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小猴几
2021-03-26
$波音(BA)$
今年年底前看到300,随着疫苗接种和全球继续放水,今年报复性出游必将发生。一旦恢复737和787的正常交付,现金流必然转正,甚至可能因为去年的大量裁人,数字变得更加好看。当然,这个是建立在美股大环境不崩的基础上
小猴几
2020-12-04
$波音(BA)$
嗯,波音吹,又是我。年中的时候预测兑现,200左右波动了很久,现在往300去了。今天聊聊我对未来的想法吧,不只是波音。我觉得人类文明发展至今,宏观层面已经接近瓶颈了。在哪最有可能突破瓶颈呢?美中欧都不约而同地指向了航天计划。不远的未来,载人商用航天技术就会成熟。再往后,星际移民才有可能使人类文明登上下一个台阶。我相信在这未来很长的一段时间里,像波音、SpaceX这样的公司是真正值得投资的,因为他们在星际航行的时代里是社会发展的重要推动力。因此,即使不从财务角度出发,我也会为了心中的理想持有一点点他们的股票。这次的展望可能有点抽象,说是憧憬也不为过,但我相信,人类一定可以做到。因为如果做不到的话,人类受限于地球资源,一定是没有前途的
小猴几
2020-08-06
$波音(BA)$
说实话1.25M不算多,比起悬而未决强多了
小猴几
2020-08-04
$波音(BA)$
现在的波音,有点像去年8月的特斯拉。刚刚摆脱流动性危机,又面临市场的不确定性。相同点是特斯拉在新能源汽车产业几乎是垄断的,波音在航空领域也垄断了一半市场。只要看好这个行业,那拿着波音就没有问题
小猴几
2020-07-29
我看波音0729
$波音(BA)$
又是我,3月19号安利波音,并且说波音股价中短期波动在180以内。那个时候波音股价不到100。今天跟大家分享一下我现在对波音的分析。大家都看到了,二季度波音交付只有二十架,创几十年来记录,甚至仓库堆满没地方存了。真的太惨了,但是股价也只从230掉回170左右震荡。为什么呢?很简单,因为这部分堆积的飞机不是卖不出去,是暂时没法交付。一般来说,航空公司会根据自己的议价能力交定金给波音,等波音交付时再支付尾款,尾款部分占总金额大头。受限于疫情,大部分欧洲亚洲的航空公司没法去美国确认交付。其实就航空公司来说,就算能去他们也不想去,因为飞机取回来也没市场用。怎么办?那就拖着呗,自己取回来还得负责保养和存放,还不如让波音代劳。但是随着欧洲亚洲疫情控制得当,航空业在重启,市场回来了。而且,一直存在波音也不是个事儿,毕竟以后还要合作。撕破脸对谁都不好,难道以后真要全买空客嘛?所以这部分现金流不是流失,而是延后,并且很快就要发生。真正损失掉的,是新增被取消的订单。这部分订单跟总订单比起来还在可以接受的范围,毕竟该取消的早就取消了,已经反映在之前的暴跌里了,所以这些新增取消订单并未引起太大恐慌。而且就像我前文所说,波音的国防业务会给出支持的,毕竟国防部也不希望洛马一家独大。这个季度的经营现金流恐怕会很难看,因为交付量太少。但是波音的发债成功解决了短期的流动性危机,又有国防部大单撑着,估计中期是会平稳渡过的。长期很简单,max机型复飞,订单回归,股价回归。不会真的有人相信这个机型会挂掉吧?所以我再来大言不惭预测一波,下半年股价会在200-300波动,视max机型复飞而定。当然了,还是老话,本文不构成任何投资建议。坐等打脸[开心]
我看波音0729
小猴几
2020-07-14
$跟谁学(GSX)$
200亿市值坚持了四天,其中还有两天是周末[开心]目送拉总一路走好
小猴几
2020-07-14
$跟谁学(GSX)$
不像拉总平时的操盘手法,他可是不看大盘的。昨天竟然跟大盘走,感觉要出事儿了。坐等看戏
小猴几
2020-07-10
$跟谁学(GSX)$
今天去Twitter看了一下,关于GSX中外网友难得一致了一次[开心]
小猴几
2020-07-10
$跟谁学(GSX)$
个人观点,跟谁学逼空以后会成为一个经典案例,足以比肩08年大众逼空。不过大众之后怎么样,也是有目共睹
小猴几
2020-07-10
$跟谁学(GSX)$
🐮🍺🐮🍺,上半年做空瑞幸赚的钱全交回去了,就当交学费了,无事发生。瑞幸和跟谁学给我的教育如下:1.小盘中概股以后不碰了,做空做多风险都太大2.老板控盘的小盘中概股以后不碰了,做空做多风险都太大3河南、福建老板控盘的小盘中概股以后不碰了,做空做多风险都太大另外,这股注定会一地**。一个季度涨四倍,没有任何业绩支撑啊朋友们,甚至都没发过财报。只能说拉总现在拉的越高,留给做空机构盈利的空间就越大,真要拼起资金,老庄不一定是浑水+香椽的对手。我就等看戏了
小猴几
2020-07-08
$跟谁学(GSX)$
给拉总出个主意,直接拉到伯克希尔的价位,然后学学成为全球市值最高的公司,拉总成为世界首富,顺便还能捞些知名度。我相信美好,不知道拉总意下如何
小猴几
2020-07-08
1200亿人民币的市值,谁会相信呢?话又说回来,咖啡的市值也曾经有1200亿人民币呢
小猴几
2020-07-03
$跟谁学(GSX)$
我就想知道,拉总能不能纯靠操盘真拉到新东方的市值
小猴几
2020-06-08
挖个老坟,不得不说老虎的仄气真重
@小猴几:$拼多多(PDD)$ 媳妇本就靠你了
小猴几
2020-06-08
$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$
两个关键时间点:6.15-6.30听证会8.30前后完成退市听证会翻盘是不可能的,在现在的中美关系下退市才是政治正确。8.30前后的put只是赚多赚少。我会实盘买。不要买更早的期权,因为中国人素来有炒ST的习惯。此贴不构成投资建议。
小猴几
2020-06-03
$跟谁学(GSX)$
6月6日上市满一周年,解禁+窗口期[贱笑]
小猴几
2020-05-08
$跟谁学(GSX)$
有一说一,现在嘲笑香椽的人数可比2月份嘲笑浑水的人数少多了。当时不光股民嘲笑浑水,连投资机构和媒体都一起出来嘲笑浑水,甚至当时还有人拿茅台对比瑞幸呢[贱笑]
小猴几
2020-05-08
$跟谁学(GSX)$
首先说下我空仓的历史真实持仓:2019年30左右做空虎牙(已平),2019年9块左右做空蔚来(已平),2020年40左右做空瑞幸(停牌未平),2020年40左右做空跟谁学,持仓。当我做空时一般选择用期权,因为这些控盘比较集中的公司融券利率很高。非常吃得准的一般选择short call,其余的选择long put+short put。另外,做空的风险很大,请不要全仓做空,一定要保持一定仓位的多仓。我一般会选择大盘蓝筹股,充分对冲大盘上涨的风险。还有,请不要高估做空报告的影响。瑞幸这件事上,浑水的报告2月就出了,股价没受太大影响,甚至无数机构和媒体都出来站台瑞幸嘲笑浑水。真正一锤定音的还是4月迫于压力的自爆。跟谁学在我看来一定是被高估的。在线教育这个行业不存在技术护城河,师资也不能算护城河,因为老师们一定会投奔待遇更好的平台。这种情况下,最后一定是winner takes all。因此跟谁学的估值会缓慢回归正常。财务欺诈是另一种情况,不敢妄言。但是如果暴雷就跟瑞幸一样,甚至比瑞幸还惨。瑞幸好歹还有点机器、家具和豆子哈哈哈。仅供参考,不构成任何投资建议。
小猴几
2020-04-02
$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$
[思考]
小猴几
2020-03-19
我为什么现在开始看好波音了
$波音(BA)$
实在看不下去了,带你们梳理一下现在投资波音的逻辑。认真看过波音财报的同学都知道,波音的业务主要来自三个方面:太空与国防,服务,以及民用航空。近年来,对应板块分别占整体收入的25%,15%,55%。这波暴跌,波音的市值从高点跌去了差不多80%。但是就算民用业务和后续服务业务全部归零,单单军用业务就可以支持现在的市值。更何况,波音民用归零了是想让国产大飞机去接下全球航空一半的市场嘛?想想也知道不可能。再举个不恰当的例子,前年GE为什么跌到20%跌不下去了?因为GE医疗和能源的业务就能稳撑住20%的市值。就算地产、资本这些板块归零了也跌不到更低了。后来,慢慢不也涨上来了嘛。还有流动性问题?拜托了,美国政府真会允许这么一个优质资产,国之重器,民族骄傲,防务之光,太空先驱,纳税大户,就业大王因为流动性问题破产?波音可是少数几个**党和共和党都去站台的公司。而且,你是想说美联储完全没从雷曼兄弟的case上学习到一丁点经验教训?那些不会思考的键盘侠,建议你们用自己叠的纸飞机去参加F系列投标。综上所述,对比GE,波音可能会中短期在80-180筑底,然后市值会慢慢回复。唯一要害怕的就是会不会有华尔街大佬盘算更大的阴谋,就是肢解波音。这方面就不详细论述了,反正也不是你我能掌控的对吧。
我为什么现在开始看好波音了
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