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What Tesla’s bet on iron-based batteries means for manufacturers

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Elon Musk earlier this week made his most bullish statements yet on iron-based batteries, noting that Tesla is making a “long-term shift” toward older, cheaper lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) cells in ...

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Ianer
·2021-07-29
Battle of raw materials. I even think the reason why China push for EV is considering how the batteries raw materials are heavily sourced from China.
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·2021-07-29
Looking forward. Please like and comment
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·2021-07-29
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·2021-07-29
Ok
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·2021-07-29
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·2021-07-29
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·2021-07-29
Good read.
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Battery chemistries outside of China have been predominantly nickel-based -- specifically nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC) and nickel-cobalt-aluminum (NCA). These newer chemistries have become attractive to automakers due to their higher energy density, letting original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) improve the range of their batteries.\nIf Musk's bullishness is heralding a genuine shift across the EV industry, the question is whether battery makers outside of China will be able to keep up.\nMusk is not the only automotive executive to signal a return to the LFP formula. Earlier this year, Ford CEO Jim Farley said the company would use LFP batteries in some commercial vehicles. 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This consortium came to an agreement with Chinese battery makers a decade ago under which the manufacturers would not be charged a licensing fee providing that the LFP batteries were used only in Chinese markets.\nHence, China cornered the LFP market.\nBattery makers in China may benefit most from a potential tectonic shift toward LFP -- specifically BYD and CATL, the latter of which already manufactures LFP batteries for Tesla vehicles built and sold in China. (Volkswagen, meanwhile, has a substantial stake in Chinese LFP maker Gotion High-Tech.) These battery makers aren’t slowing down: In January, CATL and Shenzhen Dynanonic signed an agreement with a local Chinese province to build an LFP cathode plant at a cost of $280 million over three years.\nThe LFP patents are due to expire in 2022, industry analystRoskill explains, which could give battery manufacturers outside China time to start shifting some of their production toward iron-based formulas. 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Many consumers will likely be content with a 200- to 250-mile-range vehicle that's thousands of dollars cheaper than one with a range of 300 to 350 miles.\nAutomakers have also begun making moves to take control of the battery supply, whether through vertical manufacturing or joint ventures with established battery companies. 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