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03-06

鸡你太美就等着开源呢

得不到就毁掉？OpenAI驳回马斯克的所有指控

2021-09-08

特斯拉上海工厂大多数产能都出口欧洲市场，等该死的德国工厂建成出产能就是血洗国内三傻的时候！

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2021-08-13

华为拷贝部马上加班拷贝[开心]

苹果新专利：把Apple Pencil放在电脑里

2021-05-21

滑而不为，徒有其名

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2021-05-06

蟑狼要被气哭，销量怎么还这么好😄

外媒：特斯拉需求异常强劲，第二季度产能已经售罄

2021-05-03

$华仕伯(VAL)$终于重组成功了！有票的兄弟是不是被清零了？

2021-02-08

格局限制，也只能做国内的B站

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2021-01-04

台积电2021年产能铺满，没有多余产能了

ASML传来坏消息！张忠谋：国产光刻机迎来磨难，台积电首当其冲

2020-12-04

$壹传媒(00282)$又涨了[笑哭]

2020-10-20

$华仕伯(VAL)$怎么从退市变成停牌了？

2020-09-16

这篇文章不错，转发给大家看看

There are seven coronavirus vaccine candidates being tested in the U.S. -- here's where they stand

2020-09-02

$Whiting Petroleum Corp(WLL)$总股本未变，不是75股变1股吗？

2020-07-01

$景顺抵押资本(IVR)$确定过信息，被套路了[捂脸]

2020-05-22

割韭菜

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2020-04-27

$MFA Financial(MFA)$$景顺抵押资本(IVR)$这个有利好吗？

2020-04-03

$MFA Financial(MFA)$出了什么事，怎么突然涨起来了？

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OpenAI的Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，不是开源。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">来看最重要的三点，OpenAI表示，<strong>马斯克因未能享受到OpenAI的成果而不满，所以提起诉讼，</strong>AGI所需的投入比设想的要多，<strong>当初双方都认可构建一个营利性实体的必要性，但马斯克曾想控制公司让其与特斯拉合并，未能成功，却在OpenAI取得成果了以后提起了诉讼</strong>：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">构建通用人工智能（AGI）所需要的资源和投入比最初设想的还要多，而公司和马斯克都意识到，要获得这些资源，构建一个营利性实体是必要的，但我们无法就营利实体的条款与他达成协议。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们认为<strong>任何个人对OpenAI拥有绝对控制权都有悖于我们的使命，</strong>之后他提议将OpenAI并入特斯拉。2018年2月初马斯克的邮件称，建议OpenAI&#34;<strong>并入特斯拉作为它的现金奶牛&#34;</strong>，他认为“这一决定是完全正确的......加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc834195404c235b6a2fc999b6b90f12\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"299\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI称，<strong>马斯克一直都理解OpenAI要实现使命并不意味着需要开源，Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，正如下图Ilya和马斯克的对话:</strong></p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">实际上开源可能会增加风险，随着我们距离构建AI愈来越近，保持不那么开放或许会更有意义。OpenAI中的Open意味着每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，但着并不意味着必须公开分享所有科学研究和技术细节，特别是在接近实现AI技术的关键阶段。马斯克回复为:“是的”。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90c9ff1a2c17da6e7b437fc267c14a8a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"741\"/></p></blockquote><h2 id=\"id_2547319607\" style=\"text-align: start;\">未能并入特斯拉，马斯克急了？</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI直言，2015年底创办OpenAI时，马斯克就知道发展AI所需要的庞大资金支出，最初Greg Brockman和Sam Altman计划筹集1亿美元，但马斯克在一封电子邮件中表示，考虑到谷歌和Facebook的庞大指出规模，筹集的资金规模应达到10亿美元，不足的部分他会补足缺口：</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bf133fe7a5116aefadd50c17024ab918\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"617\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但建设AGI所需的资源成本远远超出了最初的设想，到了2017年底，OpenAI和马斯克<strong>都认识到，要获得这些资源，就必须建立一个营利实体，2018年初马斯克提议要让OpenAI加入特斯拉，但未能成功：</strong></p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们决定下一步的任务是创建一个营利实体，但埃隆希望获得多数股权、董事会控制权并担任首席执行官。我们没谈拢，他暂停了资金支持，Reid Hoffman填补了资金缺口，支付了工资和运营费用。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">马斯克希望我们与特斯拉合并，作为特斯拉的“现金奶牛”，称加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/88d45340c238e669b8d9a7f24be91677\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"598\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">因为OpenAI拒绝了马斯克加入特斯拉的协议，很快马斯克选择了离开，并直言OpenAI成功概率为0，计划在特斯拉内部建立一个能与之抗衡的AGI竞争对手：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">他在2018年2月底离开时告诉我们的团队，他支持我们未来自己寻找数十亿美元的资金来源，2018年12月，马斯克再次给我们发邮件说：“筹集到几亿美元也远远不够，AGI需要每年数十亿美元的投资，否则就别想了。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3f7a873f97b882604d366c583e49ae68\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"718\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">马斯克2016年向OpenAI资助超过1500万美元，高于其他捐赠者还要多，帮助OpenAI组成一支拥有顶尖人才的团队，次年又向OpenAI资助了近2000万美元。从2016年至2020年9月，马斯克共向OpenAI投资超过4400万美元。马斯克称为OpenAI租下最初办公室并支付租金，还强调他参与了公司重要里程碑。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI在公告中并未质疑马斯克在OpenAI成立初期的功劳称，他们深深钦佩的人竟然走到了这一步——曾激励OpenAI向更高的目标迈进，但却在OpenAI向着使命迈进时，起诉了他们：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">令我们深感遗憾的是，我们深深钦佩的一个人竟然走到了这一步——他激励我们向更高的目标迈进，然后告诉我们会失败，成立了一个竞争对手，当我们开始在没有他的情况下朝着 OpenAI 的使命取得有意义的进展时，他又起诉了我们。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们专注于推进我们的使命，还有很长的路要走。随着我们不断改进我们的工具，我们很高兴能够部署这些系统，以便它们赋予每个人力量。</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但很显然，马斯克在2018年对于OpenAI的预测被现实“打脸”。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">当ChatGPT于11月推出时，OpenAI立即成为最热门的新科技初创公司，迫使谷歌争相追赶。对此马斯克非常愤怒。12月马斯克违背了收购推特之前签署的合同，取消了OpenAI对推特“水管”数据流的访问。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">去年2月17日，马斯克在X上写道：“OpenAI是作为一家开源的非营利公司创建的，以制衡谷歌，但现在它却已经成为一家由微软有效控制的开源、利润最大的公司。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">3月15日，他在X上再次发文：“我仍然很困惑，我捐赠了约1亿美元的非营利组织是如何变成300亿美元的市值营利组织的。如果这是合法的，为什么不让其他人这样做？”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">周五，他又推发布了“我相信一切都会好起来的”，却在一个表情包中写道：“我意识到人工智能，人类有史以来最强大的工具，现在掌握在无情的企业垄断手中。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">因此有分析认为，或许马斯克和OpenAI之间的纠纷与其是否营利实体的地位无关。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI将谷歌甩在了身后，无疑深深刺痛了当年离开的马斯克，使他与如今科技界最热闹的事情毫无关系。马斯克现在的目标是创办自己的人工智能初创公司。但他如今还将背负着推特这一代价高昂的“消遣”。</p><h2 id=\"id_1079109282\" style=\"text-align: start;\">One More Thing</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI的公开回应引爆了社交圈，大家还注意到了双方邮件中的一句话，“不幸的是，人类的未来掌握在xxx的手上。”网友纷纷猜测■■■中是谁？谷歌吗？</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/58ac082c15ae833ed92ef4a8ce1981a9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"266\"/></p></body></html>","source":"live_wallstreetcn","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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OpenAI的Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，不是开源。来看最重要的三点，OpenAI表示，马斯克因未能享受到OpenAI的成果而不满，所以提起诉讼，AGI所需的投入比设想的要多，当初双方都认可构建一个营利性实体的必要性，但马斯克曾想控制公司让其与特斯拉合并，未能成功，却在OpenAI取得成果了以后提起了诉讼：构建通用人工智能（AGI）所需要的资源和投入比最初设想的还要多，而公司和马斯克都意识到，要获得这些资源，构建一个营利性实体是必要的，但我们无法就营利实体的条款与他达成协议。我们认为任何个人对OpenAI拥有绝对控制权都有悖于我们的使命，之后他提议将OpenAI并入特斯拉。2018年2月初马斯克的邮件称，建议OpenAI\"并入特斯拉作为它的现金奶牛\"，他认为“这一决定是完全正确的......加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。”OpenAI称，马斯克一直都理解OpenAI要实现使命并不意味着需要开源，Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，正如下图Ilya和马斯克的对话:实际上开源可能会增加风险，随着我们距离构建AI愈来越近，保持不那么开放或许会更有意义。OpenAI中的Open意味着每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，但着并不意味着必须公开分享所有科学研究和技术细节，特别是在接近实现AI技术的关键阶段。马斯克回复为:“是的”。未能并入特斯拉，马斯克急了？OpenAI直言，2015年底创办OpenAI时，马斯克就知道发展AI所需要的庞大资金支出，最初Greg Brockman和Sam Altman计划筹集1亿美元，但马斯克在一封电子邮件中表示，考虑到谷歌和Facebook的庞大指出规模，筹集的资金规模应达到10亿美元，不足的部分他会补足缺口：但建设AGI所需的资源成本远远超出了最初的设想，到了2017年底，OpenAI和马斯克都认识到，要获得这些资源，就必须建立一个营利实体，2018年初马斯克提议要让OpenAI加入特斯拉，但未能成功：我们决定下一步的任务是创建一个营利实体，但埃隆希望获得多数股权、董事会控制权并担任首席执行官。我们没谈拢，他暂停了资金支持，Reid Hoffman填补了资金缺口，支付了工资和运营费用。马斯克希望我们与特斯拉合并，作为特斯拉的“现金奶牛”，称加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。因为OpenAI拒绝了马斯克加入特斯拉的协议，很快马斯克选择了离开，并直言OpenAI成功概率为0，计划在特斯拉内部建立一个能与之抗衡的AGI竞争对手：他在2018年2月底离开时告诉我们的团队，他支持我们未来自己寻找数十亿美元的资金来源，2018年12月，马斯克再次给我们发邮件说：“筹集到几亿美元也远远不够，AGI需要每年数十亿美元的投资，否则就别想了。马斯克2016年向OpenAI资助超过1500万美元，高于其他捐赠者还要多，帮助OpenAI组成一支拥有顶尖人才的团队，次年又向OpenAI资助了近2000万美元。从2016年至2020年9月，马斯克共向OpenAI投资超过4400万美元。马斯克称为OpenAI租下最初办公室并支付租金，还强调他参与了公司重要里程碑。OpenAI在公告中并未质疑马斯克在OpenAI成立初期的功劳称，他们深深钦佩的人竟然走到了这一步——曾激励OpenAI向更高的目标迈进，但却在OpenAI向着使命迈进时，起诉了他们：令我们深感遗憾的是，我们深深钦佩的一个人竟然走到了这一步——他激励我们向更高的目标迈进，然后告诉我们会失败，成立了一个竞争对手，当我们开始在没有他的情况下朝着 OpenAI 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In the U.S., there are seven vaccine candidates that have moved into clinical trials with human participants, including three that have moved into the crucial Phase 3 development phase. \n</p>\n<p>\n  The first and second phases of clinical studies are primarily conducted to test for safety, while the third and final stage is used to determine whether the vaccines are efficacious and can prevent infection among participants. At that point, the vaccine makers will decide when to pursue an emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration and/or a full approval. The majority of the vaccines in development have received funding from the U.S. government, either to help support clinical development or pay for manufacturing and distribution of the vaccines as part of the Trump administration's Operation Warp Speed program. \n</p>\n<p>\n  MarketWatch will update this tally as the vaccines move through development. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 3 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n</p>\n<p>\n  AstraZeneca, in partnership with the University of Oxford \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(AZN.LN) (AZN.LN) Up 7.8% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: AZD1222 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Vector-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2: Data from the Phase 1/2 trial, which is being conducted in the U.K., was published July 20 in The Lancet  neutralizing antibody responses in 91% of 35 patients when using <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> test and 100% of 35 patients when using a different test. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: This trial, which will be held in the U.S., is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants. (Late-stage studies are also being conducted in Brazil, and South Africa, and the U.K.) Data is expected by the end of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: up to $1.2 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 300 million doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  BioNTech  and Pfizer Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performances: BioNTech<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BNTX\">$(BNTX)$</a>, up 75.0%; Pfizer<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PFE\">$(PFE)$</a>, down 8.3%. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: BNT162b2 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: mRNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1: The companies published preliminary data on July 1 for BNT162b1 as a preprint  was published on Aug. 28 for BNT162b2 that found this candidate produced similar levels of antibodies but participants reported fewer reactions. \n</p>\n<p>\n    This trial is expected to focus on BNT162b2. It is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants in Argentina, Brazil, and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: $1.95 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 500 million more doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Moderna Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MRNA\">$(MRNA)$</a> Up 187.8% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: mRNA-1273 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: mRNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1 . Moderna's vaccine candidate elicited neutralizing antibodies in all 45 participants in this trial, which was conducted in the U.S. in partnership with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 2a : This study closed enrollment of 600 participants on July 8. This trial is also focused on the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3 : This study is expected to complete enrollment of up to 30,000 people sometime in September. \n</p>\n<p>\n  R&amp;D funding from BARDA: $955 million \n</p>\n<p>\n  Supply funding from the U.S. government: Up to $1.525 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million, with option to acquire up 400 million additional doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 1 and 2 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n</p>\n<p>\n  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INO\">Inovio Pharmaceuticals Inc</a>. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(INO)up 191.2% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: INO-4800 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: DNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1  on June; it has not yet shared the full data but has submitted the results for publication in a peer-reviewed medical journal. The trial is being conducted in the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 2/3: Inovio said Sept. 8 it plans to launch this phase of the study in September, if it is given the go-ahead by the FDA. \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. government funding: It received $71 million  from the Department of Defense to make and buy the devices that will be used to dispense the company's vaccine if it is authorized or approved. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Johnson &amp; Johnson \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JNJ\">$(JNJ)$</a> Up 1.2% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: Ad26. COV2. S \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Vector-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2a  in the second half of July, with a goal of enrolling 1,045 adults in Belgium and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: It plans to launch this trial in September. \n</p>\n<p>\n  R&amp;D funding from BARDA: $456 million \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. government funding for manufacturing and delivery:More than $1 billion  \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 200 million additional doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Novavax Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVAX\">$(NVAX)$</a> Up 2,167.6% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: NVX-CoV2373 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Protein subunit \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1: . \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2: The second phase of the Phase 1/2 trial started in August and will be conducted in Australia and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: TBD \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government:$1.6 billion  \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses \n</p>\n<pre><table><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Sanofi</td><td>in combination with GlaxoSmithKline's (TICKER:GSK) (TICKER:UK:GSK)</td><td>adjuvant technology </td></tr></tbody></table></pre>\n<p>\n  Companies: \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance: Sanofi (SAN.FR)(SAN.FR) Up 0.6%. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: TBD \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Protein-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2 study: The trial was initiated Sept. 3 , with a goal of enrolling 440 adults in the U.S. Results are expected in December. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: This study is expected to launch by the \"end of 2020.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: Up to $2.1 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: Up to 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 500 million doses \n</p>\n<pre><table><tbody><tr><td>Sources: Company websites, federal data, the World Health Organization, RBC Capital Markets </td></tr></tbody></table></pre>\n<p>\n  -Jaimy Lee; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  September 08, 2020 13:37 ET (17:37 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2020 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>There are seven coronavirus vaccine candidates being tested in the U.S. -- here's where they stand</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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In the U.S., there are seven vaccine candidates that have moved into clinical trials with human participants, including three that have moved into the crucial Phase 3 development phase. \n</p>\n<p>\n  The first and second phases of clinical studies are primarily conducted to test for safety, while the third and final stage is used to determine whether the vaccines are efficacious and can prevent infection among participants. At that point, the vaccine makers will decide when to pursue an emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration and/or a full approval. The majority of the vaccines in development have received funding from the U.S. government, either to help support clinical development or pay for manufacturing and distribution of the vaccines as part of the Trump administration's Operation Warp Speed program. \n</p>\n<p>\n  MarketWatch will update this tally as the vaccines move through development. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 3 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n</p>\n<p>\n  AstraZeneca, in partnership with the University of Oxford \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(AZN.LN) (AZN.LN) Up 7.8% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: AZD1222 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Vector-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2: Data from the Phase 1/2 trial, which is being conducted in the U.K., was published July 20 in The Lancet  neutralizing antibody responses in 91% of 35 patients when using <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> test and 100% of 35 patients when using a different test. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: This trial, which will be held in the U.S., is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants. (Late-stage studies are also being conducted in Brazil, and South Africa, and the U.K.) Data is expected by the end of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: up to $1.2 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 300 million doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  BioNTech  and Pfizer Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performances: BioNTech<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BNTX\">$(BNTX)$</a>, up 75.0%; Pfizer<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PFE\">$(PFE)$</a>, down 8.3%. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: BNT162b2 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: mRNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1: The companies published preliminary data on July 1 for BNT162b1 as a preprint  was published on Aug. 28 for BNT162b2 that found this candidate produced similar levels of antibodies but participants reported fewer reactions. \n</p>\n<p>\n    This trial is expected to focus on BNT162b2. It is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants in Argentina, Brazil, and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: $1.95 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 500 million more doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Moderna Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MRNA\">$(MRNA)$</a> Up 187.8% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: mRNA-1273 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: mRNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1 . Moderna's vaccine candidate elicited neutralizing antibodies in all 45 participants in this trial, which was conducted in the U.S. in partnership with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 2a : This study closed enrollment of 600 participants on July 8. This trial is also focused on the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3 : This study is expected to complete enrollment of up to 30,000 people sometime in September. \n</p>\n<p>\n  R&amp;D funding from BARDA: $955 million \n</p>\n<p>\n  Supply funding from the U.S. government: Up to $1.525 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million, with option to acquire up 400 million additional doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 1 and 2 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n</p>\n<p>\n  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INO\">Inovio Pharmaceuticals Inc</a>. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(INO)up 191.2% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: INO-4800 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: DNA \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1  on June; it has not yet shared the full data but has submitted the results for publication in a peer-reviewed medical journal. The trial is being conducted in the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 2/3: Inovio said Sept. 8 it plans to launch this phase of the study in September, if it is given the go-ahead by the FDA. \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. government funding: It received $71 million  from the Department of Defense to make and buy the devices that will be used to dispense the company's vaccine if it is authorized or approved. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Johnson &amp; Johnson \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JNJ\">$(JNJ)$</a> Up 1.2% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: Ad26. COV2. S \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Vector-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2a  in the second half of July, with a goal of enrolling 1,045 adults in Belgium and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: It plans to launch this trial in September. \n</p>\n<p>\n  R&amp;D funding from BARDA: $456 million \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. government funding for manufacturing and delivery:More than $1 billion  \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 200 million additional doses \n</p>\n<p>\n  Novavax Inc. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVAX\">$(NVAX)$</a> Up 2,167.6% \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: NVX-CoV2373 \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Protein subunit \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1: . \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2: The second phase of the Phase 1/2 trial started in August and will be conducted in Australia and the U.S. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: TBD \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government:$1.6 billion  \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses \n</p>\n<pre><table><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Sanofi</td><td>in combination with GlaxoSmithKline's (TICKER:GSK) (TICKER:UK:GSK)</td><td>adjuvant technology </td></tr></tbody></table></pre>\n<p>\n  Companies: \n</p>\n<p>\n  Year-to-date stock performance: Sanofi (SAN.FR)(SAN.FR) Up 0.6%. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Name: TBD \n</p>\n<p>\n  Type: Protein-based \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 1/2 study: The trial was initiated Sept. 3 , with a goal of enrolling 440 adults in the U.S. Results are expected in December. \n</p>\n<p>\n  Phase 3: This study is expected to launch by the \"end of 2020.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: Up to $2.1 billion \n</p>\n<p>\n  U.S. dose promise: Up to 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 500 million doses \n</p>\n<pre><table><tbody><tr><td>Sources: Company websites, federal data, the World Health Organization, RBC Capital Markets </td></tr></tbody></table></pre>\n<p>\n  -Jaimy Lee; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  September 08, 2020 13:37 ET (17:37 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2020 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GSK.UK":"葛兰素史克","GSK":"葛兰素史克","INO":"伊诺维奥制药","BNTX":"BioNTech SE","NVAX":"诺瓦瓦克斯医药","AZN":"阿斯利康","MRNA":"Moderna, Inc.","SNY":"赛诺菲安万特","PFE":"辉瑞","JNJ":"强生"},"source_url":"http://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2066210025","content_text":"MW UPDATE: There are seven coronavirus vaccine candidates being tested in the U.S. -- here's where they stand\n\n\n  By Jaimy Lee \n\n\n  At least three of the still investigational vaccines have moved into Phase 3 clinical trials \n\n\n  The race to develop a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine is well under way, setting the stage to bring to market the fastest vaccine in history. \n\n\n  There are dozens of coronavirus vaccines in development, primarily in the preclinical phase when they are tested on animals. In the U.S., there are seven vaccine candidates that have moved into clinical trials with human participants, including three that have moved into the crucial Phase 3 development phase. \n\n\n  The first and second phases of clinical studies are primarily conducted to test for safety, while the third and final stage is used to determine whether the vaccines are efficacious and can prevent infection among participants. At that point, the vaccine makers will decide when to pursue an emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration and/or a full approval. The majority of the vaccines in development have received funding from the U.S. government, either to help support clinical development or pay for manufacturing and distribution of the vaccines as part of the Trump administration's Operation Warp Speed program. \n\n\n  MarketWatch will update this tally as the vaccines move through development. \n\n\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 3 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n\n\n  AstraZeneca, in partnership with the University of Oxford \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(AZN.LN) (AZN.LN) Up 7.8% \n\n\n  Name: AZD1222 \n\n\n  Type: Vector-based \n\n\n  Phase 1/2: Data from the Phase 1/2 trial, which is being conducted in the U.K., was published July 20 in The Lancet  neutralizing antibody responses in 91% of 35 patients when using one test and 100% of 35 patients when using a different test. \n\n\n  Phase 3: This trial, which will be held in the U.S., is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants. (Late-stage studies are also being conducted in Brazil, and South Africa, and the U.K.) Data is expected by the end of the year. \n\n\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: up to $1.2 billion \n\n\n  U.S. dose promise: 300 million doses \n\n\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n\n\n  BioNTech  and Pfizer Inc. \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performances: BioNTech$(BNTX)$, up 75.0%; Pfizer$(PFE)$, down 8.3%. \n\n\n  Name: BNT162b2 \n\n\n  Type: mRNA \n\n\n  Phase 1: The companies published preliminary data on July 1 for BNT162b1 as a preprint  was published on Aug. 28 for BNT162b2 that found this candidate produced similar levels of antibodies but participants reported fewer reactions. \n\n\n    This trial is expected to focus on BNT162b2. It is expected to enroll up to 30,000 participants in Argentina, Brazil, and the U.S. \n\n\n  Manufacturing funding from the U.S. government: $1.95 billion \n\n\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 500 million more doses \n\n\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n\n\n  Moderna Inc. \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performance:$(MRNA)$ Up 187.8% \n\n\n  Name: mRNA-1273 \n\n\n  Type: mRNA \n\n\n  Phase 1 . Moderna's vaccine candidate elicited neutralizing antibodies in all 45 participants in this trial, which was conducted in the U.S. in partnership with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. \n\n\n  Phase 2a : This study closed enrollment of 600 participants on July 8. This trial is also focused on the U.S. \n\n\n  Phase 3 : This study is expected to complete enrollment of up to 30,000 people sometime in September. \n\n\n  R&D funding from BARDA: $955 million \n\n\n  Supply funding from the U.S. government: Up to $1.525 billion \n\n\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million, with option to acquire up 400 million additional doses \n\n\n  Dosing: 2 doses \n\n\n  Vaccines that have entered Phase 1 and 2 trials in the U.S. (cited in alphabetical order, by company name): \n\n\nInovio Pharmaceuticals Inc. \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performance:(INO)up 191.2% \n\n\n  Name: INO-4800 \n\n\n  Type: DNA \n\n\n  Phase 1  on June; it has not yet shared the full data but has submitted the results for publication in a peer-reviewed medical journal. The trial is being conducted in the U.S. \n\n\n  Phase 2/3: Inovio said Sept. 8 it plans to launch this phase of the study in September, if it is given the go-ahead by the FDA. \n\n\n  U.S. government funding: It received $71 million  from the Department of Defense to make and buy the devices that will be used to dispense the company's vaccine if it is authorized or approved. \n\n\n  Johnson & Johnson \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performance:$(JNJ)$ Up 1.2% \n\n\n  Name: Ad26. COV2. S \n\n\n  Type: Vector-based \n\n\n  Phase 1/2a  in the second half of July, with a goal of enrolling 1,045 adults in Belgium and the U.S. \n\n\n  Phase 3: It plans to launch this trial in September. \n\n\n  R&D funding from BARDA: $456 million \n\n\n  U.S. government funding for manufacturing and delivery:More than $1 billion  \n\n\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses, with option to buy up to 200 million additional doses \n\n\n  Novavax Inc. \n\n\n  Year-to-date stock performance:$(NVAX)$ Up 2,167.6% \n\n\n  Name: NVX-CoV2373 \n\n\n  Type: Protein subunit \n\n\n  Phase 1: . \n\n\n  Phase 1/2: The second phase of the Phase 1/2 trial started in August and will be conducted in Australia and the U.S. \n\n\n  Phase 3: TBD \n\n\n  Clinical development and manufacturing funding from the U.S. government:$1.6 billion  \n\n\n  U.S. dose promise: 100 million doses \n\nSanofiin combination with GlaxoSmithKline's (TICKER:GSK) (TICKER:UK:GSK)adjuvant technology \n\n  Companies: \n\n\n  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OpenAI的Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，不是开源。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">来看最重要的三点，OpenAI表示，<strong>马斯克因未能享受到OpenAI的成果而不满，所以提起诉讼，</strong>AGI所需的投入比设想的要多，<strong>当初双方都认可构建一个营利性实体的必要性，但马斯克曾想控制公司让其与特斯拉合并，未能成功，却在OpenAI取得成果了以后提起了诉讼</strong>：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">构建通用人工智能（AGI）所需要的资源和投入比最初设想的还要多，而公司和马斯克都意识到，要获得这些资源，构建一个营利性实体是必要的，但我们无法就营利实体的条款与他达成协议。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们认为<strong>任何个人对OpenAI拥有绝对控制权都有悖于我们的使命，</strong>之后他提议将OpenAI并入特斯拉。2018年2月初马斯克的邮件称，建议OpenAI&#34;<strong>并入特斯拉作为它的现金奶牛&#34;</strong>，他认为“这一决定是完全正确的......加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc834195404c235b6a2fc999b6b90f12\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"299\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI称，<strong>马斯克一直都理解OpenAI要实现使命并不意味着需要开源，Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，正如下图Ilya和马斯克的对话:</strong></p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">实际上开源可能会增加风险，随着我们距离构建AI愈来越近，保持不那么开放或许会更有意义。OpenAI中的Open意味着每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，但着并不意味着必须公开分享所有科学研究和技术细节，特别是在接近实现AI技术的关键阶段。马斯克回复为:“是的”。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90c9ff1a2c17da6e7b437fc267c14a8a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"741\"/></p></blockquote><h2 id=\"id_2547319607\" style=\"text-align: start;\">未能并入特斯拉，马斯克急了？</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI直言，2015年底创办OpenAI时，马斯克就知道发展AI所需要的庞大资金支出，最初Greg Brockman和Sam Altman计划筹集1亿美元，但马斯克在一封电子邮件中表示，考虑到谷歌和Facebook的庞大指出规模，筹集的资金规模应达到10亿美元，不足的部分他会补足缺口：</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bf133fe7a5116aefadd50c17024ab918\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"617\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但建设AGI所需的资源成本远远超出了最初的设想，到了2017年底，OpenAI和马斯克<strong>都认识到，要获得这些资源，就必须建立一个营利实体，2018年初马斯克提议要让OpenAI加入特斯拉，但未能成功：</strong></p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们决定下一步的任务是创建一个营利实体，但埃隆希望获得多数股权、董事会控制权并担任首席执行官。我们没谈拢，他暂停了资金支持，Reid Hoffman填补了资金缺口，支付了工资和运营费用。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">马斯克希望我们与特斯拉合并，作为特斯拉的“现金奶牛”，称加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/88d45340c238e669b8d9a7f24be91677\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"598\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">因为OpenAI拒绝了马斯克加入特斯拉的协议，很快马斯克选择了离开，并直言OpenAI成功概率为0，计划在特斯拉内部建立一个能与之抗衡的AGI竞争对手：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">他在2018年2月底离开时告诉我们的团队，他支持我们未来自己寻找数十亿美元的资金来源，2018年12月，马斯克再次给我们发邮件说：“筹集到几亿美元也远远不够，AGI需要每年数十亿美元的投资，否则就别想了。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3f7a873f97b882604d366c583e49ae68\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"718\"/></p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">马斯克2016年向OpenAI资助超过1500万美元，高于其他捐赠者还要多，帮助OpenAI组成一支拥有顶尖人才的团队，次年又向OpenAI资助了近2000万美元。从2016年至2020年9月，马斯克共向OpenAI投资超过4400万美元。马斯克称为OpenAI租下最初办公室并支付租金，还强调他参与了公司重要里程碑。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI在公告中并未质疑马斯克在OpenAI成立初期的功劳称，他们深深钦佩的人竟然走到了这一步——曾激励OpenAI向更高的目标迈进，但却在OpenAI向着使命迈进时，起诉了他们：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">令我们深感遗憾的是，我们深深钦佩的一个人竟然走到了这一步——他激励我们向更高的目标迈进，然后告诉我们会失败，成立了一个竞争对手，当我们开始在没有他的情况下朝着 OpenAI 的使命取得有意义的进展时，他又起诉了我们。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">我们专注于推进我们的使命，还有很长的路要走。随着我们不断改进我们的工具，我们很高兴能够部署这些系统，以便它们赋予每个人力量。</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但很显然，马斯克在2018年对于OpenAI的预测被现实“打脸”。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">当ChatGPT于11月推出时，OpenAI立即成为最热门的新科技初创公司，迫使谷歌争相追赶。对此马斯克非常愤怒。12月马斯克违背了收购推特之前签署的合同，取消了OpenAI对推特“水管”数据流的访问。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">去年2月17日，马斯克在X上写道：“OpenAI是作为一家开源的非营利公司创建的，以制衡谷歌，但现在它却已经成为一家由微软有效控制的开源、利润最大的公司。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">3月15日，他在X上再次发文：“我仍然很困惑，我捐赠了约1亿美元的非营利组织是如何变成300亿美元的市值营利组织的。如果这是合法的，为什么不让其他人这样做？”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">周五，他又推发布了“我相信一切都会好起来的”，却在一个表情包中写道：“我意识到人工智能，人类有史以来最强大的工具，现在掌握在无情的企业垄断手中。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">因此有分析认为，或许马斯克和OpenAI之间的纠纷与其是否营利实体的地位无关。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI将谷歌甩在了身后，无疑深深刺痛了当年离开的马斯克，使他与如今科技界最热闹的事情毫无关系。马斯克现在的目标是创办自己的人工智能初创公司。但他如今还将背负着推特这一代价高昂的“消遣”。</p><h2 id=\"id_1079109282\" style=\"text-align: start;\">One More Thing</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">OpenAI的公开回应引爆了社交圈，大家还注意到了双方邮件中的一句话，“不幸的是，人类的未来掌握在xxx的手上。”网友纷纷猜测■■■中是谁？谷歌吗？</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/58ac082c15ae833ed92ef4a8ce1981a9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"266\"/></p></body></html>","source":"live_wallstreetcn","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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OpenAI的Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，不是开源。来看最重要的三点，OpenAI表示，马斯克因未能享受到OpenAI的成果而不满，所以提起诉讼，AGI所需的投入比设想的要多，当初双方都认可构建一个营利性实体的必要性，但马斯克曾想控制公司让其与特斯拉合并，未能成功，却在OpenAI取得成果了以后提起了诉讼：构建通用人工智能（AGI）所需要的资源和投入比最初设想的还要多，而公司和马斯克都意识到，要获得这些资源，构建一个营利性实体是必要的，但我们无法就营利实体的条款与他达成协议。我们认为任何个人对OpenAI拥有绝对控制权都有悖于我们的使命，之后他提议将OpenAI并入特斯拉。2018年2月初马斯克的邮件称，建议OpenAI\"并入特斯拉作为它的现金奶牛\"，他认为“这一决定是完全正确的......加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。”OpenAI称，马斯克一直都理解OpenAI要实现使命并不意味着需要开源，Open意味每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，正如下图Ilya和马斯克的对话:实际上开源可能会增加风险，随着我们距离构建AI愈来越近，保持不那么开放或许会更有意义。OpenAI中的Open意味着每个人都应该享有AI带来的成果，但着并不意味着必须公开分享所有科学研究和技术细节，特别是在接近实现AI技术的关键阶段。马斯克回复为:“是的”。未能并入特斯拉，马斯克急了？OpenAI直言，2015年底创办OpenAI时，马斯克就知道发展AI所需要的庞大资金支出，最初Greg Brockman和Sam Altman计划筹集1亿美元，但马斯克在一封电子邮件中表示，考虑到谷歌和Facebook的庞大指出规模，筹集的资金规模应达到10亿美元，不足的部分他会补足缺口：但建设AGI所需的资源成本远远超出了最初的设想，到了2017年底，OpenAI和马斯克都认识到，要获得这些资源，就必须建立一个营利实体，2018年初马斯克提议要让OpenAI加入特斯拉，但未能成功：我们决定下一步的任务是创建一个营利实体，但埃隆希望获得多数股权、董事会控制权并担任首席执行官。我们没谈拢，他暂停了资金支持，Reid Hoffman填补了资金缺口，支付了工资和运营费用。马斯克希望我们与特斯拉合并，作为特斯拉的“现金奶牛”，称加入特斯拉是OpenAI唯一能与谷歌争锋选择。因为OpenAI拒绝了马斯克加入特斯拉的协议，很快马斯克选择了离开，并直言OpenAI成功概率为0，计划在特斯拉内部建立一个能与之抗衡的AGI竞争对手：他在2018年2月底离开时告诉我们的团队，他支持我们未来自己寻找数十亿美元的资金来源，2018年12月，马斯克再次给我们发邮件说：“筹集到几亿美元也远远不够，AGI需要每年数十亿美元的投资，否则就别想了。马斯克2016年向OpenAI资助超过1500万美元，高于其他捐赠者还要多，帮助OpenAI组成一支拥有顶尖人才的团队，次年又向OpenAI资助了近2000万美元。从2016年至2020年9月，马斯克共向OpenAI投资超过4400万美元。马斯克称为OpenAI租下最初办公室并支付租金，还强调他参与了公司重要里程碑。OpenAI在公告中并未质疑马斯克在OpenAI成立初期的功劳称，他们深深钦佩的人竟然走到了这一步——曾激励OpenAI向更高的目标迈进，但却在OpenAI向着使命迈进时，起诉了他们：令我们深感遗憾的是，我们深深钦佩的一个人竟然走到了这一步——他激励我们向更高的目标迈进，然后告诉我们会失败，成立了一个竞争对手，当我们开始在没有他的情况下朝着 OpenAI 的使命取得有意义的进展时，他又起诉了我们。我们专注于推进我们的使命，还有很长的路要走。随着我们不断改进我们的工具，我们很高兴能够部署这些系统，以便它们赋予每个人力量。但很显然，马斯克在2018年对于OpenAI的预测被现实“打脸”。当ChatGPT于11月推出时，OpenAI立即成为最热门的新科技初创公司，迫使谷歌争相追赶。对此马斯克非常愤怒。12月马斯克违背了收购推特之前签署的合同，取消了OpenAI对推特“水管”数据流的访问。去年2月17日，马斯克在X上写道：“OpenAI是作为一家开源的非营利公司创建的，以制衡谷歌，但现在它却已经成为一家由微软有效控制的开源、利润最大的公司。”3月15日，他在X上再次发文：“我仍然很困惑，我捐赠了约1亿美元的非营利组织是如何变成300亿美元的市值营利组织的。如果这是合法的，为什么不让其他人这样做？”周五，他又推发布了“我相信一切都会好起来的”，却在一个表情包中写道：“我意识到人工智能，人类有史以来最强大的工具，现在掌握在无情的企业垄断手中。”因此有分析认为，或许马斯克和OpenAI之间的纠纷与其是否营利实体的地位无关。OpenAI将谷歌甩在了身后，无疑深深刺痛了当年离开的马斯克，使他与如今科技界最热闹的事情毫无关系。马斯克现在的目标是创办自己的人工智能初创公司。但他如今还将背负着推特这一代价高昂的“消遣”。One More ThingOpenAI的公开回应引爆了社交圈，大家还注意到了双方邮件中的一句话，“不幸的是，人类的未来掌握在xxx的手上。”网友纷纷猜测■■■中是谁？谷歌吗？","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":277,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":894951236,"gmtCreate":1628784658825,"gmtModify":1628784658825,"author":{"id":"3547114025989487","authorId":"3547114025989487","name":"自由君","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f249506f773b7df167d4defbae98dca7","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false},"themes":[],"htmlText":"华为拷贝部马上加班拷贝[开心]&nbsp;","listText":"华为拷贝部马上加班拷贝[开心]&nbsp;","text":"华为拷贝部马上加班拷贝[开心]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/894951236","repostId":"2158126892","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1183,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":972632481,"gmtCreate":1600199728243,"gmtModify":1703820725001,"author":{"id":"3547114025989487","authorId":"3547114025989487","name":"自由君","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f249506f773b7df167d4defbae98dca7","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看看","listText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看看","text":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/972632481","repostId":"2066210025","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1086,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}