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2020-08-18

$老虎证券(TIGR)$讲真，开盘这么久的走势，比前几次财报日强不少了，满足了，继续持有！

2021-03-25

$秦淮数据(CD)$加仓是魔鬼[流泪] [流泪] [流泪]

2020-08-18

$老虎证券(TIGR)$财报这么好，这是演哪出？

2020-08-13

$智勤控股(09913)$晕死，不是说老虎后台安排撤单的呢？怎么会显示申购成功啦？好悲剧！

2020-11-27

权利被驾空了，没意思了，就像刘强东说的，没有控制权，就拿钱走人！

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2018-11-02

$中国诚通发展集团(00217)$能不能拉升一波？

2021-08-26

$秦淮数据(CD)$财报挺好的啊！为什么呢？为什么呢？为什么呢？

2021-03-25

加仓是魔鬼[流泪] [流泪] [流泪]

2020-06-06

身边就大多数孩子上的学而思，没怎么听过跟谁学，所以跟着一起做空，应该没事！

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2020-01-23

$小米集团-W(01810)$ 继续加仓，每次大跌都是好机会

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tg-height=\"218\"></p><p>对于刚刚公布业绩远超预期就陷入“得屌丝者得天下”的小米来说，再一次引发了市场热议。林斌突然转换股份，如何解读，林斌又意欲何为？</p><p><b>　林斌是要准备减持套现吗？</b></p><p>小米拥有AB股，A类股不能自由流通，必须转为B类股才能流通，每股A类股可以转为一股B类股。</p><p>那么，林斌从A类股转为B类股是为了套现吗？</p><p>值得注意的是林斌从小米上市后至少套现了两次。</p><p>2019年8月，港交所披露易显示，林斌连续三日卖出小米股份，8月21日以9.0731港元卖出2670万股公司股票；8月22日卖出555.96万股，8月23日卖出904.76万股，三日共计卖出4130.72万股，套现大约3.7亿港元。</p><p>林斌套现后，引发了行业轩然大波，因为当时公司在不断回购股票，高管却选择减持套现，这种情况在成熟资本市场上并不多见。随后，股民用脚投票，小米股价不断承压。</p><p>今年9月24日，林斌通过大宗交易再度出售3.5亿股，套现近80亿亿港元，有接近小米的知情人士则表示，林斌并非要抛售套现，而是要委托给信托。</p><p>虽说是委托信托，但根据9月25日盘前数据，林斌的3.5亿股已经通过大宗交易卖出了，且在二级市场开始流通。通过本次出售，林斌累计套现78.925亿港元。</p><p>因此，本次林斌从A类股转为可流通的B类股，大家自然想到，林斌是否又要套现？</p><p>不过，上次减持3.5亿股后，小米紧急发布禁售期承诺，根据小米发布的自愿性公告得知，林斌剩余股份会锁定五年。即自9月15日起五年内，林斌及其控制实体均不会再出售股份，此前已安排捐赠给家族慈善基金的1.2亿股B类股除外。</p><p><img src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/finance/crawl/163/w550h413/20201127/df28-kentcvx9589248.png\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"413\"></p><p>因此，有香港券商分析人士对<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SINA\">新浪</a>港股表示，为安抚市场情绪，前有五年承诺，林斌此次应该不是为了减持套现。</p><p><b>那，林斌此举是为了什么呢？</b></p><p>小米作为港股第一家同股不同权企业，A类股拥有超级投票权，一股等于10票表决权，只有雷军和林斌持有；B类股市一股一票，除了雷军、林斌，各大创始人和投资者持有。</p><p>对于林斌此举真正意图，香港各大分析师也是观点不一。有分析师表示，“可能是技术性转换，因为要维持同股不同权的比例”；另有分析师表示，“他说他自己五年内不出售，无说其他人或受托人不能出售”；还有香港券商分析师表示，“林斌此举可能是要放权”。</p><p>辉立资本管理（香港）执行董事黄伟杰表示，“他早前持续抛售小米套现，本次A类股转为B类股可降低个人控制权。”还有业内分析人士表示，“削弱林斌投票权，理顺事权与投票权的统一关系，让做事的人有权利决定，利好小米未来发展。”</p><p>虽然，大家观点不一，但数据不会撒谎。</p><p>据新浪港股统计，转让之前，林斌持股22.68447亿股A类股和1.3147亿股B类股，持股占比9.94%，但拥有27.63%的投票权。雷军持股42.2664亿股A类股和24.439亿股B类股，持股占比27.56%，拥有54.14%的表决权。</p><p>不过，林斌此次转让之后，林斌持股不变，但表决权被稀释为10.22%，雷军表决权大幅提升至69.24%。雷军表决权的提升，将对公司重大决策方面的影响力更大。</p><p><b>　对于林斌此举会不会是为了退休？</b></p><p>某香港独立股评人几乎肯定地表示，“不太可能”。</p><p>此前，外界关于林斌可能在小米内部退居二线的猜测不断涌出。从2019年起，林斌职位有诸多变动，逐步卸任集团总裁、手机部总裁职务，继续担任集团副董事长，并从7月起出任小米新成立的战略委员会副主席。</p><p>2019年底，小米发布内部邮件，管理层晋升王翔为集团总裁，负责本公司全球业务以及中国大陆以外所有地区的营运。</p><p>2020年1月，常程加入小米，担任<a 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tg-height=\"360\"></p><p>11月27日消息，小米联合创始人林斌将18亿A类股转化为B类股。转换完成后，林斌持股A类股只有4.66亿股，持有B类股为19.33亿股。</p><p><img src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/finance/transform/768/w550h218/20201127/4b6c-kentcvx9367361.png\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"218\"></p><p>对于刚刚公布业绩远超预期就陷入“得屌丝者得天下”的小米来说，再一次引发了市场热议。林斌突然转换股份，如何解读，林斌又意欲何为？</p><p><b>　林斌是要准备减持套现吗？</b></p><p>小米拥有AB股，A类股不能自由流通，必须转为B类股才能流通，每股A类股可以转为一股B类股。</p><p>那么，林斌从A类股转为B类股是为了套现吗？</p><p>值得注意的是林斌从小米上市后至少套现了两次。</p><p>2019年8月，港交所披露易显示，林斌连续三日卖出小米股份，8月21日以9.0731港元卖出2670万股公司股票；8月22日卖出555.96万股，8月23日卖出904.76万股，三日共计卖出4130.72万股，套现大约3.7亿港元。</p><p>林斌套现后，引发了行业轩然大波，因为当时公司在不断回购股票，高管却选择减持套现，这种情况在成熟资本市场上并不多见。随后，股民用脚投票，小米股价不断承压。</p><p>今年9月24日，林斌通过大宗交易再度出售3.5亿股，套现近80亿亿港元，有接近小米的知情人士则表示，林斌并非要抛售套现，而是要委托给信托。</p><p>虽说是委托信托，但根据9月25日盘前数据，林斌的3.5亿股已经通过大宗交易卖出了，且在二级市场开始流通。通过本次出售，林斌累计套现78.925亿港元。</p><p>因此，本次林斌从A类股转为可流通的B类股，大家自然想到，林斌是否又要套现？</p><p>不过，上次减持3.5亿股后，小米紧急发布禁售期承诺，根据小米发布的自愿性公告得知，林斌剩余股份会锁定五年。即自9月15日起五年内，林斌及其控制实体均不会再出售股份，此前已安排捐赠给家族慈善基金的1.2亿股B类股除外。</p><p><img src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/finance/crawl/163/w550h413/20201127/df28-kentcvx9589248.png\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"413\"></p><p>因此，有香港券商分析人士对<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SINA\">新浪</a>港股表示，为安抚市场情绪，前有五年承诺，林斌此次应该不是为了减持套现。</p><p><b>那，林斌此举是为了什么呢？</b></p><p>小米作为港股第一家同股不同权企业，A类股拥有超级投票权，一股等于10票表决权，只有雷军和林斌持有；B类股市一股一票，除了雷军、林斌，各大创始人和投资者持有。</p><p>对于林斌此举真正意图，香港各大分析师也是观点不一。有分析师表示，“可能是技术性转换，因为要维持同股不同权的比例”；另有分析师表示，“他说他自己五年内不出售，无说其他人或受托人不能出售”；还有香港券商分析师表示，“林斌此举可能是要放权”。</p><p>辉立资本管理（香港）执行董事黄伟杰表示，“他早前持续抛售小米套现，本次A类股转为B类股可降低个人控制权。”还有业内分析人士表示，“削弱林斌投票权，理顺事权与投票权的统一关系，让做事的人有权利决定，利好小米未来发展。”</p><p>虽然，大家观点不一，但数据不会撒谎。</p><p>据新浪港股统计，转让之前，林斌持股22.68447亿股A类股和1.3147亿股B类股，持股占比9.94%，但拥有27.63%的投票权。雷军持股42.2664亿股A类股和24.439亿股B类股，持股占比27.56%，拥有54.14%的表决权。</p><p>不过，林斌此次转让之后，林斌持股不变，但表决权被稀释为10.22%，雷军表决权大幅提升至69.24%。雷军表决权的提升，将对公司重大决策方面的影响力更大。</p><p><b>　对于林斌此举会不会是为了退休？</b></p><p>某香港独立股评人几乎肯定地表示，“不太可能”。</p><p>此前，外界关于林斌可能在小米内部退居二线的猜测不断涌出。从2019年起，林斌职位有诸多变动，逐步卸任集团总裁、手机部总裁职务，继续担任集团副董事长，并从7月起出任小米新成立的战略委员会副主席。</p><p>2019年底，小米发布内部邮件，管理层晋升王翔为集团总裁，负责本公司全球业务以及中国大陆以外所有地区的营运。</p><p>2020年1月，常程加入小米，担任<a 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