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韭菜盒子3.0
04-22
$理想汽车(LI)$
L6会大量抢L7/L8订单,即使最后总订单量增长,但毛利、净利会大幅下降
韭菜盒子3.0
01-22
$量子之歌(QSG)$
这是请了人做市值管理吗?上串下跳的
韭菜盒子3.0
03-21
$理想汽车(LI)$
李想人品不好,太鸡贼,这家公司的企业文化不可能好,段永平说看一家公司最重要的是商业模式和企业文化
韭菜盒子3.0
2022-12-10
如果特斯拉是苹果,
$理想汽车(LI)$
充其量就是个联想
韭菜盒子3.0
05-15
$理想汽车(LI)$
谁知道近期L7、L8、L9的销量走势?现在看M9销量大幅领先L9,理想只公布L系列总销量,想知道拆分车型的具体销量变化趋势
韭菜盒子3.0
04-03
“做企业就像跳水,动作越少越好” 送给李想
抱歉,原内容已删除
韭菜盒子3.0
2022-10-24
蔚小李 更难受了,上下挤压
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韭菜盒子3.0
2022-03-09
段离开中国太久了,并不知道国内的形势
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韭菜盒子3.0
10-02
$美丽田园医疗健康(02373)$
真稳啊,任凭你千军万马齐上涨,我自巍然不动,这定力[强]
韭菜盒子3.0
03-22
$理想汽车(LI)$
包括这次的内部信,又是鸡贼的一种表现,李想不知道内部信会流出吗?他太知道了,所以信的内容是写给公众看的,自己MEGA销量目标达不到、总销量被华为超过,就说我们不在意销量了,我们要回归用户,鸡贼,极度鸡贼!销量和用户价值是互斥的吗?是只能二选一的吗?用户价值好不是应该销量高才对吗?你以前卖得好是因为你的车用户价值好吗?不是因为你营销做得好吗?你天天喷这个喷那个上串下跳的不就是为了营销吗?实事求是知错就改?呸,你啥时候能诚实一点、真诚面对大众,而不是认为自己智力超群,把所有人当傻子,大家才不会骂你鸡贼厂! ----------------------------------- 下面是之前在别人文章下的评论,我也转贴过来 有人说理想理性,那为什么这么理性呢?急功近利,极度的功利主义,他们自己不也承认了么,追求欲望的满足了,欲望是啥?是成为销量第一,碾压全场,是市值狂涨利润狂增,是打所有人的脸让大家承认理想NB,不就是这些么,这不就是功利主义吗? 马斯克也极度渴望成功,也极度理性,但他想成功的目的是什么?是让人类摆脱化石能源,所以他各种开源,鼓励更多电动车企业,因为他要打败的是燃油车及其背后的庞大石油利益集团,而你理想呢?天天踩的是其他电动车企业! 这种根儿上的不同导致理想必然是一家急功近利的公司,必然鸡贼,必然被所有人讨厌!
韭菜盒子3.0
2023-06-03
$量子之歌(QSG)$
SB,拿A股那一套在美股玩
韭菜盒子3.0
2022-12-10
$理想汽车(LI)$
**新势力,纯瞎造概念,广汽埃安、比亚迪这些所谓的“老势力”哪里老了?特斯拉哪里老了?
韭菜盒子3.0
10-04
$美丽田园医疗健康(02373)$
这支股票的关注度是有多低啊……
韭菜盒子3.0
2023-10-26
$爱美客(300896)$
今天加仓的人在想什么?
韭菜盒子3.0
2022-03-09
国内民营巨头也不是没有可能被拆分的
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去老虎APP查看更多动态
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送给李想","listText":"“做企业就像跳水,动作越少越好” 送给李想","text":"“做企业就像跳水,动作越少越好” 送给李想","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/291330206265656","repostId":"1178277008","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1178277008","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1712133930,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1178277008?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2024-04-03 16:45","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"理想反思落地:推出矩阵组织2.0,整合产品与商业","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1178277008","media":"36氪","summary":"$36氪$独家获悉,4月3日下午,理想汽车发布全员公告,宣布开启矩阵型组织2.0升级,同时进行多个部门组织架构调整。而此次公告中,CEO办公室正式更名为“产品与战略群组”,更加聚焦产品与战略,弱化了供应链、商业销售职能。反思错误,理想推出矩阵组织2.03月1日,定价55.98万元的理想纯电MPV车型MEGA正式上市。这也是理想更加深入学习华为组织建设、推出矩阵式组织2.0的重要原因。","content":"<html><head></head><body><blockquote><p>“先僵化、后优化、再固化”</p></blockquote><p>针对3月以来的新车上市失序,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">理想汽车</a>内部反思迎来了实质性动作。</p><p>4月3日下午,理想汽车发布全员公告,宣布开启矩阵型组织2.0升级,同时进行多个部门组织架构调整。</p><p>“这次调整确实跟MEGA有关系。之前内部复盘下来,公司在用户价值、经营效率方面都没太想清楚,决策落地执行也不够到位。所以要通过升级来保持组织灵活性。”有接近此次变革的理想人士说道。</p><p>具体来看,此次组织变动主要集中在理想汽车的CEO办公室部门。此前,该部门直接向CEO李想汇报,涵盖品牌部、产品部、商业部、战略部、供应部,约500多人。</p><p>商业部副总裁刘杰、产品高级副总裁范皓宇、供应部副总裁廖泽华等人均在其中,这些人成了李想外脑的延伸。</p><p><strong>而此次公告中,CEO办公室正式更名为“产品与战略群组”,更加聚焦产品与战略,弱化了供应链、商业销售职能。</strong></p><p><strong>其中,刘杰负责的商业部更名为“产品线”,未来负责理想车型的全生命周期操盘,范皓宇原管辖的产品部的车型PDT团队也挪入该部</strong>门。</p><p>具体来看,新的产品线部门职能包括:</p><p>- 产品线负责车型全生命周期的操盘;</p><p>- 产品线团队收集、汇总来自用户、专家、合作伙伴、行业的各类信息,并据此进行统筹,确定产品定义,并协调各个部门工作;</p><p>- 在产品开发阶段,侧重和研发、供应团队配合;</p><p>- 在上市期,侧重和销售端(包括GTM、销服)、市场营销端配合。</p><p>对于此次调整,内部人士表示,产品线主要对产品商业成功的决策与操盘负责,实现一个总目标:<strong>商业成功,就是用户满意、公司赚钱。</strong></p><p>而剥离车型PDT团队后,范皓宇的产品部会继续聚焦<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶、智能空间、电动平台等平台型产品。</p><p>同时,原本CEO办公室下的供应链部门,由廖泽华负责,调整后并入总裁马东辉的生产与研发群组。</p><p><strong>更为值得关注的是,在销售与服务高级副总裁邹良军之下,理想汽车正式新设立GTM(Go to Market)团队,负责协同新产品上市操盘计划的落地,为市场结果负责。</strong></p><p>有多名知情人士向36氪汽车分析,此次调整的核心是,CEO办公室职能减负,更加聚焦产品,同时,通过“产品线”部门的设立,让理想车型产品定义与商业落地更紧密合作,“例如,MEGA市场价格、销售目标失衡的情况,或许就可以更多避免。”</p><p>这也是2022年底,理想汽车启动面向千亿规模的矩阵型组织升级后,最大一轮组织变动。</p><p>公告表示,理想内部要继续深入向华为学习组织能力建设,聚焦用户价值,提高决策质量和经营效率。同时通过组织升级,减少不创造价值的流程,减少会议的数量,提高员工的工作效率,增加员工的回报。</p><p>有内部人士表示,华为引入<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/IBM\">IBM</a>组织架构时,也经历过“先僵化、后优化、再固化”的局面,2023年理想基本属于僵化流程的阶段。“现在打过仗了,也栽了跟头,是时候做优化了。”</p><p><strong>反思错误,理想推出矩阵组织2.0</strong></p><p>3月1日,定价55.98万元的理想纯电MPV车型MEGA正式上市。虽然以56万元的售价,引领纯电MPV销量榜,但这款旗舰纯电车销量依然距离内部目标较远。</p><p>上市20天后,3月21日,理想汽车CEO李想也在内部信中反思,内部对纯电战略节奏的误判,让MEGA的节奏出现了问题。“我们错误地把理想MEGA的从0到1阶段(商业验证期)当成了从1到10阶段(高速发展期)进行经营。”</p><p>此外,李想还指出,理想汽车从上至下过于关注销量和竞争,让欲望超越了价值。</p><p>为此理想还发布公告下调了一季度的车辆交付量预期,从此前10万辆-10.3万辆下调到7.6万辆-7.8万辆。</p><p>但反思向来要对应到行动,理想汽车的矩阵组织2.0也在此背景下推出。</p><p>有内部人士告诉36氪,内部高层复盘总结2023年的成功,是因为平台化造车优势,但随着产品矩阵扩大,“价值传递的链条过长,很多决策需要经过多部门集体讨论。”</p><p>有员工向36氪汽车透露,过去一年多,确实感觉到部门负责人的会议相当密集,几乎周末都在开,“花在决策上的时间过多,留给执行和落地的时间不够。”而此次调整也旨在加快决策和落地执行效率。</p><p>以MEGA和2024款理想L7/L8/L9同时上市为例,理想内部发现,理想MEGA节奏的失序,让销售团队大幅减少了服务L系列用户的时间和精力,主力车型理想L8甚至连店面摆放位置都没有。</p><p>此外,针对多款新品同时上市,导致销售端的一系列问题,包括人员培训不足、店端资源分配不合理等,理想希望通过新成立的GTM团队来提前介入统筹,进行避免。</p><p>据36氪汽车了解,经过调整后,目前理想的店端已经完成调整,例如在一些纯电渗透率较低的城市撤下MEGA展车,换成L8,将MEGA挪到了一二线城市。</p><p><strong>继续学华为,但要优化</strong></p><p>理想很早就意识到学习华为的重要性。2022年9月理想汽车雁栖湖战略会上,公司高层达成的重要共识就是,全面学习华为。</p><p>“我们惊奇地发现,我们在产品研发、销售服务、供应制造、组织财经等方面遇到的痛不欲生的问题,人家十几年前甚至二十年前就解决了。”李想曾在微博上说道。</p><p>于是,2022年底,理想在公司内部成立矩阵式组织,成立7个横向管理部门,分别对应7个一级流程:DSTE(从战略到执行)、IPD(集成产品开发)、IPMS(集成产品营销和销售)、ISC(集成供应链)、BT&IT、LTD、IFS(集成财经转型)。换句话说,理想的战略、产品、销服、供应链、财务等都想从华为习来心法。</p><p>以IPD为例,IPD是华为于 1999 年从 IBM 公司学习、演变而来的产品研发管理体系。正是这个体系,让华为广撒网式的研发项目得以落地、开花。理想ONE与理想L9、L8、L7的开发,也是理想早期单点学习IPD的产物。</p><p>为了更加深入学习华为的管理精髓,理想开始从华为引进核心高管人才。</p><p>2023年,从华为加入理想汽车的核心人物有两位:邹良军与李文智。邹良军曾是华为意大利终端公司部长,还负责过荣耀海外销售与服务内容,加入理想后,负责销售服务体系,向李想汇报。李文智则是原华为全球HRBP管理部部长,加入理想后负责组织变革,向CFO李铁汇报。</p><p>但学习华为,也可能带来排异反应。有理想人士表示:“每家模式不一样,把别人的模式套到自己头上,过程会很痛苦。”</p><p>因流程带来的冲突也时常发生。比如制定产品规划时,CEO办公室商业部需要销售团队提供明后年计划,才能锁定流程推进产品研发,但销售侧一些数据很难提前给出来,“双方僵持不下,有时候为了几辆展车数据吵得面红耳赤。”</p><p>这种时刻,李想会要求两个组严格按照流程强锁定,“他的逻辑就是先把流程固化下来,后面有问题再来解决。”</p><p>也因为矩阵式组织的关系,理想内部的很多决策需要横向拉通部门,集体决策。这在内部称为“共创会”。有理想员工表示,一些关键产品节点的共创会,往往是“周六早上9点开会,周日凌晨5点才走出办公室。”</p><p>但这些会议有时候并不都是高效的。理想人士也表示,很多决策需各自团队开很多会议,决策效率也不够高,最终影响了执行质量和执行效率。这也是理想更加深入学习华为组织建设、推出矩阵式组织2.0的重要原因。</p><p>新造车行业融合科技与制造,同时在实践新的商业模式和渠道创新,对于任何公司来说,都是全新挑战。</p><p>而就理想汽车而言,这家公司的价值底色一直是遇到问题,就快速反思、及时修正。此次矩阵组织2.0的推出,能否应对理想汽车年初的市场失利,尚难预测,但“开始纠偏并付诸行动”是任何公司走出风暴的不二选择。</p></body></html>","source":"36k","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" 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