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CFDs - The Dirty Little Secret Behind The Collapse Of Archegos

zerohedge2021-03-29

Stop us if you've heard this one before -Wall Street prime brokers allowed hedge funds to dance while the music was playing with ever greater leverage in off-exchange and unregulated derivatives... ...

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DenDenBear
·2021-03-30
Comment and like thanks
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Kiteflying
·2021-03-30
Stay away from trading and remember to take profits.
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Lifestyle
·2021-03-30
Guess more will surface.. lesson learned here is always invest in reputable and good companies. Not one that is driven up by so called hedge funds and manipulate the market. No easy money out there just sharks. Trade wisely and not follow the herd 😉
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Bulbul
·2021-03-30
Maybe staying away from the stock market is a wise decision after all. Hard to have confidence considering how rigged the whole game is.
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kungpao
·2021-03-30
Scary
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Soonyee
·2021-03-30
What can we do
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- AS78:
  Monitor first. Please like me back, thanks
  2021-03-30
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meowmeowme
·2021-03-30
I dont believe this has not been said before,Banks always involved in financial crisis...
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- StockJunior:
  let's see if this will turn into financial crisis
  2021-03-30
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Acella
·2021-03-30
Gambling for the "professionals"..
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- 1PerCentClub:
  Agree
  2021-03-30
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- Acella:
  😀
  2021-03-30
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- 火星投资狼:
  [开心]
  2021-03-31
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我i168
·2021-03-30
Banks and brokers always come out creative products to satisfy their greedy profit targets...there are many hidden things you may not be aware until a case like this happens. So avoid all the leveraged derivative products. The old school of investing is: identify opportunity, buy for long, and hold for enough time to reap rewards.
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- LimLS:
  unfortunately people are conditioned to fast and big gains. 100-1000+% gains in just months. Those of us that still invest, hold for decades are called outdated. Unfortunate truth.
  2021-03-30
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- 我i168:
  CFDs are margin trading, DLCs are levergaed trading, shorting, options, etc all of them are financial trafing products, they are not investing proper.
  2021-03-30
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Tan123
·2021-03-30
still greedy now?
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- Tan123:
  yeah
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同是天涯沦落人
·2021-03-30
CFDs need to be controlled well, so as to avoid systematic risks
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PeopleAction
·2021-03-30
Oh dear
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Avestor
·2021-03-30
This is gambling. Unfortunately, the greed of the banks had brought them to such exposure.
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- tungngie:
  this is so true, and so unfortunate to happen to new investors... stay vigilant.
  2021-03-30
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hamstring
·2021-03-30
How deep does this go?
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BoonP
·2021-03-30
Hmmm
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MarketPulse
·2021-03-30
This is really gambling. Big banks such as credit suisse, Goldman Sachs are really greedy. Basically their are breaking the rules by playing between the gray areas, this is non compliance. Is 2008 crisis already history repeated itself? For years, Banks and hedge funds are destroying the financial market!
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Louis5555
·2021-03-30
wow
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Wallstrtbets
·2021-03-30
Good.
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Daveb
·2021-03-30
This is not huge compared with hedgies exposure to naked shorts and synthetic shares in GME and AMC. That story when it breaks, WILL change Wall St and $20billion will looklike pocket change. ✊🏿✊🏿🚀🚀
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navoyhot
·2021-03-30
first black swan real one
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