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- niumengniumeng
  ·2021-01-30
  相同条件，顾客更愿意选台积电，因为他不是顾客的竞争对手
  全球第二的三星，遇上全球第一的台积电，营收差距不是一星半点
  最近两家厂商相继发布2020年第四季度财报，从中可以看出，全球第二的三星遇上全球第一的台积电，营收差距不是一星半点。根据台积电公布详细数据来看，截止至2020年第四季度，台积电20%的营收都是5nm产线贡献，7nm及以上工艺产线对台积电的营收贡献已经超过了50%。而目前市场上，只有台积电能达到这一标准。综合来看，台积电能在代工业务上领先三星并不是没有道理。短期来看，台积电将会一直压制着三星。
  全球第二的三星，遇上全球第一的台积电，营收差距不是一星半点
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- niumengniumeng
  ·2021-01-21
  这就不是一场不平等竞争，因为市场管控，中国就是个抽水机，全球化利于中国，却不利于市场经济国家。
  非常抱歉，此主贴已删除
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