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不高兴的小欣
2023-12-02
$美团-W(03690)$
说个笑话,美团科学家,张jm……
不高兴的小欣
10-14
$美团-W(03690)$
沪港通都快卖没了,貌似降到了几年的低点,散户基本上出了70%
不高兴的小欣
01-31
$商汤-W(00020)$
也不算超跌,大家都跌90%了
不高兴的小欣
11-15 15:44
$京东集团-SW(09618)$
一场火灾烧光了京东
不高兴的小欣
11-12
$美团-W(03690)$
三天暴跌17%
不高兴的小欣
2023-12-22
$网易(NTES)$
网易是真强啊,美股这都能拉回来
不高兴的小欣
10-18
$京东集团-SW(09618)$
我只知道,要远离经常树人设和经常秀的企业家。做企业赚钱天经地义,但天天出境一定没好事
不高兴的小欣
2023-12-22
$腾讯控股(00700)$
不过话说回来,游戏公司市值这么高确实不符合国情,打压也没问题
不高兴的小欣
2022-02-19
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
会在一年半跌到300多
不高兴的小欣
2022-01-27
$恒生科技指数(HSTECH)$
明摆着 巨头公司国家队要抄底入股 防止资本无x扩张 总不能直接抢吧所以只能让它降下来。
不高兴的小欣
2023-12-19
$美团-W(03690)$
接下来速度会很快,不会一点点跌了。会非常快的穿70。
不高兴的小欣
2022-10-11
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
钢体洛希极限要突破了
不高兴的小欣
11-08
$美团-W(03690)$
小米翻多少倍了,携程历史新高了,腾讯也在历史分位60%,再看看抖音估值都1.5个腾讯了,网易这种平淡股,最近出这么大事,也在高点60%分位,更不用说拼多多,美团不仅远弱于大部分互联网大厂,甚至连恒科大盘也不如。为什么一堆人吹来吹去?殊不知大陆港股通持仓已经从18%降到了10%。散户远离美团。往好了说就跟大盘,坏了无底线,明显收益风险不成比例。
不高兴的小欣
01-10
$美团-W(03690)$
不明白美团很多部门,连续好几年没有业务起色,老板们都能活的很滋润,王兴是慈善家吗?很多比如广告业务,这么垃圾的产出。这在其他企业是不可想象的,拼多多抖音1年半业绩不翻倍直接老板滚蛋。抖音的4-1极难做稳一般都是2年准出局。想不到美团的老板竟然可以在毫无产出的情况下稳坐钓鱼台5年以上。每年一线互联网的业绩要求都是要翻倍增长的,完不成老板滚蛋的,美团真是内部过的太轻松了。
不高兴的小欣
2022-03-11
$恒生科技指数(HSTECH)$
几个月前说底在3900可能真的说中了 拭目以待
不高兴的小欣
2022-02-22
$美团-W(03690)$
会像教育行业一样死掉吗
不高兴的小欣
2022-01-14
$恒生科技指数(HSTECH)$
一年内 最终会跌倒2900点 中钙会在现在基础上再夭折60% 你们这么前赴后继的送钱 图个啥
不高兴的小欣
2022-12-05
$美团ADR(MPNGY)$
22年全中概股最惨的 没有之一
不高兴的小欣
2022-03-14
$恒生科技指数(HSTECH)$
归零者你好
不高兴的小欣
2022-01-05
$拼多多(PDD)$
会跌倒20
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start;\">在截至2024年9月30日的第二财季,阿里巴巴共回购了4.14亿股普通股(相当于5200万股美国存托股),总计41亿美元。截至2024年9月30日,阿里巴巴有186.2亿股普通股(相当于23.27亿股美国存托股)在外流通,与2024年6月30日相比净减少4.05亿股普通股,在计入员工持股计划下发行的股份后,已发行股份净减少2.1%。截至2024年9月30日,董事会授权的股票回购计划(有效期至2027年3月)的剩余金额为220亿美元。</p><p><strong>高管解读</strong></p><p>阿里巴巴集团CEO吴泳铭表示,“本季度,淘天业务持续对用户体验进行投入,丰富产品供给,以更好服务消费者。我们与科技同业建立长期合作,拓展淘宝和天猫平台上的支付和物流服务,预期对平台整体带来显著增量效应。”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>阿里巴巴第二财季营收2365亿元同比增长5%,经调净利润365亿元</title>\n<style 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src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/404E4179347A0528AD11EB28BE50792E07DDB323_size386_w830_h554.png\"/></p><p>但放在当下节点,两家公司对大模型应用的探索,更值得行业审视和思考。</p><p>OpenAI的AI搜索功能一经上线,就被众多一线用户发现其搜索结果依然难逃幻觉困境。如何将大模型带出幻觉陷阱?</p><p>作为老牌搜索巨头的百度,带来了自己的新答案:借助RAG(Retrieval-augmented Generation)解决了文字幻觉后,百度又盯上了图像幻觉,并为后者量身打造了一项独门秘术——iRAG(检索增强文生图技术,image based RAG),将百度搜索的亿级图片资源跟强大的基础模型能力相结合,以此来确保生成的图片更加真实,贴近自然。</p><p>更重要的是,<strong>唯有解决了大模型的幻觉问题,才能让更多人愿意并敢于用大模型技术。</strong>智能体,则成了百度撬动更多普通用户触及大模型技术的重磅应用方向。</p><p>相比OpenAI希望通过搜索持续增强自身变现能力,加码智能体的百度,不仅自己赚钱,还想让人人都能赚到钱,继续构筑AI应用生态,“我们不是要推出一个‘超级应用’,而是要不断地帮助更多人、更多企业打造出数以百万‘超级有用’的应用。”李彦宏说道。</p><p>尽管全球几乎所有大模型玩家都在关注智能体,但正如李彦宏所言,像百度这样把智能体作为最重要战略方向的公司并不多。强如OpenAI,也选择了在今年3月份,关停仅运营两个月的智能体应用商店GPT Store。</p><p>在ChatGPT推出两年来,时间曾屡次证明李彦宏的部分非共识,逐一衍化为了行业新共识,如对检索增强的率先重视、卷应用的倡议等。</p><p>这一次,高喊智能体会是AI应用最主流形态等非共识论断的李彦宏,还能再次成功吗?</p><p><img 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Thing时刻——对外展示了大模型技术落地的无代码产品秒哒,</strong>号称是一个不需要写代码就能够实现任意想法的软件,被李彦宏称之为“迄今为止人类历史上最复杂的多智能体协作工具”。</p><p><strong>智能体完成大模型从“言”到“行”能力突破的背后,离不开其基础大模型能力的迭代进步。</strong></p><p>具体到百度自身,早在2019年,百度就推出了1亿参数规模的文心大模型1.0版本,随后又在2.0版本升级至10亿参数,ChatGPT发布后不久,百度就抢先推出了3.0版本,并在去年10月迭代到4.0版本。</p><p>近日,沙利文发布报告《2024年全球AI生态全景概览》,在全球AI生态全景中,百度与<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>、OpenAI位于AI-Native Giant同一象限。</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/F9EE3D355ED49136B613816D7283A9CF3EE9426E_size230_w732_h895.png\"/></p><p>在被问及百度为何能以如此快的速度发布大模型时,李彦宏曾回答道,“是因为我们准备得更加充足、工程师非常努力,我们一直在朝着这个方向努力。长期的信念,让我们为这样的颠覆性创新做好了准备。”</p><p>能够持续推动技术迭代的另一助力,则来自百度多年来对全球AI人才的招揽,包括吴恩达、Dario Amodei、Jim Fan等一批行业大牛。</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/EA59C7BAF6B1228D467A79D74E7A520C0AC3BDAF_size655_w1080_h1080.png\"/></p><p>作为前百度首席科学家,吴恩达在百度期间带领百度人工智能团队增长至1300多人,帮助百度培养出大量AI人才。</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/C1B90C251D5C21CB2B7EF5BA436B08F379A368B1_size6_w681_h681.png\"/></p><p>但技术迭代和顶尖人才招募背后都需要真金白银打底,这都迫使身处大模型领域的厂商,必须尽快走向商业化。</p><p><strong>那些实力不济的大模型玩家,在这场烧钱游戏中,或者被淘汰出局,或者被大厂收编。</strong>波形智能卖身OPPO的案例,成了这一残酷竞争的最新注脚。更早之前,明星创企Inflection、Character.AI、AI Agent独角兽企业Adept,纷纷迎来被大公司变相收购的命运。</p><p>商业化手段有限,叠加大模型训练和推理费用高昂,入不敷出的国内部分头部大模型玩家,此前甚至被传出退出预训练的消息。即便不想放弃预训练,一些大模型玩家也开始转变策略,开始放弃在国内烧钱做To C市场的策略,转向全力发展更容易见到回头钱的ToB领域。</p><p><strong>竞争激烈的大模型赛道,或主动或被动地演变为一场超头部创企和大厂之间的比拼。</strong>尤为不容忽视的是,当其他玩家对预训练有所畏惧之时,手握资源的超头部创企和大厂,反而获得了意料之外的优势。</p><p>在近期接受一档播客节目采访时,OpenAI CEO山姆·奥特曼就提道,模型已经成为一项贬值资产是不争的事实,“但说它们不值得花那么多钱来训练,这似乎完全错了。更不用说它们有一个正向复利效应。随着你越来越擅长训练模型,你会变得更高效。至于通过模型获得的收入,我认为这足以证明投资是值得的。”</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/40D8664256E29BF634738D87B713943FF10FDEE4_size102_w1080_h608.jpg\"/></p><p>李彦宏此前也表露过类似的观点。在他看来,模型之间的差距是多维度的,既包括能力方面,也包括成本方面,且“未来大模型之间的差距会越来越大,领先对手6个月就赢了。”</p><p>随着大模型逐渐进入巨头游戏阶段,红杉资本在《Generative AI's Act o1: The Agentic Reasoning Era Begins》(生成式AI的o1行动:代理推理时代的开启)报告中指出,生成式人工智能产业的根基正在稳定下来。只有自造血能力充足,且资本雄厚的大玩家才能留在牌桌上。尽管市场竞争还远没结束(按博弈论来讲,甚至将越来越激烈),玩家格局却越来越清晰起来。</p><p>基于此,红杉资本预测,<strong>应用层正成为风险投资的关注焦点。</strong>类比移动互联网转型和云计算转型期间,应用层大约都有20家公司创造了超过10亿美元的收入,“我们预计AI转型期也会出现同样的情况。”</p><p>早于红杉资本预言前,当2023年3月16日,百度终于赶在所有国内厂商前面,率先发布文心一言时,李彦宏就对外首度明确,“大模型时代,真正最大的机会既不在基础服务,也不在行业服务,我觉得恰恰是在应用。”</p><p>从去年3月16日文心一言正式亮相至今,过去近600天时间内,李彦宏带领百度成为推动AI应用落地的最强有力声音,“卷模型不如卷应用”“卷应用更有价值”等言论被频频提及。</p><p>从商业化变现的角度出发,卷应用,也是更能发挥中国创业者优势的领域。这样的实践经验,已经在PC时代和移动互联网时代屡次被证实。</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/12D89E5EC68EE6B2A9D3B9075361E3DC8DC4F496_size8_w681_h681.png\"/></p><p><strong>考</strong><strong>验和挑战再一次摆到了基础大模型厂商面前——谁能在应用生态建设上更胜一筹,谁就有望成为下一个Android。</strong></p><p>在应用生态建设上,没有移动互联网超级应用傍身的OpenAI,在今年1月上线GPT store后,很快便遭遇热度难以为继的困境。</p><p>掌握搜索这一生成式AI最重要入口的百度,则在智能体的分发和运营上占据了一定优势。</p><p>据字母榜(ID:wujicaijing)了解,<strong>百度搜索目前是智能体最大的分发入口,目前每天分发智能体数量超过1000万,并且还在快速增长。</strong></p><p>借助百度APP近7亿月活用户所带来的规模效应,百度在帮助普通人开发出智能体之外,还构筑起了一个覆盖“开发+分发+运营+变现”的商业闭环。</p><p>为了做好智能体应用的分发,百度还打通了智能体在百度搜索、小度、文小言、地图、车机等多场景、多设备的流转落地,从而在做到人人可开发的基础上,更进一步实现人人能分发、人人可获益的新目标。</p><p><img src=\"https://x0.ifengimg.com/ucms/2024_46/9DF09C58D5E96FE6BEF650DD9310D874F88FC362_size489_w831_h467.png\"/></p><p>值得一提的是,手握智能云云服务的百度,比OpenAI这类单纯的大模型公司,还可以提供更多维度的服务。目前,百度智能云千帆大模型平台帮助客户精调模型数达到3.3万个,并合计开发了77万个企业应用,有六成以上的央国企和大量的民营企业,都在联合百度智能云进行AI创新。</p><p>大会期间,百度还展示了大模型在B端的应用。</p><p>以保险行业为例,目前百度智能云基于工作流Agent探索、落地车险续保售前数字员工。过去,车险续保的工作指导包含大量流程、子流程、文档等内容,优秀销售人员稀缺,且培养周期往往长达一到两年。</p><p>基于工作流Agent开发金牌销售数字员工,则最快可以在1小时内完成、上线,大幅提升了企业车险业务的核心生产力。这样的工作流Agent可以快速集成到百度搜索、微信公众号、企业官网等业务系统中,便利触达用户。</p><p>在刚刚结束的金九银十招聘季,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZPIN\">智联招聘</a>便联手百度,利用后者的大模型重构了人岗匹配这个核心环节,从而显著提高用人单位的招聘效率和质量。</p><p>目前,百度和智联招聘合作,已经成功沉淀出一系列提示词模板,并在数万条实际数据中得到验证,场景平均准确率高达93%。</p><p>同样不容忽视的是,AI业务还能间接拉动云厂商的营收。B端客户在使用大模型的同时,会积累大量的业务数据,并产生大量资源需求,这都有利于推动智能云(GPU)相关产品的销售。</p><p>多样化的分发场景,和更多用户的使用,除了提升云服务收入之外,更能起到帮助智能体获得数据反馈,反过来进一步推动基础模型自主调优,从而让大模型变得更智能,并使得智能体越用越聪明的效果。</p><p>一如通过RAG消除大模型幻觉,刺激更多用户使用一样,只有更聪明的智能体,才能吸引到更多的人真正使用起来。当用的人逐渐变多,李彦宏口中“智能体即将迎来爆发点”的判断,才有望越早到来。</p></body></html>","source":"fenghuang_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>OpenAI变深,百度变宽</title>\n<style 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src=\"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEXy8vJkA4prAAAACklEQVQI12NgAAAAAgAB4iG8MwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==\"/></p><p>快团团是2020年拼多多推出的一款销售工具,一度被看作是拼多多入局社区团购的重要尝试。</p><p>然而,与美团优选等平台有所区别的是,快团团本身不提供商品,团长可以对接拼多多商家,或自行上架产品。一位食品领域供应商曾告诉“界面新闻”,快团团其实是延续“社群运营”思路。数据显示,2020年,快团团的交易额处于100亿元的水平。</p><p>得益于庞大的微信生态,仅在推出一年后,快团团便迅速崛起,跻身行业领先地位。公开数据显示,2021年,快团团在微信社群团购小程序中跃居首位,实现了600亿GMV,覆盖团长数超200万人。2021年11月,一位上海的团长曾接受“21世纪经济报道”记者采访时表示,从3月开始做团购,起初一个月的10万元流水,现在的月流水200多万元,净利润率大概在10%。</p><p>根据《2023年私域电商快团团行业洞察报告》数据显示,2022年快团团GMV接近1500亿元,几乎占据快团模式半壁江山,拥有500万团长。</p><p>2023年上半年,快团团还开启本地生活招商,并陆续上线了餐饮美食、游玩住宿、休闲娱乐、丽人美发和生活服务等本地生活商品,对美团、饿了么等本地生活平台构成了不容忽视的竞争压力。呱呱爆品公布的快团团2023年月均销售额分布数据显示,TOP500的团长月销售额超过了100万元。</p><p><img src=\"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEXy8vJkA4prAAAACklEQVQI12NgAAAAAgAB4iG8MwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==\"/></p><p>为了进一步规范团购业态,确保团员资金安全和权益得到保障,2023年7月快团团发布公告,对订单提现规则进行调整,设立订单保护期,自此团长提取资金的流程变得更为“严谨”。</p><p>此外,快团团官方公众号内容还显示,当“团长”的提现金额达到一定数额后,系统会自动进入审核流程;当监测到团购存在履约风险,系统会进入自动审核流程,团长不能即刻提现。还有团长表示,快团团对其进行风险评估,每日使用货款余额的额度限制为一万元。</p><p>业内相关人士的分析,快团团此次调整,可能是针对部分团长携款潜逃、团员遭受欺诈等问题所做出的应对策略,以充分保证消费者权益。</p><p>然而今年7月,“消费电子杂志社”曾披露快团团团长失联的问题,涉及的款项可能高达数千万元。</p><p><img src=\"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABAQMAAAAl21bKAAAAA1BMVEXy8vJkA4prAAAACklEQVQI12NgAAAAAgAB4iG8MwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==\"/></p><p>据了解,有消费者发现被骗后尝试联系快团团客服,但客服始终强调快团团仅具备工具属性,为团长发布团购提供技术支持,建议联系拼多多客服,而拼多多客服则让她再次联系快团团。客服间的推诿,形成了一个完整的闭环。</p><p>谈到定位为工具的快团团是否有权强制冻结用户资金的问题时,广东格林律师事务所杨河律师向“消费电子杂志社”表示,一般情况下,销售工具没有直接的法律授权冻结用户的资金,但如果用户同意了相关的服务协议,平台可能会依据这些协议来执行冻结操作;也有可能平台会基于风险控制的需要,在检测到交易风险或用户投诉时采取冻结资金的措施。</p><p><strong>消</strong>费保投诉平台数据显示,与快团团相关的投诉案件数量呈现出逐年攀升的趋势。既然团长携款失联和无法提现的问题均会出现,足以证明快团团亟需完善其系统,以确保所有参与者的合法权益能够得到有效保护。</p></body></html>","source":"ifeng_tech","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>拼多多的快团团提现难,团长资金安全谁来守护?</title>\n<style 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