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sherlou
2020-11-18
抄襲別人的吧
@猛兽财经网:特斯拉现阶段的估值是否太高了?
sherlou
2020-08-11
感謝上面幾層樓的手足,祝你們股海長勝,一生平安
@请叫我兄长:
$壹传媒(00282)$
大陆人,不可能理解为什么会📈
sherlou
2020-08-11
可以分清楚是炒作還是以行動說不嗎?
@联合国收割机:
$壹传媒(00282)$
一群傻散,散户都是买涨不买跌,不拉高怎么里面机构怎么能出货?再烂的股也没有比散户头脑🧠更烂!
sherlou
2020-06-15
作者的名字有什麼敏感呢?
@美股研究社:冷眼旁观中概股
sherlou
2020-06-10
這篇文章不錯,轉發給大家看看
@杨星榆:Bill Ackman(最新持仓)
sherlou
2020-05-21
好
抱歉,原内容已删除
sherlou
2020-05-17
外媒沒消息
抱歉,原内容已删除
sherlou
2020-05-13
$HSI(HSI)$
騰指
sherlou
2020-05-12
Not bad,worth reading
@安心睡大觉:金山云值不值得投资?
sherlou
2020-05-11
除了
$iShares Nasdaq Biotechnology ETF(IBB)$
,還可以留意這個
$Loncar Cancer Immunotherapy ETF(CNCR)$
sherlou
2020-05-08
$Cambria Tail Risk ETF(TAIL)$
別人貪婪我恐慌
sherlou
2020-05-08
$Amplify BlackSwan Growth and Treasury Core ETF(SWAN)$
別人貪婪我恐慌
sherlou
2020-05-06
Not bad,worth reading
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Sullivan(与招股书一样第三方)金山云再不上市,增长速度降速很快就会显现,市场份额也会沦陷(目前也就5%),也就圈不到钱了,现在正是风口。2、营业收入与市值相差较大,未来增长不确定金山云2018年的营收达到22.182亿元人民币,较2017年的12.36亿元人民币增长79.5%,2019","text":"凡事不懂的,投资前都要先研究一下。 ——题记一、关于打新美股我未在港美股参与打新,原因很简单,打新的赔率挺高,再加上不了解绝大多数的公司,故而基本不参与。为什么说打新在A股是非常赚钱的事情,但在港美股就不是这样呢。从美股最近的11家公司来看,首日破发达到5家。剔除金山云,从经验主义可知中签首日吃肉的概率为50%。长期坚持拿在手里,浮亏将达到9家,也就是90%的亏损率。从18年至今,上市取得高额收益的有以下几个:跟谁学(300%),zoom(330%),拼多多(187%),哔哩哔哩(152%)一般收益的有:网易有道(25%),虎牙(32%),华米科技(23%)。而这7家公司仅占此期间44家上市公司的16%,是很低的比例了。所以这个打新很多时候不参与也罢,而我为何要参与打新这次的金山云?因为:a 这家公司我还是比较了解的,毕竟属于金山、小米系。b 这家公司在云服务这个风口上。欢迎公众号(劲野财经日记),若想打新股,欢迎私信我。二、金山云这个价钱值不值?金山云长期来看具有高度不确定性,我虽然打新中了,但早早的就在22美元一股卖掉了中签的股票。为何我觉得金山云不值更高的股价呢?(高于22美元一股)1、金山云是2019年度的第三大云服务厂商,但它不是现在的第三大云服务厂商。华为云和金山云属于同一级别的云服务供应商,但目前来看华为云更具有成长性。数据来源:Frost & 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