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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-05-14
  great news !
  U.S. senators expected to announce $52 bln chips funding deal -- sources
  May 14 - A bipartisan group of U.S. senators is expected to unveil a $52 billion proposal on Friday that would significantly boost U.S. semiconductor chip production and research over five years, sources briefed on the matter said.Senators Mark Kelly, John Cornyn, Mark Warner and Tom Cotton have been negotiating a compromise measure to address the issue in the face of rising Chinese semiconductor production and shortages impacting automakers and other U.S. industries. The chips funding is expec
  U.S. senators expected to announce $52 bln chips funding deal -- sources
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-15
  interesting stock
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-15
  $Datadog(DDOG 20220121 90.0 CALL)$
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-15
  $Alibaba(BABA 20220121 230.0 CALL)$
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-12
  double gap up please
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-08
  bullish and undervalued!
  Charlie Munger Just Bought Alibaba Stock: Should You?
  Warren Buffett's longtime partner just took a big stake in the Chinese e-commerce giant.
  Charlie Munger Just Bought Alibaba Stock: Should You?
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-06
  wow so bullish
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- chinernchinern
  ·2021-04-06
  meh
  Bitcoin Is Going Mainstream. What Investors Need to Know.
  Bitcoin is either a massive bubble or the digital currency of the future. The reality is likely some
  Bitcoin Is Going Mainstream. What Investors Need to Know.
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The chips funding is expected to be included in a bill the Senate will take up next week on funding basic U.S. and advanced technology research. (Reporting by David Shepardson and Michael Martina)</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1187261016","content_text":"May 14 (Reuters) - A bipartisan group of U.S. senators is expected to unveil a $52 billion proposal on Friday that would significantly boost U.S. semiconductor chip production and research over five years, sources briefed on the matter said.Senators Mark Kelly, John Cornyn, Mark Warner and Tom Cotton have been negotiating a compromise measure to address the issue in the face of rising Chinese semiconductor production and shortages impacting automakers and other U.S. industries. 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Munger, 97, is still active in the investing world, not only through his activities at Berkshire, but also as chairman of the <b>Daily Journal Corporation </b>(NASDAQ:DJCO).</p>\n<p>Munger bought the Daily Journal decades ago when he was still running his own investment fund, for just $2.5 million. After his fund dissolved, Munger distributed shares to his partners, but he still owns around 3.6% of the company, now valued at a whopping $455 million.</p>\n<p>One interesting feature of the Daily Journal, which historically published a legal newspaper and more recently began selling courthouse software, is that it takes cash flow from its core businesses and reinvests it into equities, mostly large U.S. banks.</p>\n<p>This week, Munger and company turned some heads when the Daily Journal disclosed a $37 million stake in Chinese e-commerce giant <b>Alibaba Group Holding</b>&nbsp;(NYSE:BABA), good for 19% of the company's equity portfolio, making it the company's third-largest position behind <b>Bank of America</b>&nbsp;and <b>Wells Fargo</b>.</p>\n<p>Is Alibaba really a Munger-style value stock? And should you follow him into the Chinese giant?</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/088bcf56b1eb756386dbb32f48ea441c\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"432\"><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p>\n<h2>The case for Alibaba as a value stock</h2>\n<p>Alibaba's stock has languished somewhat recently despite delivering good results, so it's no wonder Munger might have thought the company a good value at today's prices. The recent controversy around founder Jack Ma and the aborted IPO for Ant Financial, of which Alibaba holds a <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE\">one</a>-third stake, has likely played a role. Antitrust concerns in China have been an added drag. Furthermore, Alibaba is facing stiff competition in the e-commerce space from <b>JD.com</b>&nbsp;as well as the explosive discount-buying upstart <b>Pinduoduo</b>.</p>\n<p>However, Buffett once quipped, \"You pay a high price for a cheery consensus.\" Amid these concerns, Alibaba trades just around 25 times trailing earnings and under 19 times this year's earnings estimates. That's much cheaper than all of the FAANG stocks in the U.S., which is surprising given Alibaba's still strong growth rates and the growing middle class in China.</p>\n<h2>But Alibaba may be even cheaper than that</h2>\n<p>As is the case with several large technology conglomerates, Munger may be looking at various parts of Alibaba's sprawling empire, and might have realized these parts add up to much more than Alibaba's current market value.</p>\n<p>For <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> thing, Alibaba has a significant amount of cash on its balance sheet, along with large stakes in private companies like Ant Group as well as publicly traded companies. As of Dec. 31, 2021, its balance sheet included $47.8 billion in cash, $22.1 billion in short-term securities, $36.8 billion in other publicly traded equity securities, and another $28.4 billion in equity method investees, such as Ant Group. Those assets add up to $135.1 billion, against just about $18 billion in short and long-term debt.</p>\n<p>So while Alibaba currently sports a market cap of $615 billion or so, it's really only about $500 billion when stripping out these net assets. That's very cheap compared with Alibaba's current operating income, which totaled $14.9 billion through the first nine months of fiscal 2021, good for nearly a $20 billion run rate.</p>\n<p>Yet even that operating income figure may underrate Alibaba's true earnings power. That's because the company is aggressively investing the large cash flows from its core e-commerce platform into other parts of its operations. In fact, Alibaba is experiencing losses in a large number of its higher-growth business, including its local consumer services business, logistics arm Cainiao, Southeast Asian e-commerce firm Lazada Group, and its cloud computing and digital entertainment businesses. Over the past nine months, these cumulative losses decreased real operating income by about $5 billion, even though these divisions likely have significant positive value.</p>\n<h2>It all adds up to a bargain, in Munger's eyes</h2>\n<p>One could say Alibaba's core e-commerce operating income was almost $20 billion for the nine months ended in December, good for an annual run rate around $26 billion. Against $500 billion in enterprise value, that's less than a 20 times EBIT multiple. And this is for a company that grew revenue 37% last quarter. That seems like a pretty good deal.</p>\n<p>One particular reason to be bullish is Alibaba's cloud computing division. Last quarter, cloud revenue was up 50%, and that division also just recorded its first quarter of positive adjusted EBITA. Most think cloud is in its relatively early stages, especially in China, so that division likely has significant value going forward that hasn't contributed anything to overall company operating profits yet.</p>\n<h2>Alibaba looks like a good deal, if you can handle the China risk</h2>\n<p>All in all, Alibaba stock looks like a great value, provided investors can handle the China risk. Of note, the SEC just adopted a rule that will require U.S.-listed Chinese companies to be audited by U.S. tax authorities, as well as disclose Communist Party affiliations. Therefore, some Chinese securities have sold off on further U.S.-China tension fears.</p>\n<p>However, Munger is a noted bull on China. He may think these headlines are more dire than the business reality. If that turns out to be true, he and the Daily Journal may have indeed gotten a bargain in Alibaba's stock.</p>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Charlie Munger Just Bought Alibaba Stock: Should You?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCharlie Munger Just Bought Alibaba Stock: Should You?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-08 21:28 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/08/charlie-munger-just-bought-alibaba-stock-should-yo/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Warren Buffett's longtime partner just took a big stake in the Chinese e-commerce giant.\nMany investors follow Warren Buffett's every move, but many also pay close attention to his longtime partner ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/08/charlie-munger-just-bought-alibaba-stock-should-yo/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/08/charlie-munger-just-bought-alibaba-stock-should-yo/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2125770926","content_text":"Warren Buffett's longtime partner just took a big stake in the Chinese e-commerce giant.\nMany investors follow Warren Buffett's every move, but many also pay close attention to his longtime partner and Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) (NYSE:BRK.B) Vice Chairman Charlie Munger. Munger, 97, is still active in the investing world, not only through his activities at Berkshire, but also as chairman of the Daily Journal Corporation (NASDAQ:DJCO).\nMunger bought the Daily Journal decades ago when he was still running his own investment fund, for just $2.5 million. After his fund dissolved, Munger distributed shares to his partners, but he still owns around 3.6% of the company, now valued at a whopping $455 million.\nOne interesting feature of the Daily Journal, which historically published a legal newspaper and more recently began selling courthouse software, is that it takes cash flow from its core businesses and reinvests it into equities, mostly large U.S. banks.\nThis week, Munger and company turned some heads when the Daily Journal disclosed a $37 million stake in Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba Group Holding (NYSE:BABA), good for 19% of the company's equity portfolio, making it the company's third-largest position behind Bank of America and Wells Fargo.\nIs Alibaba really a Munger-style value stock? And should you follow him into the Chinese giant?\nImage source: Getty Images.\nThe case for Alibaba as a value stock\nAlibaba's stock has languished somewhat recently despite delivering good results, so it's no wonder Munger might have thought the company a good value at today's prices. The recent controversy around founder Jack Ma and the aborted IPO for Ant Financial, of which Alibaba holds a one-third stake, has likely played a role. Antitrust concerns in China have been an added drag. Furthermore, Alibaba is facing stiff competition in the e-commerce space from JD.com as well as the explosive discount-buying upstart Pinduoduo.\nHowever, Buffett once quipped, \"You pay a high price for a cheery consensus.\" Amid these concerns, Alibaba trades just around 25 times trailing earnings and under 19 times this year's earnings estimates. That's much cheaper than all of the FAANG stocks in the U.S., which is surprising given Alibaba's still strong growth rates and the growing middle class in China.\nBut Alibaba may be even cheaper than that\nAs is the case with several large technology conglomerates, Munger may be looking at various parts of Alibaba's sprawling empire, and might have realized these parts add up to much more than Alibaba's current market value.\nFor one thing, Alibaba has a significant amount of cash on its balance sheet, along with large stakes in private companies like Ant Group as well as publicly traded companies. As of Dec. 31, 2021, its balance sheet included $47.8 billion in cash, $22.1 billion in short-term securities, $36.8 billion in other publicly traded equity securities, and another $28.4 billion in equity method investees, such as Ant Group. Those assets add up to $135.1 billion, against just about $18 billion in short and long-term debt.\nSo while Alibaba currently sports a market cap of $615 billion or so, it's really only about $500 billion when stripping out these net assets. That's very cheap compared with Alibaba's current operating income, which totaled $14.9 billion through the first nine months of fiscal 2021, good for nearly a $20 billion run rate.\nYet even that operating income figure may underrate Alibaba's true earnings power. That's because the company is aggressively investing the large cash flows from its core e-commerce platform into other parts of its operations. In fact, Alibaba is experiencing losses in a large number of its higher-growth business, including its local consumer services business, logistics arm Cainiao, Southeast Asian e-commerce firm Lazada Group, and its cloud computing and digital entertainment businesses. Over the past nine months, these cumulative losses decreased real operating income by about $5 billion, even though these divisions likely have significant positive value.\nIt all adds up to a bargain, in Munger's eyes\nOne could say Alibaba's core e-commerce operating income was almost $20 billion for the nine months ended in December, good for an annual run rate around $26 billion. Against $500 billion in enterprise value, that's less than a 20 times EBIT multiple. And this is for a company that grew revenue 37% last quarter. That seems like a pretty good deal.\nOne particular reason to be bullish is Alibaba's cloud computing division. Last quarter, cloud revenue was up 50%, and that division also just recorded its first quarter of positive adjusted EBITA. Most think cloud is in its relatively early stages, especially in China, so that division likely has significant value going forward that hasn't contributed anything to overall company operating profits yet.\nAlibaba looks like a good deal, if you can handle the China risk\nAll in all, Alibaba stock looks like a great value, provided investors can handle the China risk. Of note, the SEC just adopted a rule that will require U.S.-listed Chinese companies to be audited by U.S. tax authorities, as well as disclose Communist Party affiliations. Therefore, some Chinese securities have sold off on further U.S.-China tension fears.\nHowever, Munger is a noted bull on China. He may think these headlines are more dire than the business reality. If that turns out to be true, he and the Daily Journal may have indeed gotten a bargain in Alibaba's stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":126,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":343616139,"gmtCreate":1617712584021,"gmtModify":1634296988531,"author":{"id":"3543278532010317","authorId":"3543278532010317","name":"chinern","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9f6a9742a15ee7c865f899b5371f024d","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3543278532010317","idStr":"3543278532010317"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"wow so bullish","listText":"wow so bullish","text":"wow so bullish","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/343616139","repostId":"1172538226","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":174,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":343616983,"gmtCreate":1617712552942,"gmtModify":1634296988772,"author":{"id":"3543278532010317","authorId":"3543278532010317","name":"chinern","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9f6a9742a15ee7c865f899b5371f024d","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3543278532010317","idStr":"3543278532010317"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"meh","listText":"meh","text":"meh","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/343616983","repostId":"1167453696","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1167453696","pubTimestamp":1617635757,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1167453696?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-05 23:15","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Bitcoin Is Going Mainstream. What Investors Need to Know.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1167453696","media":"Barrons","summary":"Bitcoin is either a massive bubble or the digital currency of the future.\nThe reality is likely some","content":"<p>Bitcoin is either a massive bubble or the digital currency of the future.</p>\n<p>The reality is likely somewhere in the middle. Either way, the cryptocurrency is working itself into the mainstream financial world, achieving the scale and critical mass that may make it increasingly difficult to dislodge or restrain.</p>\n<p>With its market value hovering around $1 trillion, Bitcoin (BTC) has become too large and influential to remain on the financial fringes. Wall Street is pumping out reports on cryptos. Piper Sandler issued a 30-page report on Thursday, noting that the “crypto-economy could be entering a pivotal point in its development/lifecycle.”</p>\n<p>Coinbase Global, the largest U.S. crypto exchange and custodian, says it plans to go public on April 14 in what may be the largest tech IPO since&nbsp;Facebook(ticker: FB) in 2012. Private valuations peg Coinbase at $68 billion. The firm custodies an estimated $90 billion in crypto assets on its platform. It had revenue of $1.3 billion in 2020 and profits of $322 million, according to a regulatory filing.</p>\n<p>Fintechs see Bitcoin and other cryptos as a vast new market for payments and transaction services.Visasays it plans to settle transactions in a “stablecoin,” USD Coin (USDC). About $10 billion of USDC is now circulating, according to Visa, which sees it used for everything from buying a cup of coffee to cross-border payments, trade settlements, or foreign money transfers. Stablecoins are like digital dollars, pegged in value to the buck.</p>\n<p>Other votes of confidence in Bitcoin are coming fromTesla(TSLA),PayPal Holdings(PYPL) andSquare(SQ), all of which are now offering ways to transact in Bitcoin or other cryptos.</p>\n<p>And there are expanding ways to invest, including derivatives, stocks and holding companies like the&nbsp;Grayscale Bitcoin Trust&nbsp;(GBTC). Fund sponsors are also angling to launch a U.S.-listed exchange-traded fund (catching up to Canada, where&nbsp;Bitcoin ETFs recently started trading).</p>\n<p>U.S. fund sponsors filing for approvals recently include Fidelity Investments, VanEck,WisdomTree Investments(WETF), SkyBridge Capital, Valkyrie Digital Assets, and NYDIG Asset Management, according to Piper Sandler.</p>\n<p>The Securities and Exchange Commission has so far declined to approve a Bitcoin ETF, citing concerns about volatility, price transparency, and market manipulation. However, the Biden Administration’s nominee for SEC chairman, Gary Gensler, may take a friendlier approach. Gensler previously ran the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and has studied cryptos extensively. “This is good news for the digital assets industry,” wrote Jeff Bandman, a former CFTC official in aposton CoinDesk.</p>\n<p>As Bitcoin becomes entrenched, it may only get harder for regulators to restrain. Its growing acceptance as an alternative investment or transaction currency is far outpacing regulatory controls. That, in turn, could improve the investment case for owning it, according to Piper Sandler.</p>\n<p>“Many investors view this scale as a safeguard against potentially overbearing regulations from governments in the developed world,” Piper says. Investing in Bitcoin, the firm adds, is a “quasi call option for both individuals and institutions on this new and potentially disruptive technology.”</p>\n<p>Some economists also view Bitcoin’s rising clout as a means of keeping regulators at bay.</p>\n<p>“My read on the last six to 12 months is that as influential investors come in, it puts pressure on regulators not to do anything,” says Harvard economist Kenneth Rogoff, who doesn’t expect regulators to sit on their hands forever.</p>\n<p>Bitcoin and other crytpos are regulated by various federal agencies and states, but they aren’t entirely clear or consistent. The IRS classifies cryptos as property, for instance, subjecting it to capital-gains tax. The CFTC said in 2015 that virtual currencies should be “properly defined as commodities.” Banks, for their part, are now allowed to custody cryptos, conduct banking in stablecoins, and participate in blockchain networks under guidelines from the U.S. Comptroller of the Currency.</p>\n<p>But prices for Bitcoin and other cryptos are likely to stay volatile. Only a small fraction of the Bitcoin supply actually trades on exchanges or other platforms—most of it is kept off the market by long-term “hodlers.” That makes the price volatile and act like a thinly traded stock.</p>\n<p>“How bubbly is this market? I think it’s very bubbly,” says Carmen Reinhart, chief economist of the World Bank. “It’s low liquidity and it may not take any melodrama in a thin market to reverse most or all of the price gains we’ve seen.”</p>\n<p>Nonetheless, Bitcoin’s use cases are also compelling, she notes, particularly in countries like Venezuela and Lebanon, where hyperinflation and capital controls incentivize the use of unregulated digital currencies.</p>\n<p>“If you want to get money out of Lebanon or any country where you’re concerned about its future prospects—whether it’s inflation, confiscation, or anything else—crypto is a way of transferring [money], a vehicle for capital flight,” she says.</p>\n<p>As for the price, investors should buckle up. “We have to expect huge price volatility,” Reinhart says. “But does this mean we’ll see a crash from which it doesn’t recover? I doubt that too.”</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Bitcoin Is Going Mainstream. 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What Investors Need to Know.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-05 23:15 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/bitcoin-is-going-mainstream-what-investors-need-to-know-51617393392?siteid=yhoof2><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Bitcoin is either a massive bubble or the digital currency of the future.\nThe reality is likely somewhere in the middle. Either way, the cryptocurrency is working itself into the mainstream financial ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/bitcoin-is-going-mainstream-what-investors-need-to-know-51617393392?siteid=yhoof2\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PYPL":"PayPal","SQ":"Block","TSLA":"特斯拉","COIN":"Coinbase Global, Inc.","GBTC":"Grayscale Bitcoin Trust"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/bitcoin-is-going-mainstream-what-investors-need-to-know-51617393392?siteid=yhoof2","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1167453696","content_text":"Bitcoin is either a massive bubble or the digital currency of the future.\nThe reality is likely somewhere in the middle. Either way, the cryptocurrency is working itself into the mainstream financial world, achieving the scale and critical mass that may make it increasingly difficult to dislodge or restrain.\nWith its market value hovering around $1 trillion, Bitcoin (BTC) has become too large and influential to remain on the financial fringes. Wall Street is pumping out reports on cryptos. Piper Sandler issued a 30-page report on Thursday, noting that the “crypto-economy could be entering a pivotal point in its development/lifecycle.”\nCoinbase Global, the largest U.S. crypto exchange and custodian, says it plans to go public on April 14 in what may be the largest tech IPO since Facebook(ticker: FB) in 2012. Private valuations peg Coinbase at $68 billion. The firm custodies an estimated $90 billion in crypto assets on its platform. It had revenue of $1.3 billion in 2020 and profits of $322 million, according to a regulatory filing.\nFintechs see Bitcoin and other cryptos as a vast new market for payments and transaction services.Visasays it plans to settle transactions in a “stablecoin,” USD Coin (USDC). About $10 billion of USDC is now circulating, according to Visa, which sees it used for everything from buying a cup of coffee to cross-border payments, trade settlements, or foreign money transfers. Stablecoins are like digital dollars, pegged in value to the buck.\nOther votes of confidence in Bitcoin are coming fromTesla(TSLA),PayPal Holdings(PYPL) andSquare(SQ), all of which are now offering ways to transact in Bitcoin or other cryptos.\nAnd there are expanding ways to invest, including derivatives, stocks and holding companies like the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC). Fund sponsors are also angling to launch a U.S.-listed exchange-traded fund (catching up to Canada, where Bitcoin ETFs recently started trading).\nU.S. fund sponsors filing for approvals recently include Fidelity Investments, VanEck,WisdomTree Investments(WETF), SkyBridge Capital, Valkyrie Digital Assets, and NYDIG Asset Management, according to Piper Sandler.\nThe Securities and Exchange Commission has so far declined to approve a Bitcoin ETF, citing concerns about volatility, price transparency, and market manipulation. However, the Biden Administration’s nominee for SEC chairman, Gary Gensler, may take a friendlier approach. Gensler previously ran the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and has studied cryptos extensively. “This is good news for the digital assets industry,” wrote Jeff Bandman, a former CFTC official in aposton CoinDesk.\nAs Bitcoin becomes entrenched, it may only get harder for regulators to restrain. Its growing acceptance as an alternative investment or transaction currency is far outpacing regulatory controls. That, in turn, could improve the investment case for owning it, according to Piper Sandler.\n“Many investors view this scale as a safeguard against potentially overbearing regulations from governments in the developed world,” Piper says. Investing in Bitcoin, the firm adds, is a “quasi call option for both individuals and institutions on this new and potentially disruptive technology.”\nSome economists also view Bitcoin’s rising clout as a means of keeping regulators at bay.\n“My read on the last six to 12 months is that as influential investors come in, it puts pressure on regulators not to do anything,” says Harvard economist Kenneth Rogoff, who doesn’t expect regulators to sit on their hands forever.\nBitcoin and other crytpos are regulated by various federal agencies and states, but they aren’t entirely clear or consistent. The IRS classifies cryptos as property, for instance, subjecting it to capital-gains tax. The CFTC said in 2015 that virtual currencies should be “properly defined as commodities.” Banks, for their part, are now allowed to custody cryptos, conduct banking in stablecoins, and participate in blockchain networks under guidelines from the U.S. Comptroller of the Currency.\nBut prices for Bitcoin and other cryptos are likely to stay volatile. Only a small fraction of the Bitcoin supply actually trades on exchanges or other platforms—most of it is kept off the market by long-term “hodlers.” That makes the price volatile and act like a thinly traded stock.\n“How bubbly is this market? I think it’s very bubbly,” says Carmen Reinhart, chief economist of the World Bank. “It’s low liquidity and it may not take any melodrama in a thin market to reverse most or all of the price gains we’ve seen.”\nNonetheless, Bitcoin’s use cases are also compelling, she notes, particularly in countries like Venezuela and Lebanon, where hyperinflation and capital controls incentivize the use of unregulated digital currencies.\n“If you want to get money out of Lebanon or any country where you’re concerned about its future prospects—whether it’s inflation, confiscation, or anything else—crypto is a way of transferring [money], a vehicle for capital flight,” she says.\nAs for the price, investors should buckle up. “We have to expect huge price volatility,” Reinhart says. “But does this mean we’ll see a crash from which it doesn’t recover? 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