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索罗斯被占
2020-04-15
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
感觉这价格睡不着觉的应该是空头,时刻看着准备践踏平仓。20美金,到10美金挺多赚本金50%。而上不封顶,随时空头都可能爆仓。 当前经济需求30-40美金是合理的,比较最大进口国有40的下限,40符合进、产国最大利益。 不是现货对冲,这东西,就是负和博弈。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-20
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
遗憾,无法见证个位数的期货油价。空头不给力啊。个位数都没到,怎么有动力修改软件支持负数呢?
索罗斯被占
2022-03-12
$滴滴(DIDI)$
滴滴还是不错的,为网约车做出了巨大贡献。 至少中国民众目前为止都或多或少得了滴滴的好处。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-28
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
支持。
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索罗斯被占
2020-04-20
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
空头难道不需要平仓的吗?大资金都做空,看谁更敢空?空头怎么不直接砸到10美元以下?不是买油送运费吗?
索罗斯被占
2020-04-22
$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$
没有实物交割能力的,把这当做资本游戏就好理解了,和实际原油价值一点关系都没有。 所以有仓位的最好别加仓,加仓目的就是想多赚,你多赚了肯定有人多亏。 别看现在空的猛,一旦涨起来也会上天,完全看资本操作,特别是有现货对冲的资本操作,它可以交割实物让你收你却收不了。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-21
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
没有实物交割,最好别玩了。 要玩也要及时平仓,持仓别超过1天,割肉认亏。毕竟买的时候看错就是真错了,放的越久,数据被分析的越全面,会越亏越多。已见证05美油历史。深刻明白,没有实物交易或者对冲的期货都是完全的资本负和游戏。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-20
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
之前发明水变油的,没想到水比油贵吧。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-22
$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$
一帮把负油价说的那么有理有据,还说关闭油井比倒贴钱卖划算,你说不亏你亏谁,亏了至少要明白如何亏了。 当前形势就是,没有现货交割能力的一堆人,开了多单。 而罪魁祸首就是银行,毕竟正常情况,银行不会这么明目张胆的坑客户,还坑到自己。 支付宝内原油期货一直不让买, 银行也以外汇额度为由隐晦提醒抄底做多者。 那是因为他们都看到了数据。 开多单是会把价格拉上去,但最终价格要有人接,而这期货不像股票可以放着,到期必须让你卖出,因此交割期平仓,就好踩踏,没有现货买家,那么价格就会无线低,直到有接收现货的多头出现。 而需求疲惫,导致原油过剩,有现货接收能力的买家基本没有了,所以有油无市场,就导致多头一步步踩踏。 根本解决办法:这期货不能放开给没有现货交割能力的散户进,不然现在是空逼仓,到时还会多逼仓,让你拿出油卖。怎样做大概率都是亏,能赚的小部分也是建立在别人的巨亏之上。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-17
$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$
银行不让开多单,但让开空单。一直不明白,到底是善意还是恶意? 不能开多,说是外汇限制,实际上银行可以买0.1桶,肯定不是国际上的原油期货(一手1000桶),而且买基本一瞬间,说明没走外面网络。那基本就是一个指数,和银行对弈了。
索罗斯被占
2022-05-21
$亚马逊(AMZN)$
又拆股。还想着能复制特斯拉金融奇迹,涨20倍。相信奇迹,一年内亚马逊再涨20倍。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-27
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
披着期货、原油的博弈。买大买小,买定离手,上不封顶,下不言底。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-21
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
负数的话,是不是一元就可以买一亿桶,还能得一亿元? 比如0.00001元每桶,那就可以买10万桶,负数肯定比它小。也就是昨天账户有一元,可以开多单,直接可以清场。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-27
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
华尔街还没开盘就跌了这么多。开盘那不是又见个位数? 看看就好,也许这就是人生。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-23
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
这走势,看来开空的投机散户比较多。震荡上行,不逼死投机的散户是不会下来了。 而且正常情况下,现货买卖双方平衡下,油价会回归商品属性,20以下做空,基本是完全背离商品属性的投机金融,一旦真正上去,基本不可能再下来了。20以下做多者也就是所谓抄底现货价格成功。还是:没有现货的期货都是纯碎的投机,远离最好。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-21
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
这帮卖石油的厂家自己做空自己,看来被疫情确实烧坏了大脑。命无,要油何用。?世界动乱的前奏。。。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-21
$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$
05杀多。06可能反杀空,就看看空的人多否。如果大家都开空,到时现货厂家开多,到时交割的时候,开空的没货卖,还是违约。 所以没现货的还是不要玩了,玩不过。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-21
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
这就是开多单不交割实物的后果………
索罗斯被占
2020-04-20
$WTI原油2005(CL2005)$
做空的是不是都得nCOV了?出门注意看红灯。
索罗斯被占
2020-04-23
$WTI原油主连(CLmain)$
负油价最终接盘的,应该是卖空的生产商,自己给自己交割。所以别看负油价,实际上对于生产商来说就是20+(-40)=60元,而且不要交割油。 打工是不可能打工的,交易一下,美元就回来了。
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当前形势就是,没有现货交割能力的一堆人,开了多单。 而罪魁祸首就是银行,毕竟正常情况,银行不会这么明目张胆的坑客户,还坑到自己。 支付宝内原油期货一直不让买, 银行也以外汇额度为由隐晦提醒抄底做多者。 那是因为他们都看到了数据。 开多单是会把价格拉上去,但最终价格要有人接,而这期货不像股票可以放着,到期必须让你卖出,因此交割期平仓,就好踩踏,没有现货买家,那么价格就会无线低,直到有接收现货的多头出现。 而需求疲惫,导致原油过剩,有现货接收能力的买家基本没有了,所以有油无市场,就导致多头一步步踩踏。 根本解决办法:这期货不能放开给没有现货交割能力的散户进,不然现在是空逼仓,到时还会多逼仓,让你拿出油卖。怎样做大概率都是亏,能赚的小部分也是建立在别人的巨亏之上。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/FUT/CL2006\">$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$</a>一帮把负油价说的那么有理有据,还说关闭油井比倒贴钱卖划算,你说不亏你亏谁,亏了至少要明白如何亏了。 当前形势就是,没有现货交割能力的一堆人,开了多单。 而罪魁祸首就是银行,毕竟正常情况,银行不会这么明目张胆的坑客户,还坑到自己。 支付宝内原油期货一直不让买, 银行也以外汇额度为由隐晦提醒抄底做多者。 那是因为他们都看到了数据。 开多单是会把价格拉上去,但最终价格要有人接,而这期货不像股票可以放着,到期必须让你卖出,因此交割期平仓,就好踩踏,没有现货买家,那么价格就会无线低,直到有接收现货的多头出现。 而需求疲惫,导致原油过剩,有现货接收能力的买家基本没有了,所以有油无市场,就导致多头一步步踩踏。 根本解决办法:这期货不能放开给没有现货交割能力的散户进,不然现在是空逼仓,到时还会多逼仓,让你拿出油卖。怎样做大概率都是亏,能赚的小部分也是建立在别人的巨亏之上。","text":"$WTI原油2006(CL2006)$一帮把负油价说的那么有理有据,还说关闭油井比倒贴钱卖划算,你说不亏你亏谁,亏了至少要明白如何亏了。 当前形势就是,没有现货交割能力的一堆人,开了多单。 而罪魁祸首就是银行,毕竟正常情况,银行不会这么明目张胆的坑客户,还坑到自己。 支付宝内原油期货一直不让买, 银行也以外汇额度为由隐晦提醒抄底做多者。 那是因为他们都看到了数据。 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