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2021-02-18

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$引流引了几年，引进来了一群什么人？乌烟瘴气说到底vtb直播、会员购、大会员、手游，赚的还是死宅那点钱[傲娇] 买个lol直播权，比赛完了人家该回海鲜台看还是回，冯提莫买回来一样凉凉虚拟主播反而成了直播区最大护城河，好嘛，还是二次元[白眼]

2020-01-31

$二倍做多VIX波动率指数短期期权ETN(TVIX)$ 昨天盘前50.7的时候空了一手，太舒服了

2021-02-14

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$这样的新用户真的是优质的用户吗？

2021-02-11

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$今年跨年拉胯，拜年祭也拉胯[捂脸]

2021-05-16

报～～狗币只拉了5个点不到就跌回去了[笑哭] [笑哭] [笑哭]

马斯克表示：在理想情况下，狗狗币可将区块时间加快10倍

2021-07-14

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$广东分发修好啦

2021-05-14

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$国内舆论趋势对B站这种多元化网站的影响不可忽视，国内民族主义崛起已经导致了多起对亚文化圈子的冲击事件B站被主流文化彻底同化的时刻，护城河也会逐步消失

2020-02-28

啥时候搞个期权大赛得了，各路神仙就全出来了

2021-09-03

roblox事实上更接近于游戏创造平台

马化腾说的“全真互联网”，到底是什么？

2020-01-27

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$ 进场喽

2019-12-26

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 我好起来了

2021-09-02

$腾讯控股(00700)$《原神》等一众手游今日似乎放宽对软色情内容的限制

2021-08-03

$腾讯控股(00700)$加仓！加仓！

2021-05-23

$海底捞(06862)$听说海底捞准备跑路[惊讶] [惊讶]

2021-05-14

$哔哩哔哩(BILI)$国内舆论趋势对B站这种多元化网站的影响不可忽视，年初至今主流舆论已经导致了多起对亚文化圈子的冲击事件[难过] [难过]

2021-04-18

也没跌破长线支撑啊[捂脸]

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-02-12

奶茶的未来就是美国的星巴克，但不一定是奈雪[傲娇]

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-11-19

$AMD(AMD)$rdna2架构勉强追上nvidia，看看接下来的rdna3和fx cas开源库吧

2020-04-15

$台积电(TSM)$下半年次世代主机和ryzen4，rdna2这些大招一起放出，应该能撑住7nm市场吧[开心]

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5G&nbsp;技术让用户零延时体验，使用云计算和区块链技术让虚拟身份和财产得到唯一确权。</p>\n<p>所以，按通俗的理解，<b>元宇宙是老游戏和新技术的一种结合。</b></p>\n<p>因为要实现上面那些场景，其实现在很多游戏都可以做到，甚至比这些号称元宇宙的产品做得还好。</p>\n<p>但是有一个区别，这些游戏都是以用户单一视角呈现的，是一种视觉化的表现。</p>\n<p>而对于元宇宙来说，它会对现实的复刻要求更高，在延时性、同步性、真实性的要求上也更高。</p>\n<p>要知道，真实世界的发生都是实时进行的。</p>\n<p>你在家里看电视的同时，世界上任何一个地点同时也在发生着很多不同的事，而且任何一件可能都会跟你产生关系。</p>\n<p>在传统游戏里，用户只需要和自身周围小范围的事物接触。</p>\n<p>但放在元宇宙里，他可能立马就到了世界的任何地方，看到及经历那里正在发生的最真实的事。</p>\n<p>这些，都对「算力」提出了很高的要求。</p>\n<p>从这个角度来说，现有的技术还不足以支撑理想中元宇宙的形态。或者说，像「Roblox」还只是元宇宙的最初形态。</p>\n<p>概念是有了，想象也有了，接下来就看怎么实现了。</p>\n<p>我的理解不一定对，但对于捆绑新技术的老游戏，至少我现在还看不出它到底有什么颠覆性的不一样。</p>\n<p>说完元宇宙，再聊聊「全真互联网」。</p>\n<p>其实在我看来，小马哥说的这个全真互联网应该是元宇宙的高级形态，将现实中的一切虚拟化，包括人、物、关系、设备、信息、金钱等等。</p>\n<p>试想一下，未来你会用一个虚拟身份进入一个虚拟世界，你可以在里面工作赚钱，也可以在里面交朋友，甚至可以购买自己喜欢的衣服或车子，但这些都需要你自己去一点一点积累。</p>\n<p>除此之外，你还可以在里面娱乐，刷视频、看新闻、玩游戏，但这一切都是对于那个虚拟世界的反馈。</p>\n<p>也就是说，你刷的是发生在虚拟世界的新闻，看到的是虚拟世界的<a 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