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弃用宁德时代，苹果造车依旧强势

36氪2021-07-21

Apple Car的轮廓正越来越清晰。根据DigiTimes Asia报道，苹果正遴选Apple Car的电池供应商，宁德时代、比亚迪都在谈判名单中。但苹果坚持要用美国产的电池，如果宁德时代和比亚迪不愿意在美国建厂，或许无法入选。苹果已经开始将目光转向愿意在美国设厂的富士康和立凯电能。苹果造车终于有了些实质性进展。比起iPhone一年迭代一次，苹果造车历程可谓漫长。根据熟悉苹果的分析师郭明錤在...

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·2021-07-21
看好苹果
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kelvinlim
·2021-07-21
这篇文章不错，转发给大家看
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·2021-07-21
苹果也造车？应该也会很抢手！
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