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墨菲
2020-04-22
$老虎证券(TIGR)$
老虎的新功能,平均成本4.19,看来我还需要买点降降成本。
墨菲
2020-03-19
$美高梅(MGM)$
又停牌了?卧槽,感觉要爆发似的
墨菲
2020-03-19
$美高梅(MGM)$
停牌是为毛?
墨菲
2018-11-16
$红黄蓝(RYB)$ 看的很多人对红黄蓝暴跌的一片狂欢,我感觉些许的悲伤,我们这些投资的或者炒股的,竟然很多不相信市场的力量,不理解场只有市场、唯有市场是解决优质服务供应的最廉价渠道,不希望重演滴滴顺风车被杀死的悲剧。想起两本本书——《雍众的胜利》与《乌合之众》。
墨菲
2018-11-15
$红黄蓝(RYB)$ 凑热闹
墨菲
2017-08-22
怎么不按时公布财报?
$达内科技(TEDU)$不是说好盘后公布财报吗?@泥奏凯
怎么不按时公布财报?
墨菲
2017-07-19
流行晒空凑个热闹
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$看到150。
流行晒空凑个热闹
墨菲
2017-07-05
百度无人驾驶出来了,大家怎么看?
我认为,未来的智能汽车最可能的模式是:百度、谷歌、苹果之类的公司定义操作系统➕系统级软件,传统厂商按照体统接口生产硬件,一堆应用厂商提供各种应用。大概会演绎PC时代进化路子。
百度无人驾驶出来了,大家怎么看?
墨菲
2017-07-04
特斯拉最近的跌势只是反应了科技股的走弱
$特斯拉(TSLA)$虽然我是特斯拉的坚定空方,但认为拐点不可判断,特斯拉最近的优势只是反应了市场对科技股高估值的普遍忧虑。英伟达、京东、AMD、亚马逊这些热门股中,特斯拉并不是跌幅最大的。
特斯拉最近的跌势只是反应了科技股的走弱
墨菲
2017-07-04
小散一定要知道的投资真相
我们小散万里无一能够持有一家公司5年以上,短期内股价波动幅度远远超过企业经营状况的波动。因此,一定要知道如下真相:伟大的公司不一定值得投资,例如谷歌、阿里、腾讯、亚马逊;下行的公司也未必不值的投资,例如:搜狐、梅西百货之类。大部分时候,决定投资输赢的是判断价值、大势、与购买价格。千万牢记、千万牢记、千万牢记。本人保证,并无持有上述公司股票。
小散一定要知道的投资真相
墨菲
2017-07-02
《特斯拉故伎重演,谁会为马斯克买单?》
“特斯拉还未与相关主体签署任何合资协议。”6月23日,针对特斯拉将在上海国产的传闻,特斯拉中国对经济观察报记者如是回复。这个回复着实让人感到意外。6月22日,一张摆有上海市政府和特斯拉桌牌的签约会议照片开始疯传,这张被视为特斯拉落户上海签约现场图片的流出,让特斯拉将在上海国产的消息看上去像真的。在多家的媒体的报道中,特斯拉在上海国产这件事已经被认为是板上钉钉。随后,国产的细节被传出,上海电气[股评]集团股份有限公司(以下简称上海电气)在上海临港开发区组建合资公司。受该消息驱动,当日上海电气(02727)股价一度跳涨11%,上海临港(600848.SH)涨停。然而,仅仅到了晚间,剧情就出现了反转。6月22日晚,上海临港发布澄清公告:截止目前,上海临港没有与特斯拉公司进行过接触,也没有和特斯拉在中国建厂的事宜有合作意向,而且没有签署任何协议。次日,上海电气集团同样发布澄清公告,否认与特斯拉合作事宜。两则公告让特斯拉国产之事一下子就迷雾重重。特斯拉到底是不是要国产了?如果一切都还没有谈好,那张摆有上海市政府和特斯拉桌牌签约会议照片的流出,到底是无意为之还是刻意放出?答案无从知晓。但从这次的乌龙背后,推测出特斯拉与上海市政府之间还在博弈。近一两年来,特斯拉在中国建厂的消息源源不断地涌现,上海、苏州、合肥等城市曾相继被预测为选址地。2016年6月,就有传闻称“上海金桥集团已经与特斯拉签署不具备约束力的备忘录,双方将会合作在上海建设生产设施”,但随后上海金桥就发布公告澄清了此事。而经济观察报记者也获悉,截止到目前,深圳仍然出现在特斯拉的谈判名单中。这样的“套路”并不陌生。当初特斯拉为了在美国建设超级电池工厂(Gi-gafactory),其创始人埃隆·马斯克(ElonMusk)用尽手段,利用其本人的影响力、项目的就业机会和财政税收等诱惑,美国至少七个州参与疯狂竞标,最终特斯拉从美国内华达
《特斯拉故伎重演,谁会为马斯克买单?》
墨菲
2017-06-29
特斯拉跌到目标位
$特斯拉(TSLA)$从380一路过来,心理压力太大,获利走人定定神,model3量产消息发布前继续空。
特斯拉跌到目标位
墨菲
2017-06-27
特斯拉model3能成功吗?
$特斯拉(TSLA)$都强调特斯拉是骑车届的苹果,苹果几乎收割了手机里所有的高端用户。然后,即便是苹果,也有兵败SE的时候,从品牌认知的角度,这是两类人群,彼此不一样用一样的产品。所以,丰田、大众、戴姆勒、丰田、本田、日产,都把高端和普通车当做两个单独的品牌与企业来经营。所以,如果model3不成功呢,特斯拉很麻烦,如果model3成功了,我相信,会影响它高端定位的美誉度,从而影响models与modelx的用户选择,依然不是好事。还有,苹果几乎是手机领域唯一的高端品牌,但是汽车领域,高端品牌不下20个,特斯拉充其量算其一,绝无独占高端市场的能力。总之,特斯拉不错,但,不是手机届的苹果。
特斯拉model3能成功吗?
墨菲
2017-06-25
我做空特斯拉的思考逻辑
我在**上敲了一篇我做空特斯拉的思考,有兴趣的朋友可以看看,貌似不能直接转过来,我只能粘贴地址了:https://**.com/9211874871/87773947
我做空特斯拉的思考逻辑
墨菲
2017-06-24
为自己的判断负责的交易者都值得尊重
$特斯拉(TSLA)$,成年人世界的天条就是:自己选择,承担代价,半年期看空特斯拉到300以下。
为自己的判断负责的交易者都值得尊重
墨菲
2017-06-20
看空特斯拉
$特斯拉(TSLA)$看空特斯拉到350。
看空特斯拉
墨菲
2017-03-31
$宜人贷(YRD)$这个股票感觉被庄家抛弃了似的,没人玩了。
去老虎APP查看更多动态
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