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- 甜甜甜91甜甜甜91
  ·2022-05-12
  真是太心寒了，之前那么看好，现在这个样....
  子品牌即将上线，能否搬走蔚来身上的“大山”？
  5月10日，“合肥发布”的一则消息曝光了蔚来全新品牌的动态。如今，子品牌正式迎来“上线时间”。交付量“失速”、疫情期供应链频频中断、创办8年仍未盈利等，无一不是一座座压在蔚来身上的大山。早在2020年财报会议上，李斌就透露过“进入大众市场是蔚来的长期战略”。在建立子品牌之前，蔚来也作出过自己的尝试。在2021年7月，蔚来被曝将推出独立于蔚来的副品牌，类似于奥迪-大众、雷克萨斯-丰田的关系。
  子品牌即将上线，能否搬走蔚来身上的“大山”？
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- 甜甜甜91甜甜甜91
  ·2022-05-09
  😭
  美股低开低走，纳指跌幅扩大至3%
  5月9日，美股低开低走，纳指跌幅扩大至3%。特斯拉跌超6%，亚马逊跌近3%。纳斯达克中国金龙指数跌幅扩大至7%，哔哩哔哩、京东、理想汽车、小鹏汽车跌近10%；知乎跌12%，水滴跌超21%。
  美股低开低走，纳指跌幅扩大至3%
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- 甜甜甜91甜甜甜91
  ·2022-05-09
  这是要血洗么😭
  非常抱歉，此主贴已删除
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- 甜甜甜91甜甜甜91
  ·2021-12-03
  $Grab Holdings(GRAB)$还有机会涨么？太惨了
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- 甜甜甜91甜甜甜91
  ·2021-12-02
  $Grab Holdings(GRAB)$年都过不好了
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3/Y。蔚来也是如此，最早期通过电动方程式赛车和超跑EP9，进行核心技术储备并树立品牌形象， 然后逐步往下切入到量产车型。实际上，从去年年底发布的ET5身上，已经能看到蔚来下探市场的用意。作为蔚来有史以来最便宜的入门级新车，ET5补贴前起售价32.8万元，BaaS（电池租用服务）方案补贴前起售价更是下探至25.8万元。这个售价超出了大家的预期，发布后很快引发疯抢。因为订单太多，蔚来App一度被“搞趴下十几分钟”。但蔚来的高端定位并不允许其将价格下探更多。与特斯拉不同的是，李斌认为一个品牌能承载的价格带有限，再往下推出更平价的车型，就需要另起炉灶。早在2020年财报会议上，李斌就透露过“进入大众市场是蔚来的长期战略”。这一步并不让人意外，因为无论汽车行业怎么变，规模化永远是最根本的竞争力。在建立子品牌之前，蔚来也作出过自己的尝试。蔚来在2017年先后与长安、广汽达成合作，也是有意建立新品牌，与蔚来现有的定位错开，覆盖不同的市场区间。但合资项目因为种种原因进展并不顺利，蔚来最终决定“单干”进入大众化市场。在2021年7月，蔚来被曝将推出独立于蔚来的副品牌，类似于奥迪-大众、雷克萨斯-丰田的关系。在人才搭建上，有消息传出前WeWork大中华区总经理艾铁成已经加盟蔚来，出任战略新业务副总裁，直接向蔚来CEO李斌汇报。“艾铁成是蔚来总裁秦力洪好友，在WeWork之前曾担任上海迪士尼度假区市场部副总裁一职，WeWork此前在迪士尼运营，所以艾铁成在用户体验方面颇有心得。”知情人士透露，”艾铁成同时也是蔚来ES8创始版车主。“虽然独立运营，但为了两个品牌协同共进，车市物语获悉，蔚来已于今年3月任命上海公司总经理夏庆华兼任战略新业务的用户运营与服务运营相关工作负责人，向艾铁成汇报。同时，夏庆华也向秦力洪汇报。“子品牌的核心人员，大都来自于通用系，包括研发总监和VP级别。”蔚来内部人士对车市物语透露。至此，子品牌的班子已初步搭建完毕，正按着蔚来的节奏一步步走。“虽然子品牌将会分流一部分人力和资源，但蔚来汽车子品牌是一次必要的冒险。”一位汽车行业分析人士称。02 时也，顺也？一年之前，蔚来在新造车“组队集训”、“淘汰赛”前两个阶段中，有惊无险地走到了行业前三的位置，跟自身的高端化路线紧密相关，恰好踩中了新能源市场“两头大、中间小”的发展势头。但“高低两头吃香”的局面不会一直存在，近期蔚来销量疲惫已证实了这一点。自2021年7月起，蔚来就丢失了新势力交付冠军宝座，到今年开年前4个月，蔚来连续跌出交付榜前三，甚至被哪吒、零跑等二线新势力所超越。近2个月的“失速”很大一部分原因来自供应链短缺。4月9日，李斌表示，受疫情影响，自3月份以来，该公司位于吉林、上海、江苏等多地的供应链合作伙伴陆续停产，由于上述原因，近期不少用户的车辆会推迟交付。但这是整个行业的共性问题，真正造成蔚来增速放缓的原因，来源于较高的单车售价。早前，李斌就谈及“蔚来平均售价为43.37万元人民币，比宝马、奥迪的平均售价都高”。潜台词是，高售价的同时，也将一部分消费者挡在了门外。放眼整体汽车市场，10-20万元的新车消费基本占了近50%的市场，是最大的主力消费区间。而蔚来现在所处的30万-50万元市场，占整体消费结构不到10%。更具价格优势的比亚迪、广汽埃安等逐渐吃下了中间地带消费者对于新能源车的需求，还有大众ID.系列、齐发新车的日系品牌在虎视眈眈。随着新能源市场日渐成熟，车市会进入以核心价值区间为中心的新一轮竞争周期。这意味着市场结构终究会像燃油车那样，从当下的“哑铃型”向“纺锤型”结构转型。10万-20万元区间市场份额会逐渐扩大，最终成为主流市场。另一方面，新能源汽车赛道的下半场是自动驾驶，需要大量的研发投入和数据采集。理想汽车CEO李想有言，“2025年要占据中国新能源车市场的20%份额（约160万辆），从而拿到自动驾驶竞争时代的入场门票，”也透露了对规模化的冲锋。对于蔚来而言，2021年年初已经发布了NAD订阅计划，显然希望未来的营收增长点建立在广泛用户流量的基础之上。无论是基于销量增长还是自动驾驶布局，蔚来都已经到了从高端产品线向覆盖更多市场转移的时刻。值得注意的是，蔚来在2021年财报会上提到，2024年会实现盈亏平衡。这个时间刚好也是子品牌投产的节点。蔚来寄望于在维持毛利水平的基础上，通过不断扩充产品，在量产车型中放大技术优势，从而支撑蔚来的销量提升，进一步摊薄研发成本等投入，从而实现盈亏平衡乃至盈利。03 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