【热议】微信 VS iPhone 16，二选一？ - 老虎社区

09-03

苹果税风波又起！如果微信 VS iPhone 16，你会选谁？

微信刚PK完华为，又开始PK苹果了？9月2日网传称，微信可能不支持iPhone 16，并提醒用户一定不要更新系统[呆住][呆住]传言的起因就是苹果想要对微信小程序部分抽成，但30%的”苹果税“ 腾讯当然也不乐意，于是两个巨头就有点不愉快。不过微信和苹果都有非常庞大的用户基数群体，苹果&微信闹到需要二选一的情况很难真的发生。。[保佑]有人说支持苹果维护自己的生态系统，也有人表示就单说在国内，没了苹果我们还有安卓，但没了微信，还有什么可以替代呢？[吃瓜] 不过就单看上半年手机市场份额来说，苹果或许也没有绝对的优势，最后一定是互相的妥协，双赢的局面~ $苹果(AAPL)$ $腾讯控股(00700)$ 亲爱的小虎们，腾讯VS苹果[安慰]你更离不开微信，还是苹果？如果没有了微信，你还会买iPhone 16吗？评论区分享你的观点看法，一起瓜分1000虎币奖励！🎁🎁

苹果税风波又起！如果微信 VS iPhone 16，你会选谁？

09-04

$腾讯控股(00700)$ 中立态度，参考欧盟反垄断，苹果最后给出17%的税方案并且支持第三方支付。小程序层面，苹果应该收取的税是3%到10%，小程序是微信生态带来的，并不是苹果手机促成的，苹果要收的就是基建费用（是不是各国电信运营商还得跟手机收取基建税？按理说应该要），即使要这个税，苹果应该联合的是华米OV找微信要这个税，会获得更多民意支持。因为微信绕开的不止苹果一家（我没有怎么用过安卓微信端，如有错误请指正）现实一些，如果华米OV之前针对微信小程序跟微信收了税了，和微信达成协议了，那苹果有很好的参考。总结，我赞成苹果针对微信小程序收少量费用，3%到10%，屏幕或手机使用时长超过一定程度的，收税更多，只是把手机当作交易工具的，参考电商即可。

有钱就有爱0

09-03

$苹果(AAPL)$ 我草，肯定选微信啊，现在微信真的已经成了不可或缺的一部分了，我也不是什么忠实的果粉，不会选择双持，感觉太麻烦了，这苹果是真黑啊，税收这么高，感觉这么一直刚到最后，腾讯会走到最后，我保守估计90%的人都会选择vx吧，剩下10%双持，已经是很高的比例了，但接下来的16发布会，国内销量肯定会受很大影响，估计还会迎来一波下跌，今晚再看看，打算空它。

09-04

$苹果(AAPL)$ $腾讯控股(00700)$ 苹果用户一觉醒来，天都塌了！[笑哭] 竟然可以硬抗微信用户，不是自招作死吗？

勇敢小飞猪

09-03

苹果和微信，肯定离不开 $腾讯控股(00700)$ 微信，毕竟它不只是社交软件，还有娱乐，工作，支付多功能的软件。没有苹果也不能没有微信，但是 $苹果(AAPL)$ 持有它的股票的人，股价下跌，就很多人不开心了，没有微信，跟买不买苹果不是必要条件，是有没有钱的问题 [贱笑] [贱笑]

山东菏泽曹县首负

09-04

$苹果(AAPL)$ $腾讯控股(00700)$ 有没有一种可能，这其实是发布会前的营销手段呢？[喷血] 反正9号发布会还有几天，到时候啥都知道了

09-07

这是个难以选择的问题，可能更多人会选择微信，

09-03

怎么会有人选苹果，不选微信呢？搞不懂[摊手] 微信：手机支付，日常社交，工作，苹果，就是一部手机呀

09-04

这个新闻太假了，明显就是故意发消息给苹果增加舆论压力。

09-03

腾讯看看自己的充值报表吧，iOS用户贡献多少安卓用户贡献多少。脑子没进水就不会瞎杠

下周减肥大胃蔡

09-04

最终会妥协，苹果不能失去中国市场，微信也不能失去苹果用户，不合作只会两败俱伤，但苹果的护城河已经松动了。

09-03

腾讯还有出海业务，苹果还要中国市场，谁都离不开谁吧，非要用户二选一，我选择再买个一两千的安卓机一起用。。 $苹果(AAPL)$

传说交易员

09-04

我选择苹果手机，可靠，安全性，值得信赖，反正我微信也就一个收付款作用，苹果只要能取代收付款功能，微信，我可以下架

金钱无极限

09-04

各位真的觉得苹果会在iPhone不能使用微信的前提下在中国售卖iPhone？我想知道这个传言是谁发的

09-05

微信滚出苹果

09-05

最好下架微信

09-03

肯定微信啊，苹果也是真的狂的没边了，如果真下架微信，他在中国才是真的叫天天不灵

09-06

华为照样收

金钱无极限

09-04

苹果是卖应用的不是卖手机，市占率不是最高，但利润率和资金周转率是最好的

09-03

无条件支持腾讯，苹果不过系美国佬的产品，用唔用都无所谓。

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反正9号发布会还有几天，到时候啥都知道了","text":"$苹果(AAPL)$ $腾讯控股(00700)$ 有没有一种可能，这其实是发布会前的营销手段呢？[喷血] 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