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汽车工业协会专家：特斯拉行车数据不可信，存在篡改可能

三言财经2021-04-23

三言财经4月23日消息，据腾讯科技报道，汽车工业协会信息委员会秘书长朱伟华今日就特斯拉公布的行车数据发表观点。朱伟华表示，目前公开的行车数据说明车主踩刹车时机较晚，责任在于司机而不在特斯拉。但朱伟华称，特斯拉提供的数据自己并不采信。首先，这份数据是否来自涉事汽车，而非通过技术手段如“写一段程序”“创造”出来。所有数据理应有时间戳，并且该时间戳应可以让第三方验证。时间戳不应由特斯拉自行加，且只有...

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antonyye
·2021-04-23
我们的专家是不是专家最值得怀疑...。
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路虎1
·2021-04-23
你是特斯拉，你敢篡改吗！现在是什么形式！它要窜改那不是找死吗！真是笑话！专家！！！这样没脑子的专家你也信？
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路虎1
·2021-04-23
放屁！？
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Jason_poon
·2021-04-23
说话看似有理，其实就像放屁
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