲤的村花杨超越,自身也有着非常优秀的素质,既包括外形上的,也包括心理上的。</p>\n<p>至于茅台,就不用说了。<b>茅台,目前基本上是现金等价物,高达92%的毛利率,简直就是行走的印钞机。</b></p>\n<p>白酒的身上,确实有太多不被看好的槽点。看空白酒最大的逻辑就是,现在的年轻人注重健康,不喝白酒,所以白酒的需求量会越来越小。这个逻辑的问题是,<b>你根本不知道现在的年轻人将来上了年纪之后,是不是会开始喝白酒。</b></p>\n<p>最极端的例子,北方东北山东的很多上了年纪的女人,年轻的时候也是什么都不喝,进入老年之后普遍都能喝点白酒。</p>\n<p>至于白酒越陈越香也是个伪命题。高浓度的酒精会抑制有机物质的活化,所以高度酒酿成之后就变化不大,越陈越香的是黄酒。现在卖的三十年五十年陈的白酒,都不是真的放了三十年五十年,都是调制酒。</p>\n<p>真正的陈年的酱香酒,会有一股焦糊味,喜欢的人并不多。</p>\n<p>那白酒行情什么时候会结束呢?</p>\n<p>作为一个防御品种,白酒行情的结束并不取决于自身的业绩,而是由未来宏观经济状况决定的。白酒成长的慢,确实有些让人乏味,没有光伏、电动车有那么大的想象空间。但当大家都在走路的时候,有辆自行车骑也不错啊。</p>\n<p>白酒,就是那辆自行车。</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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}\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n行走的印钞机:白酒何时才会结束涨势?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1075158368\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6edd4ef1e1f428dad9cb66d3735ea2a);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">锦缎 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2020-12-16 10:01</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>《晋书·阮籍传》记载:“尝登广武,观楚汉战处,叹曰:“时无英雄,使竖子成名。”</p>\n<p>最后这9个字,恰好解答了当前A股投资者的一个普遍性迷茫:白酒为何一直涨?</p>\n<p>下图是2010年以来,白酒与A股三个主要指数的走势对比图:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f979de1393fb22b0f8dd550fea3d0e07\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"437\"></p>\n<p>2010年以来,沪深300、中证1000和创业板指,全都没有超过2015年牛市的高点。只有白酒,很快就从熊市氛围中恢复过来,并在最近的这几年里,不断的勇创新高。</p>\n<p>于是,每当市场有风吹草动,各路段子手纷纷出动,空气中弥漫着柠檬的味道:</p>\n<blockquote>\n “中国股市只有两种科技,酱香型科技和浓香型科技”。“有机构投委会看完泡泡玛特的火爆后,开始认真考虑要不要提拔几个90后的基金经理,不过压力最大的是,他们的业绩明显跑不赢做白酒的70后,提拔理由不充分。”“茅台到底是可选消费还是必需消费?回答是,卖1499元的茅台是必需,卖3000块的是可选。”\n</blockquote>\n<p>与其在那等着白酒股跌下来,我们不如来思考一下,白酒整体的投资逻辑。为什么白酒会一直涨,一直涨到现在成为市场的信仰。</p>\n<p>2019年7月12日,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06178\">光大证券</a>出了一篇研究报告《一杯敬传承,一杯敬繁华——白酒行业深度报告之框架篇》,给出了一个非常复杂的研究框架(见下图),从供需、量价,还有宏观、中观、微观三个方面分析白酒行业。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/641a83a6394899f18984c5a9869a2156\" tg-width=\"589\" tg-height=\"635\"></p>\n<p>不能说这个研究没用,而只能说,一个体系,一个框架,变量越多,准确性越低,原因来自于蝴蝶效应的存在。</p>\n<p>1963年,美国科学家洛伦兹在用计算机进行地球大气的仿真运算的时候,为了观察结果,他尝试对中间的一个参数进行调整,将一个中间值0.506取出,提高精度到0.506127以后又放回,发现两个计算结果偏离了十万八千里,前后两条曲线的相似性完全消失。</p>\n<p>根据这个实验结果,洛伦茨提出了“蝴蝶效应”概念,也就是一个微小的初始条件的变化,可能会导致一连串的连锁反应,从而使系统发生极大的变化,让结果变得完全不可预测。</p>\n<p>回到光大的研究框架,其中的两个变量,光<b>居民收入水平和企业盈利能力</b>中的一个,就能让一个宏观经济研究员的头发掉光。发改委下属的中国宏观经济研究院,光研究员就有89位,每天的工作不过就是按着宏观经济这一个方向翻来覆去的研究。</p>\n<p>这个模型很全,但假设太多了,可以说结论完全取决于假设。我们客观的说,这些前提假设,还有这些中间变量,基本不可能做对,结果到底是什么样子纯靠蒙。</p>\n<p>炒个股而已,我们需要一个更简单、更实操的模型。</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300788\">中信出版</a>社出过一个费希尔投资系列,其中有一本《必需消费品投资》,里面对必需消费品的股性有两张非常好的图。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f94b1b1faf66df4f1a944b25c321b6ad\" tg-width=\"478\" tg-height=\"275\"></p>\n<p>第一张是股票自身的表现与个人消费支出(PCE)之间的关系图(见上图),可以发现,双方的走势基本上是同向的。这意味着个人消费支出越高,必需消费品企业的盈利越高,股票的表现也越好。</p>\n<p>但也不是总是如此,在上世纪90年代末,个人消费支出表现很好,但必需消费品股票表现却很差,因为那个阶段的牛市让资金转向了弹性较大的科技股。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7c33127036c8eec7056cfa0dda17285\" tg-width=\"486\" tg-height=\"266\"></p>\n<p>第二张图则是必需消费品股票的相对表现与个人消费支出之间的关系图(见上图),双方的走势基本上是相反的。这意味着,当个人消费支出快速增加,经济繁荣的时候必需消费品的股票表现反而是落后的。</p>\n<p>因为经济繁荣,基金经理们更倾向于减少必选消费,增加弹性较大的科技股的投资。而当经济衰退,个人消费支出萎靡的时候,必需消费品的股票表现反而是好的,因为基金经理倾向于在组合中增加必需消费品股票进行防御。</p>\n<p>参照上面两张图,我们也有一个简单的白酒模型,大家只需要自己判断两个变量就好了。</p>\n<p>第一个变量,是宏观的大经济和流动性状况,这是最重要的变量。</p>\n<p><b>当宏观经济比较好,流动性非常宽松的时候,市场往往倾向于配置想象空间最大的行业。</b>在2007年的那波牛市中,是煤飞色舞,周期股一统天下,舍我其谁;到了2015年,则是各种互联网+。</p>\n<p>总之经济好转,流动性宽松,必需消费品就会被弃之如草芥,有飞机谁会骑自行车呢?</p>\n<p>第二个变量,是白酒的经营业绩。</p>\n<p><b>理论上来说,白酒的业绩越好,股价表现越好,但这个变量的重要性远不如第一个。</b></p>\n<p>你可以深挖白酒的经营业绩,预测茅台的一批价,然后计算各种白酒品牌的提价空间,但千万不要入戏太深。白酒业绩好,股票可能上涨,但并不必然。白酒业绩差,可能下跌,但也可能上涨,千万不要刻舟求剑。</p>\n<p>在这个框架下,我们就可以很好的解释一些问题:</p>\n<p><b>1. 白酒为什么最近一直涨?</b></p>\n<p>因为自2019年以来,经济总体上一直不太好,市场风险偏好不高,2020年还有疫情,市场倾向于防御。</p>\n<p><b>2. 为什么在必需消费品中选中了白酒做防御?</b></p>\n<p>因为中国的白酒有着绝佳的商业模式。品牌影响力已经形成,高毛利率、高净利率,现金流极佳,购买频次高,再加上酒精产品具有致瘾性。这使得白酒在必需消费品中脱颖而出,成为市场在做防御时的最佳品种。</p>\n<p>“时无英雄,使竖子成名”这个词,带有一丝轻蔑的语气。但这个典故其实非常符合现在股市众多参与者的心理。</p>\n<p>比如军工市场不好的时候,就有研究员说,全部军工行业的市值还不如一瓶茅台。等战争来了,我们要靠喝茅台去争取和平么?</p>\n<p>可是,就是竖子也不是谁都能做的。你不得不承认,哪怕是被称为锦鲤的村花杨超越,自身也有着非常优秀的素质,既包括外形上的,也包括心理上的。</p>\n<p>至于茅台,就不用说了。<b>茅台,目前基本上是现金等价物,高达92%的毛利率,简直就是行走的印钞机。</b></p>\n<p>白酒的身上,确实有太多不被看好的槽点。看空白酒最大的逻辑就是,现在的年轻人注重健康,不喝白酒,所以白酒的需求量会越来越小。这个逻辑的问题是,<b>你根本不知道现在的年轻人将来上了年纪之后,是不是会开始喝白酒。</b></p>\n<p>最极端的例子,北方东北山东的很多上了年纪的女人,年轻的时候也是什么都不喝,进入老年之后普遍都能喝点白酒。</p>\n<p>至于白酒越陈越香也是个伪命题。高浓度的酒精会抑制有机物质的活化,所以高度酒酿成之后就变化不大,越陈越香的是黄酒。现在卖的三十年五十年陈的白酒,都不是真的放了三十年五十年,都是调制酒。</p>\n<p>真正的陈年的酱香酒,会有一股焦糊味,喜欢的人并不多。</p>\n<p>那白酒行情什么时候会结束呢?</p>\n<p>作为一个防御品种,白酒行情的结束并不取决于自身的业绩,而是由未来宏观经济状况决定的。白酒成长的慢,确实有些让人乏味,没有光伏、电动车有那么大的想象空间。但当大家都在走路的时候,有辆自行车骑也不错啊。</p>\n<p>白酒,就是那辆自行车。</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b02b4a54f927a62b2fe018692a0eb06d","relate_stocks":{},"is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1141778748","content_text":"《晋书·阮籍传》记载:“尝登广武,观楚汉战处,叹曰:“时无英雄,使竖子成名。”\n最后这9个字,恰好解答了当前A股投资者的一个普遍性迷茫:白酒为何一直涨?\n下图是2010年以来,白酒与A股三个主要指数的走势对比图:\n\n2010年以来,沪深300、中证1000和创业板指,全都没有超过2015年牛市的高点。只有白酒,很快就从熊市氛围中恢复过来,并在最近的这几年里,不断的勇创新高。\n于是,每当市场有风吹草动,各路段子手纷纷出动,空气中弥漫着柠檬的味道:\n\n “中国股市只有两种科技,酱香型科技和浓香型科技”。“有机构投委会看完泡泡玛特的火爆后,开始认真考虑要不要提拔几个90后的基金经理,不过压力最大的是,他们的业绩明显跑不赢做白酒的70后,提拔理由不充分。”“茅台到底是可选消费还是必需消费?回答是,卖1499元的茅台是必需,卖3000块的是可选。”\n\n与其在那等着白酒股跌下来,我们不如来思考一下,白酒整体的投资逻辑。为什么白酒会一直涨,一直涨到现在成为市场的信仰。\n2019年7月12日,光大证券出了一篇研究报告《一杯敬传承,一杯敬繁华——白酒行业深度报告之框架篇》,给出了一个非常复杂的研究框架(见下图),从供需、量价,还有宏观、中观、微观三个方面分析白酒行业。\n\n不能说这个研究没用,而只能说,一个体系,一个框架,变量越多,准确性越低,原因来自于蝴蝶效应的存在。\n1963年,美国科学家洛伦兹在用计算机进行地球大气的仿真运算的时候,为了观察结果,他尝试对中间的一个参数进行调整,将一个中间值0.506取出,提高精度到0.506127以后又放回,发现两个计算结果偏离了十万八千里,前后两条曲线的相似性完全消失。\n根据这个实验结果,洛伦茨提出了“蝴蝶效应”概念,也就是一个微小的初始条件的变化,可能会导致一连串的连锁反应,从而使系统发生极大的变化,让结果变得完全不可预测。\n回到光大的研究框架,其中的两个变量,光居民收入水平和企业盈利能力中的一个,就能让一个宏观经济研究员的头发掉光。发改委下属的中国宏观经济研究院,光研究员就有89位,每天的工作不过就是按着宏观经济这一个方向翻来覆去的研究。\n这个模型很全,但假设太多了,可以说结论完全取决于假设。我们客观的说,这些前提假设,还有这些中间变量,基本不可能做对,结果到底是什么样子纯靠蒙。\n炒个股而已,我们需要一个更简单、更实操的模型。\n中信出版社出过一个费希尔投资系列,其中有一本《必需消费品投资》,里面对必需消费品的股性有两张非常好的图。\n\n第一张是股票自身的表现与个人消费支出(PCE)之间的关系图(见上图),可以发现,双方的走势基本上是同向的。这意味着个人消费支出越高,必需消费品企业的盈利越高,股票的表现也越好。\n但也不是总是如此,在上世纪90年代末,个人消费支出表现很好,但必需消费品股票表现却很差,因为那个阶段的牛市让资金转向了弹性较大的科技股。\n\n第二张图则是必需消费品股票的相对表现与个人消费支出之间的关系图(见上图),双方的走势基本上是相反的。这意味着,当个人消费支出快速增加,经济繁荣的时候必需消费品的股票表现反而是落后的。\n因为经济繁荣,基金经理们更倾向于减少必选消费,增加弹性较大的科技股的投资。而当经济衰退,个人消费支出萎靡的时候,必需消费品的股票表现反而是好的,因为基金经理倾向于在组合中增加必需消费品股票进行防御。\n参照上面两张图,我们也有一个简单的白酒模型,大家只需要自己判断两个变量就好了。\n第一个变量,是宏观的大经济和流动性状况,这是最重要的变量。\n当宏观经济比较好,流动性非常宽松的时候,市场往往倾向于配置想象空间最大的行业。在2007年的那波牛市中,是煤飞色舞,周期股一统天下,舍我其谁;到了2015年,则是各种互联网+。\n总之经济好转,流动性宽松,必需消费品就会被弃之如草芥,有飞机谁会骑自行车呢?\n第二个变量,是白酒的经营业绩。\n理论上来说,白酒的业绩越好,股价表现越好,但这个变量的重要性远不如第一个。\n你可以深挖白酒的经营业绩,预测茅台的一批价,然后计算各种白酒品牌的提价空间,但千万不要入戏太深。白酒业绩好,股票可能上涨,但并不必然。白酒业绩差,可能下跌,但也可能上涨,千万不要刻舟求剑。\n在这个框架下,我们就可以很好的解释一些问题:\n1. 白酒为什么最近一直涨?\n因为自2019年以来,经济总体上一直不太好,市场风险偏好不高,2020年还有疫情,市场倾向于防御。\n2. 为什么在必需消费品中选中了白酒做防御?\n因为中国的白酒有着绝佳的商业模式。品牌影响力已经形成,高毛利率、高净利率,现金流极佳,购买频次高,再加上酒精产品具有致瘾性。这使得白酒在必需消费品中脱颖而出,成为市场在做防御时的最佳品种。\n“时无英雄,使竖子成名”这个词,带有一丝轻蔑的语气。但这个典故其实非常符合现在股市众多参与者的心理。\n比如军工市场不好的时候,就有研究员说,全部军工行业的市值还不如一瓶茅台。等战争来了,我们要靠喝茅台去争取和平么?\n可是,就是竖子也不是谁都能做的。你不得不承认,哪怕是被称为锦鲤的村花杨超越,自身也有着非常优秀的素质,既包括外形上的,也包括心理上的。\n至于茅台,就不用说了。茅台,目前基本上是现金等价物,高达92%的毛利率,简直就是行走的印钞机。\n白酒的身上,确实有太多不被看好的槽点。看空白酒最大的逻辑就是,现在的年轻人注重健康,不喝白酒,所以白酒的需求量会越来越小。这个逻辑的问题是,你根本不知道现在的年轻人将来上了年纪之后,是不是会开始喝白酒。\n最极端的例子,北方东北山东的很多上了年纪的女人,年轻的时候也是什么都不喝,进入老年之后普遍都能喝点白酒。\n至于白酒越陈越香也是个伪命题。高浓度的酒精会抑制有机物质的活化,所以高度酒酿成之后就变化不大,越陈越香的是黄酒。现在卖的三十年五十年陈的白酒,都不是真的放了三十年五十年,都是调制酒。\n真正的陈年的酱香酒,会有一股焦糊味,喜欢的人并不多。\n那白酒行情什么时候会结束呢?\n作为一个防御品种,白酒行情的结束并不取决于自身的业绩,而是由未来宏观经济状况决定的。白酒成长的慢,确实有些让人乏味,没有光伏、电动车有那么大的想象空间。但当大家都在走路的时候,有辆自行车骑也不错啊。\n白酒,就是那辆自行车。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":548,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3507337290644401","authorId":"3507337290644401","name":"phil888","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3507337290644401","idStr":"3507337290644401"},"content":"白酒牛,只证明某些人无能。","text":"白酒牛,只证明某些人无能。","html":"白酒牛,只证明某些人无能。"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}