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fincc
2022-03-05
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来的四宗罪与一个机会。 闲来无聊,继续说蔚来,没办法,它的关注度最高。我关注美股是因为蔚来,时至今日仍然每天关注蔚来。我不是蔚来的天然黑,曾经最看好它,如今却最不看好。 先说蔚来的五宗罪: 第一宗罪:换电。很多人吹嘘蔚来的核心优势是换电,在我看来换电正是蔚来的灭顶之灾。换电可以说一无是处。补能是一个体系,蔚来鼓吹的换一次电只需要5分钟,但是别忘了,换电是单任务系统,我们在考虑谁更优时,不是看一台车,是看一堆车。超充技术就算做不到10分钟充满电,现在轻松30分钟也补够了,而蔚来的换电全程要接近10分钟,比换电快吗?没意义。假如有60台车要充电,换电10分钟一台,充电30分钟一台,一个大一点的充电站都有30跟枪,那么一个充电站把100台车补满电只需要一个小时,而一个换电站把60台车换完需要10个小时。一个充电站的效率是换电站的10倍。有人也许会说:又不是只有一个换电站,没错,就算一个城市有十个换电站,也基本只相当于一个充电站的补能效率。更何况,你去另一个换电站路上不耽误时间吗?蔚来换电站的选址极其苛刻,一个城市可供建设换电站的地方很少,尤其主城区。而充电站全城市以后不知道有多少,不是一个量级。 换电完全没有优势吗?有的,在车辆还非常不普及的前提下,只要不排队,貌似是有优势的。仅此而已。考虑到换电站不像充电随时附近都有,那么算上你开车去换电站的时间,这点优势好像有点模糊? 如果换电只是个笑话,那也还好,毕竟可以去充电嘛。但是换电第一是成本高昂,为了那华而不实的东西,一个换电站的建设成本轻松超过一个大型充电站,而且养一堆人,蔚来为此付出高昂成本。第二个问题是:换电结构极大制约车身设计,不仅影响内部空间,也与当前车身电池一体化趋势违背。第三是蔚来因换电建设
fincc
2023-11-16
$蔚来(NIO)$
骗子公司的五大特征: 1、宏大的愿景,让人产生暴富捡漏梦想; 2、离成功永远很近,让投资者永远害怕倒在黎明前; 3、任何时候都信心满满,因为骗子往往骗的是那些缺乏自信的人; 4、对于所有热点概念都不落下,感觉很厉害,又说不出具体有什么核心能力; 5、给所有追随者以甜头,哪怕违背商业规律且不可持续。
fincc
2022-10-21
$蔚来(NIO)$
站在市场的观点来说,目前美股远未触底,加息到什么时候也还是很大的未知数,要知道上次美国经历这样的通胀,最终加息到了20%,而现在的通胀比当时还要严重。特斯拉刚过去的三季度财报单季利润33亿美金,同比增长103%,依然开启下跌,当前特斯拉的市盈率已经来到了60多。说这些没有别的,对于蔚来这样在早起就几乎陷入增长乏力,而且很长时间都看不到盈利的企业来说,随着加息和美股下行的长时间持续,几乎没有任何的支撑点,未来不短于一年的时间,依然会是持续的下跌,发行价6元绝不是结束,1-2元可能才是最终的低点。再说一次:月度销量也好,et5也好,对于蔚来的股价不会产生任何实质的影响,如果有影响也只会有一个交易日,接下来还是无尽的下跌趋势。 40元的蔚来,很多人觉得便宜了,到30的时候,感觉股市没道理,等到20的时候,怂恿别人去抄底,现在10元附近了,开始觉得自己就是那个独具慧眼的价值投资者。 现实很残酷,从现在开始买蔚来,至少还会经历两次的被腰斩。
fincc
2023-08-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
8、9月的交付量才是蔚来相对真实的水平,我不认为能稳定过2万。
fincc
2022-02-22
$蔚来(NIO)$
会不会最后中国电动车本土品牌的王者是理想汽车?理由有三:1、单款车独挑新势力不落下风;2、经营务实好于蔚来,品牌形象高于小鹏;3、理想推纯电只是时间问题,再获成功将彻底脱颖而出;4、率先实现盈利,当其他厂商还在攀比销量时,理想已经可以探讨市盈率了。5、企业最终是看企业家,李想就算你不喜欢,也几乎不招黑。
fincc
2022-03-03
$蔚来(NIO)$
抛开理想谈蔚来,为什么说新势力将面临可能覆灭的冬天。电动车常用的全铝车身,铝价一路飞涨;芯片短缺且一路飞涨;锂电池资源匮乏合种原料一路飞涨。也就是说,制造电动车的核心部件全部都在以翻倍的速度飞涨,而且看不到头。另一方面,国家补贴持续退坡,市场竞争日趋激烈。而我们伟大的蔚来,还在咖啡与换电的路上不计成本一路狂奔,还在不走量的车型上不断玩花样。马斯克说过,这一轮金融危机下来,能存活的独角兽企业不超过1%,蔚小理如果只能活下来一家,会是谁?
fincc
01-29
$蔚来(NIO)$
当前市值100亿美金左右,如果定向增发融资,还得打个折,也就是说蔚来如果再融资,可能10亿美金就要占到15%左右的股份,李斌现在的股权早已经不到10%了,虽然控制权仍然在手中,但是蔚来如果在经营上不能快速扭转,继续融资的代价将越来越大。当然,在座各位手里的股票价值也是在不断缩水的,所以企业的根本还是盈利能力,没有可以无限续杯的融资。这个位置融资就是贱卖。
fincc
2022-10-07
$蔚来(NIO)$
自己辛苦挣的钱,在这种毫无前途的公司上面不断的亏,很多还是对投资没什么经验的小白,靠着自己朴素的信仰或人云亦云不断麻醉自己,真的是我见犹怜。 制造业不是好生意,电动车发展趋缓,行业进入产能严重过剩时期,智能化一般企业根本玩不起也玩不动,最终都是电脑组装企业,没有核心技术就没有品牌,换电自始至终都是个笑话,没有强势的企业就没有爆款的可能,爆款不是碰运气。。。。 无论从哪个方向看,蔚来都是毫无前途的企业。
fincc
01-31
$蔚来(NIO)$
从市值上来说,当前100亿美金左右的市值,甚至低于赛力斯。如果电动汽车的方向不被证伪,那么蔚来的资产价值和品牌价值大概率不会低于80亿美金,股价大概率底部是在5元左右。这与是否盈利无关,这基本是蔚来的估值底,也就是80亿美金左右的市值。 但这是否代表5元将是蔚来的铁底呢?答案是否。5元是底的前提是蔚来不再融资。 以蔚来当前的财务状况,3-5年之内都很难盈利(高端车无法在欧美扩展销量,国内经济滑坡大环境,中低端车面临长期价格竞争),假设未来3-5年融资40亿美金,那么80-100亿市值对应就是股价3.5元左右。40亿够吗?需要打个问号。 所以长远来看,蔚来股价在未来三年可能下探的极限是3元左右。
fincc
2021-12-15
$蔚来(NIO)$
看了秦力洪的采访,nioday不会有什么好消息了,下周跌破25。
fincc
2023-12-06
$蔚来(NIO)$
五成仓,成本7.3。蔚来获得造车资质与生产工厂,虽然不能拯救蔚来的销量,甚至不能拯救蔚来,但是让蔚来即使被收购,也具备了较大的实物价值,可以比较放心的底部建仓。
fincc
2023-05-26
$蔚来(NIO)$
最近这两天,给蔚来下指导棋的很多,不光是竞争对手在击掌相庆,连普通网友也在指点江山,好像都比李斌聪明不少。 我一直说一句话:爆款是企业发展实力的成果,不是突然冒出来的运气。蔚来的企业实力没到,注定不会有爆款,不要说发8款车,就是发80款车也不可能有爆款。爆款不是靠运气,不是靠增加点什么配置,减少点什么配置,不是靠如果学谁谁谁。如果真这样,造车就太简单了。 蔚来要打造品牌,车型总价就把自己架在那里,要打造豪华,花里胡哨的硬件就要往上堆,自己没有核心技术,就只有拼那些昂贵的芯片、真皮、电池、音响,这些谁不爱,但是这些东西不是没有代价的。 蔚来想做高端,那些咖啡、免费换电、穷奢极侈的自媒体广告、蛀虫爬身的大捞回扣,这些巨大而无用的花销,哪一个不算到车价里? 蔚来没有自己的工厂,先不要说汽车本质就是制造业,如果改进工艺压低成本,这些与蔚来都没有缘,蔚来还要考虑如何为江淮这样的制造商保留基本利润。换言之,蔚来可以不赚钱,江淮作为代工厂,一不图品牌二不图未来,总不可能也不赚钱。蔚来血亏不影响江淮正常生产利润。 综上:靠高价买来的核心配置、养一堆巨能花钱的服务和营销、含泪也要保证生产商利润。这样的车企有可能活下去吗? 你们经常说砍点这个,砍点那个,降价多少必成爆款,你们不知道蔚来这样的企业,别人36万能爆赚8万,蔚来36万还要亏损。 不是不想增配降价,也不是不想减配降门槛。企业做到这个地步,没有竞争力就是没有竞争力,这是企业整体运作能力的体现。不怪es678,不怪ec678,不怪et57。 蔚来再出100款车,再出10个子品牌,也不可能有爆款。因为本质上,这个企业具备具备独一无二的技术,也不具备质优价廉的根基。有的只是夸大其词的宣传,差强人意的产品,居高不下的价格,
fincc
2023-03-23
$Aehr Test Systems(AEHR)$
太强了
fincc
2022-12-23
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
今天先跌后涨
fincc
2022-03-14
$蔚来(NIO)$
为什么说这个位置不应看空:1、短期下跌过多过快,即使在技术层面也需要有一个周线级别的反弹,没有一直跌的股票。2、市场情绪清一色看空,连最倔强的多头我看也绝望了,抄底的声音几乎没有了,这个时候往往就是情绪拐点的时候了。3、抛开基本面来说,蔚来小鹏没有腾讯阿里那种鬼故事,什么美国不让用app直接就休克,制造业不会,目前的下跌都是破产的跌法,过头了。4、相信不管多么不喜欢蔚来,国产电动车至少在国内市场能占有一席之地,市场不完全是投机者,有魄力的机构应该还没有绝迹。5、够了。
fincc
2023-05-11
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来137亿,小鹏90亿,理想,290亿。按现在的业绩,理想市值应该是蔚来+小鹏的2倍以上,也就是未来的3倍以上。理想目前估值基本合理,蔚来还有30%的下跌空间,前提是差距不继续拉大。
fincc
2021-10-03
销量刹不住。那些口口声声看不上特斯拉的人难道不应该反思一下,为什么特斯拉的销量会越黑越高?
特斯拉第三季度交付量24.13万,超市场预期
fincc
04-15
$蔚来(NIO)$
你们什么心情?
fincc
03-29
$蔚来(NIO)$
其实ET5没有什么好担心的,蔚来最应该担心的是乐道,小米的定价与乐道完全重合,20万出头,乐道与小米无论在品牌还是产品上,占不到一丁点便宜。这就更加显得蔚来的品牌战略是步臭棋,好不容易花上千亿打造了蔚来品牌,等到割韭菜的时候却不用。如果用蔚来品牌推出20万出头的车型尚可一战,现在?小米把蔚来仅有的希望之光也吹灭了。
fincc
2022-10-06
$蔚来(NIO)$
随着特斯拉的短期见顶,一众新能源接下来跌回个位数应该会很丝滑了,不过特斯拉每年还有接近1000亿rmb的纯利润,而对于这些不仅不盈利还大把亏钱的新势力,股价跌回一块都不奇怪,问题是能熬过这个寒冬吗?预计接下来包括特斯拉都会开始进入需求陷阱,目前产能扩充越快的,死得越快。
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第一宗罪:换电。很多人吹嘘蔚来的核心优势是换电,在我看来换电正是蔚来的灭顶之灾。换电可以说一无是处。补能是一个体系,蔚来鼓吹的换一次电只需要5分钟,但是别忘了,换电是单任务系统,我们在考虑谁更优时,不是看一台车,是看一堆车。超充技术就算做不到10分钟充满电,现在轻松30分钟也补够了,而蔚来的换电全程要接近10分钟,比换电快吗?没意义。假如有60台车要充电,换电10分钟一台,充电30分钟一台,一个大一点的充电站都有30跟枪,那么一个充电站把100台车补满电只需要一个小时,而一个换电站把60台车换完需要10个小时。一个充电站的效率是换电站的10倍。有人也许会说:又不是只有一个换电站,没错,就算一个城市有十个换电站,也基本只相当于一个充电站的补能效率。更何况,你去另一个换电站路上不耽误时间吗?蔚来换电站的选址极其苛刻,一个城市可供建设换电站的地方很少,尤其主城区。而充电站全城市以后不知道有多少,不是一个量级。 换电完全没有优势吗?有的,在车辆还非常不普及的前提下,只要不排队,貌似是有优势的。仅此而已。考虑到换电站不像充电随时附近都有,那么算上你开车去换电站的时间,这点优势好像有点模糊? 如果换电只是个笑话,那也还好,毕竟可以去充电嘛。但是换电第一是成本高昂,为了那华而不实的东西,一个换电站的建设成本轻松超过一个大型充电站,而且养一堆人,蔚来为此付出高昂成本。第二个问题是:换电结构极大制约车身设计,不仅影响内部空间,也与当前车身电池一体化趋势违背。第三是蔚来因换电建设","text":"$蔚来(NIO)$蔚来的四宗罪与一个机会。 闲来无聊,继续说蔚来,没办法,它的关注度最高。我关注美股是因为蔚来,时至今日仍然每天关注蔚来。我不是蔚来的天然黑,曾经最看好它,如今却最不看好。 先说蔚来的五宗罪: 第一宗罪:换电。很多人吹嘘蔚来的核心优势是换电,在我看来换电正是蔚来的灭顶之灾。换电可以说一无是处。补能是一个体系,蔚来鼓吹的换一次电只需要5分钟,但是别忘了,换电是单任务系统,我们在考虑谁更优时,不是看一台车,是看一堆车。超充技术就算做不到10分钟充满电,现在轻松30分钟也补够了,而蔚来的换电全程要接近10分钟,比换电快吗?没意义。假如有60台车要充电,换电10分钟一台,充电30分钟一台,一个大一点的充电站都有30跟枪,那么一个充电站把100台车补满电只需要一个小时,而一个换电站把60台车换完需要10个小时。一个充电站的效率是换电站的10倍。有人也许会说:又不是只有一个换电站,没错,就算一个城市有十个换电站,也基本只相当于一个充电站的补能效率。更何况,你去另一个换电站路上不耽误时间吗?蔚来换电站的选址极其苛刻,一个城市可供建设换电站的地方很少,尤其主城区。而充电站全城市以后不知道有多少,不是一个量级。 换电完全没有优势吗?有的,在车辆还非常不普及的前提下,只要不排队,貌似是有优势的。仅此而已。考虑到换电站不像充电随时附近都有,那么算上你开车去换电站的时间,这点优势好像有点模糊? 如果换电只是个笑话,那也还好,毕竟可以去充电嘛。但是换电第一是成本高昂,为了那华而不实的东西,一个换电站的建设成本轻松超过一个大型充电站,而且养一堆人,蔚来为此付出高昂成本。第二个问题是:换电结构极大制约车身设计,不仅影响内部空间,也与当前车身电池一体化趋势违背。第三是蔚来因换电建设","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":2,"paper":1,"likeSize":93,"commentSize":108,"repostSize":17,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/632675504","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53129,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3562812942260421","authorId":"3562812942260421","name":"转炒新能源","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/27b060fcc9e6652c730cf2f02067fc75","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"首先是换电,明显的错误,你要知道蔚来也是可以充电的,所以,不是换电和充电比。而是换电+充电和充电比。 别的品牌30个桩,蔚来为什么只建一个换电站?它不能建30个桩和一个换电站? 不要小看那5分钟,不是人人都愿意在那等着充电的","text":"首先是换电,明显的错误,你要知道蔚来也是可以充电的,所以,不是换电和充电比。而是换电+充电和充电比。 别的品牌30个桩,蔚来为什么只建一个换电站?它不能建30个桩和一个换电站? 不要小看那5分钟,不是人人都愿意在那等着充电的","html":"首先是换电,明显的错误,你要知道蔚来也是可以充电的,所以,不是换电和充电比。而是换电+充电和充电比。 别的品牌30个桩,蔚来为什么只建一个换电站?它不能建30个桩和一个换电站? 不要小看那5分钟,不是人人都愿意在那等着充电的"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":242179781689464,"gmtCreate":1700147138458,"gmtModify":1700147140604,"author":{"id":"3518983480179242","authorId":"3518983480179242","name":"fincc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/752def79475c77ddbeaceabf192b8c5d","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$ </a>骗子公司的五大特征: 1、宏大的愿景,让人产生暴富捡漏梦想; 2、离成功永远很近,让投资者永远害怕倒在黎明前; 3、任何时候都信心满满,因为骗子往往骗的是那些缺乏自信的人; 4、对于所有热点概念都不落下,感觉很厉害,又说不出具体有什么核心能力; 5、给所有追随者以甜头,哪怕违背商业规律且不可持续。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$ </a>骗子公司的五大特征: 1、宏大的愿景,让人产生暴富捡漏梦想; 2、离成功永远很近,让投资者永远害怕倒在黎明前; 3、任何时候都信心满满,因为骗子往往骗的是那些缺乏自信的人; 4、对于所有热点概念都不落下,感觉很厉害,又说不出具体有什么核心能力; 5、给所有追随者以甜头,哪怕违背商业规律且不可持续。","text":"$蔚来(NIO)$ 骗子公司的五大特征: 1、宏大的愿景,让人产生暴富捡漏梦想; 2、离成功永远很近,让投资者永远害怕倒在黎明前; 3、任何时候都信心满满,因为骗子往往骗的是那些缺乏自信的人; 4、对于所有热点概念都不落下,感觉很厉害,又说不出具体有什么核心能力; 5、给所有追随者以甜头,哪怕违背商业规律且不可持续。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":1,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/242179781689464","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":5437,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3548236649718288","authorId":"3548236649718288","name":"美港股韭菜","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/591264d1f5db7ee1088ae142c5900fda","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"正确,贾跃亭的FF就这样","text":"正确,贾跃亭的FF就这样","html":"正确,贾跃亭的FF就这样"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":662827204,"gmtCreate":1666346452708,"gmtModify":1666346455134,"author":{"id":"3518983480179242","authorId":"3518983480179242","name":"fincc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/752def79475c77ddbeaceabf192b8c5d","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$</a>站在市场的观点来说,目前美股远未触底,加息到什么时候也还是很大的未知数,要知道上次美国经历这样的通胀,最终加息到了20%,而现在的通胀比当时还要严重。特斯拉刚过去的三季度财报单季利润33亿美金,同比增长103%,依然开启下跌,当前特斯拉的市盈率已经来到了60多。说这些没有别的,对于蔚来这样在早起就几乎陷入增长乏力,而且很长时间都看不到盈利的企业来说,随着加息和美股下行的长时间持续,几乎没有任何的支撑点,未来不短于一年的时间,依然会是持续的下跌,发行价6元绝不是结束,1-2元可能才是最终的低点。再说一次:月度销量也好,et5也好,对于蔚来的股价不会产生任何实质的影响,如果有影响也只会有一个交易日,接下来还是无尽的下跌趋势。 40元的蔚来,很多人觉得便宜了,到30的时候,感觉股市没道理,等到20的时候,怂恿别人去抄底,现在10元附近了,开始觉得自己就是那个独具慧眼的价值投资者。 现实很残酷,从现在开始买蔚来,至少还会经历两次的被腰斩。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$</a>站在市场的观点来说,目前美股远未触底,加息到什么时候也还是很大的未知数,要知道上次美国经历这样的通胀,最终加息到了20%,而现在的通胀比当时还要严重。特斯拉刚过去的三季度财报单季利润33亿美金,同比增长103%,依然开启下跌,当前特斯拉的市盈率已经来到了60多。说这些没有别的,对于蔚来这样在早起就几乎陷入增长乏力,而且很长时间都看不到盈利的企业来说,随着加息和美股下行的长时间持续,几乎没有任何的支撑点,未来不短于一年的时间,依然会是持续的下跌,发行价6元绝不是结束,1-2元可能才是最终的低点。再说一次:月度销量也好,et5也好,对于蔚来的股价不会产生任何实质的影响,如果有影响也只会有一个交易日,接下来还是无尽的下跌趋势。 40元的蔚来,很多人觉得便宜了,到30的时候,感觉股市没道理,等到20的时候,怂恿别人去抄底,现在10元附近了,开始觉得自己就是那个独具慧眼的价值投资者。 现实很残酷,从现在开始买蔚来,至少还会经历两次的被腰斩。","text":"$蔚来(NIO)$站在市场的观点来说,目前美股远未触底,加息到什么时候也还是很大的未知数,要知道上次美国经历这样的通胀,最终加息到了20%,而现在的通胀比当时还要严重。特斯拉刚过去的三季度财报单季利润33亿美金,同比增长103%,依然开启下跌,当前特斯拉的市盈率已经来到了60多。说这些没有别的,对于蔚来这样在早起就几乎陷入增长乏力,而且很长时间都看不到盈利的企业来说,随着加息和美股下行的长时间持续,几乎没有任何的支撑点,未来不短于一年的时间,依然会是持续的下跌,发行价6元绝不是结束,1-2元可能才是最终的低点。再说一次:月度销量也好,et5也好,对于蔚来的股价不会产生任何实质的影响,如果有影响也只会有一个交易日,接下来还是无尽的下跌趋势。 40元的蔚来,很多人觉得便宜了,到30的时候,感觉股市没道理,等到20的时候,怂恿别人去抄底,现在10元附近了,开始觉得自己就是那个独具慧眼的价值投资者。 现实很残酷,从现在开始买蔚来,至少还会经历两次的被腰斩。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":2,"paper":1,"likeSize":31,"commentSize":14,"repostSize":7,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/662827204","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":24673,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3540965151568136","authorId":"3540965151568136","name":"Boxer向前跑","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/db186ef0281ccdc1ea5f8fc37b928bdb","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"张嘴就来啊,查一下相关数据美国加息至20%的时候,当时是恶性通胀,CPI年率达到惊人的14%,现在CPI月率也没到10%啊,年率更不会到10%","text":"张嘴就来啊,查一下相关数据美国加息至20%的时候,当时是恶性通胀,CPI年率达到惊人的14%,现在CPI月率也没到10%啊,年率更不会到10%","html":"张嘴就来啊,查一下相关数据美国加息至20%的时候,当时是恶性通胀,CPI年率达到惊人的14%,现在CPI月率也没到10%啊,年率更不会到10%"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":204267119186136,"gmtCreate":1690901238189,"gmtModify":1690901239332,"author":{"id":"3518983480179242","authorId":"3518983480179242","name":"fincc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/752def79475c77ddbeaceabf192b8c5d","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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8、9月的交付量才是蔚来相对真实的水平,我不认为能稳定过2万。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/204267119186136","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1078,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"127965840282720","authorId":"127965840282720","name":"悟空888","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"别删,月底看结果","text":"别删,月底看结果","html":"别删,月底看结果"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":638742125,"gmtCreate":1645543990069,"gmtModify":1645662768354,"author":{"id":"3518983480179242","authorId":"3518983480179242","name":"fincc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/752def79475c77ddbeaceabf192b8c5d","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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