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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-08-11
  难啊[喷血] [喷血]
  未卖一车却先被“卖身”，恒大汽车还有未来吗？
  1.2018年～2020年，恒大汽车每年都在亏损，三年亏损总计近136亿元，今年上半年，预亏48亿元。 2.恒大汽车早前发布了9款车型，但截至目前一车未卖。 3.造车前期投入堪比无底洞，负债压力下，或
  未卖一车却先被“卖身”，恒大汽车还有未来吗？
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-29
  $海底捞(06862)$ 下海捞结果淹了 5%[无语] [无语] [无语]
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-28
  $英伟达(NVDA)$好像很厉害哦
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-27
  $中国恒大(03333)$你恒了好久[喷血] [喷血] [喷血]
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-26
  可以再进场了[喷血] [喷血] [喷血]
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-26
  是在捞低吗？[龇牙] [龇牙] [龇牙]
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-25
  125 就有点红包钱🧧[得意]
  非常抱歉，此主贴已删除
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-25
  $腾讯控股ADR(TCEHY)$[喷血] [喷血] [喷血] 赶上了
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-24
  你今天好过份喔[喷血] [喷血] [喷血]
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- GameKKGameKK
  ·2021-07-24
  $ARK Innovation ETF(ARKK)$我等着你回来[财迷] [财迷] [喷血] [喷血] [鬼脸] [鬼脸]
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King公司(全资持有FF香港与FF美国)45%的股权，成为其第一大股东。三个月后又斥资近150亿元，收购汽车经销商广汇集团40%股份，成为其第二大股东，并打通后续经销商体系。</p>\n<p>不仅如此，恒大汽车还在2019年，相继收购了瑞典电动汽车公司NEVS、荷兰商用车轮毂电机驱动技术公司e-Traction等汽车产业链公司，进行相关技术的研发工作。</p>\n<p>在建厂方面，恒大汽车更是舍得投资。2019年分别投资1600亿元、1200亿元在广州南沙区及沈阳建设以新能源汽车为主的基地项目；2020年投资100亿，在上海建立恒大动力电机生产基地，年规划产能20万套电机，拟于2022年建成投产。</p>\n<p>但出手阔绰的恒大汽车，其实更像一个“空壳”，既没有自己的核心技术也没有车企的严谨。“哪有一家车企会同时发布9款车型？这已经违反了行业逻辑。”汽车领域分析师表示，成本很难在短期内消化下去。</p>\n<p>以造车新势力中的理想汽车为例，在2019年大规模量产后，仅有一款在售车型，2021年发布的理想ONE改款车型，也不过是在现款的基础上，对其自动驾驶辅助系统、增程电动系统等方面进行了系统性升级。</p>\n<p>可见多款车型同时发售，对任何一家造车企业而言，都不是件容易的事，更何况还是在没有量产的情况下，同时发布9款车型，无形中增加了多重压力。而对智能汽车行业来说，整个行业都处于加速发展的状态，今天的新款或许就会变成明天的旧款，停止产品的演进及更新便会成为“落后者”。</p>\n<p>而在成为“落后者”之前，恒大汽车必须要先把自己卖出去。</p>","source":"lsy1570585487130","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta 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