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2018-05-30
$诺亚财富(NOAH)$被香港证监会处罚的那个诺亚是同一个吗?
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2020-01-16
$蔚来(NIO)$
停牌了,啥情况,难道要发公告辟谣
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2020-08-31
2020/08/31 交易笔记 by 光速能源
2020/08/31 成本 现价 浮动收益 特斯拉(TSLA) 428.19 2,216.99 417.75% 这他妈人生巅峰啊!
2020/08/31 交易笔记 by 光速能源
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2019-08-06
$诺亚财富(NOAH)$
差不多恐慌性杀跌了吧
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2020-02-29
$联合保健产品(AHPI)$
国家安全,停牌3个月
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2020-02-20
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
这么好的大市都不涨,也难得啊
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2018-11-21
$诺亚财富(NOAH)$涨涨涨
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2017-11-22
$迅雷(XNET)$ 迅雷的堕落之路,如此作死还让人如何爱你?2017-11-22 Win10之家后台满速上传太夸张 迅雷U享版你要干什么估计要出事啊
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2020-02-06
出这样的文章明显有点虚啊!
抱歉,原内容已删除
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2020-07-14
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
牛大
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2018-06-05
$美光科技(MU)$真是对中国政府的讽刺啊,反垄断调查出来反而涨,看来中国的半导体确实不行。
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2020-04-02
$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$
牛大
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2017-10-29
$AI Powered Equity ETF(AIEQ)$ 这个IBM的watson是个什么鬼,很多领域都能碰到。法律文件阅读、电能数据分析,现在还能选股票!
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PDD\">拼多多</a>等明星中概念股,都有过类似的遭遇。现在看来,真正健康的企业经此一役,似乎都毫发无损。这也印证了那句老话,打败你的从来不是外人,打不败你的会使你更强大。</p><p>当然,这一次瑞幸咖啡反击中的很多做法,有不少地方都值得称道。这对于其他将在境外上市的中国公司有着积极的标本意义。</p><p><strong>一、不慌不忙不打乱仗</strong></p><p>大部分公司遇到这样的事情,一般自己先乱了。</p><p>这种乱,首先表现在对外回应上,公司上下各个岗位都在反击。创始人一种说法,公关总监一种说法,一般都是廖廖数语,只有态度和情绪。公众只当是一个笑话,再次传播。</p><p>出现这样的局面,当然不能怪公众没有判断。人们都有先入为主的心理,像浑水研究发布的虽然是匿名作者提供的报告,但报告的包装、手法、用语都相当专业。我们先来看几句报告的原文:</p><p>“我们动员了92名全职和1418名兼职人员在现场进行监控,成功记录了981个店铺日客流量,覆盖了620家店铺100%的营业时间。”</p><p>“我们统计了每家店的客流量,并记录了从开门到关门的视频,平均每天11.5小时。当我们再次检查人流量和记录的视频时,如果视频监控丢失了超过10分钟的片段,我们就会丢弃一整天的数据。我们的成功率只有54%,因此所有成功的数据都是100%的完整。”</p><p>虽然事后证明,匿名作者提供给浑水研究的的报告,就是花了200元一天,请了不少兼职人员在店面看一看,数一数。数到一杯算一杯,一人多杯算一杯,一个袋子算一杯。有些兼职人员都不在岗,合理想象一下数据。不管调查方法还是调查模型都存在明显问题。</p><p>外界并不清楚这些内幕。这个时候的反击,如果只有情绪和不满,只有一句信息不实,是无法说服公众、媒体和投资人的。就像狗咬人,不能咬回去。那就成了狗咬狗,只会让公众看笑话。到那个时候,大家就都忘记浑水研究到底在质疑什么,各种各样的观点和情绪铺点盖地,又将引发第二轮、第三轮舆情。</p><p><strong>二、有理有据全面回应</strong></p><p>还有一些公司的管理层和董事会,可能连回应都不会发。</p><p>他们认为公司没问题,清者自清、浊者自浊,认为发声明会让事情更复杂,希望通过时间慢慢消化,希望公众慢慢淡忘。</p><p>这只是理想主义的想法。作为一家知名公司,公众和媒体既好奇又关切,一问三不知,无可奉告,只会火上浇油,甚至会引会部分媒体盲目跟风。这个时候的媒体,已经预先设置了立场,公众能够看到的公司形象,只有闪铄其词,答非所问,避虚就实。</p><p>一切都会向着最坏的方向发展。</p><p>这就是我想重点分析的,瑞幸咖啡声明中的学问。浑水研究的报告,主要问题还是调查方法不科学,分析结论预设立场。瑞幸咖啡针对不实指控一条一条回应。你质疑什么,我解答什么,见招折招,没有套话。</p><p>报告中质疑,2019年第三季度和第四季度店均日销售商品数被虚增。</p><p>瑞幸回应称,订单都是通过线上完成,并且自动记录在公司系统中,所有订单付款是通过第三方支付商完成。瑞幸咖啡的意思是说,每一个订单数据都是自动生成的,同时还生成了第三方的支付数据。就算你可以更改订单数据,改不了支付数据,这两个数据互相验证,完全可以确保订单的真实性。</p><p>报告中还质疑,2019年第三季度其他产品净收入被夸大。</p><p>瑞幸在回应中称,主要是该报告作者在计算来自其他产品净收入时参考了增值税,这明显存在对公司非现制产品适用增值税税率的误解,进而基于这一错误和毫无根据的假设而提出了不实指控。意思也非常简单,你用一个错误的方法,得出一个结论,然后根据这个结论,进行质疑。</p><p>看过这么多公司声明,这也是迄今为止最扎实、最强硬、最有底气的声明之一。</p><p><strong>三、步步推进强硬回击</strong></p><p>瑞幸咖啡的强硬还体现在其他细节中。</p><p>以前,很多公司的声明,都会加上一句“公司将保留追究法律责任的权利”。这句话的意思是说,暂时因为某些原因没有追究责任,但不排除以后可以提起诉讼追究责任的权利。这句话并不属于法律专业术语,也没有什么实质意义。</p><p>瑞幸咖啡在声明中明确说了,将采取措施追索这些恶意指控,以保护股东们的利益。也就是说,瑞幸咖啡不会只会一个声明了事,将会采取相关行动,追究恶意指控。</p><p>这在资本市场是有先例的。8年前,有做空机构得到匿名作者报告,以自己的名义发表,结果被香港证监会认定为“reckless”,罚没做空所得,负责人也被禁入香港市场五年。</p><p>一切显然还未结束,做空事件发生后,多家机构也纷纷表态。</p><p>“我们认为匿名沽空报告,主要基于不具代表性的草根调研和主观推断,亦缺乏有效证据。”2月4日,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/03908\">中金公司</a>披露研报分析,浑水研究报告中,单店平均观察时间约1.6天,单店平均小票数量仅11.7张,将观察不足2天的数据及少量小票信息递推至整个季度,样本数量有限缺乏合理性,另外报告对单店运营数据虚增的指控缺乏有效证据。</p><p>香橼资本创始人Andrew Left表态更为直接,如果瑞幸咖啡能克服全球公共卫生事件所带来的负面影响,该公司股价或将翻番至60美元。</p><p>2月4日晚间美股开盘,瑞幸咖啡在盘初即发力上行,盘中一度涨逾17%,截至收盘报36.24美元,大涨15.60%。</p><p>浑水研究做空中概股也不是首次失手。2012年做空新东方,新东方在短暂下跌后由于正面回应而回归正常。在和安踏来来回回长达5次的拉锯战中,安踏股价也不跌反涨。</p><p>是的,做空机制与做多机制一样,对完善的资本市场十分重要。不过,首先要确保引用数据准确,分析方法科学。只顾浑水摸鱼,鱼没摸到还会一身腥。</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>瑞幸这一波反击浑水,有不少做法值得称道</title>\n<style 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