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🤔🤔🤔🤔😵","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/846887259","repostId":"2180760173","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2180760173","pubTimestamp":1636026621,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2180760173?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-04 19:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is It Safer to Pull Your Money Out of the Stock Market Now?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2180760173","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Walk through three scenarios to identify your safest course of action.","content":"<p>Whispers and warnings about an overvalued stock market have been circulating since last year. All the while, stock prices have kept on rising, with only minor, short-lived pullbacks. Right up until September, anyway.</p>\n<p>In September, the <b>S&P 500</b> and the <b>Dow Jones Industrial Average</b> both dipped more than 4%. You can see the dip in the table below.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5c03a90c71085349ce9dea996cf212c1\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"409\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>^SPX data by YCharts.</span></p>\n<p>For both indexes, the September downturn was the largest monthly drop since March, 2020. October then wiped out those losses -- but is there more rockiness to come? And if so, is it safer to pull your money out of the stock market now, while you're ahead?</p>\n<h2>More volatility is certain</h2>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F648974%2F9-woman-laptop-notes.jpeg&w=700&op=resize\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p>\n<p>I can confirm that more stock market volatility is on the horizon -- though I can't say if it will happen next week or next year. Given that uncertainty, it's tough to know whether you should pull your money out now. What you can do is walk through the potential outcomes to understand how selling now could affect your wealth.</p>\n<p>To do that, let's assume you liquidate your portfolio today for $100,000. Going forward, stock prices will either drop, rise, or stay the same. Here's a look at where you might end up in each scenario.</p>\n<h2>If stock prices drop</h2>\n<p>If the market drops 10% or 20%, you'll still have $100,000 in cash. That would be a positive.</p>\n<p>You don't want to keep that wealth in cash indefinitely because inflation will sap your purchasing power over time. So you'll have to decide when to reinvest. Ideally, you'd rebuild your portfolio with that $100,000 just as the market starts to heat up again.</p>\n<p>Getting that timing right will be a challenge. Even the experts often don't know in the moment if the market is heading up or down. It usually takes hindsight to identify how the market is trending, so there's a high probability you'll reinvest too early or too late:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Reinvest too early and your portfolio will lose value after you reinvest -- the same situation you were trying to avoid initially.</li>\n <li>Reinvest too late and share prices will be higher than when you sold. You'll pay more than $100,000 to rebuild the same portfolio.</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>If stock prices rise</h2>\n<p>Say the market rises 3% or 4% through the end of the year. On December 31, you'll have about $100,080 in cash, assuming you earned 0.5% in a cash savings account. If you feel confident enough to reinvest, it might cost you $103,000 or $104,000 to rebuild your portfolio.</p>\n<h2>If stock prices stay about the same</h2>\n<p>You'll still have your $100,000 in cash, plus interest. The stock market slugs along, up one day and down the next. Probably, you'll be in a holding pattern -- waiting for a definitive sign that you should stay out or reinvest:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>If the definitive sign is a market correction, you have your cash, but no idea when to reinvest.</li>\n <li>If the definitive sign is a rising market while you were on the sidelines, you will have missed out on growth.</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Selling has risk</h2>\n<p>As you think through these scenarios, you'll make your own conclusions on the safest course of action.</p>\n<p>When I review these potential outcomes, I always end up at the same place: I see more risk in selling than in doing nothing. Even in the best scenario, where I sell and avoid a crash, I can still lose by mistiming my reinvestment.</p>\n<h2>An argument for doing nothing</h2>\n<p>Doing nothing has risk, too. I can stay invested, for example, and feel the full force of a stock market crash. I'd watch my portfolio balance drop and then wait, nervously, for share prices to recover. That wait could be months or years. In the meantime, I have an emergency fund that should keep me from liquidating when share prices are down.</p>\n<p>Participating in a crash is stressful, for sure. But staying invested has one advantage that outweighs everything else: It's the only strategy that guarantees my portfolio will benefit from a future recovery.</p>\n<p>I like that guarantee because stock market recovery gains can be steep and unexpected. The March 2020 crash demonstrates this well. As you can see in the table below, the market bottomed on March 23, 2020. Three days later, the major indexes were up more than 17%. If you had blinked, you might have missed it.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa31c270093e6fb5c3f8315cc09bd1e0\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"409\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>^SPX data by YCharts.</span></p>\n<p>OK, back to the question at hand. Is it safer to pull your money out of the stock market now? I say no -- because I'm prepared to wait for a down cycle to end. 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All the while, stock prices have kept on rising, with only minor, short-lived pullbacks. Right up until ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/04/safer-to-pull-your-money-out-of-stock-market/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".DJI":"道琼斯",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/04/safer-to-pull-your-money-out-of-stock-market/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2180760173","content_text":"Whispers and warnings about an overvalued stock market have been circulating since last year. All the while, stock prices have kept on rising, with only minor, short-lived pullbacks. Right up until September, anyway.\nIn September, the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average both dipped more than 4%. You can see the dip in the table below.\n^SPX data by YCharts.\nFor both indexes, the September downturn was the largest monthly drop since March, 2020. October then wiped out those losses -- but is there more rockiness to come? And if so, is it safer to pull your money out of the stock market now, while you're ahead?\nMore volatility is certain\nImage source: Getty Images.\nI can confirm that more stock market volatility is on the horizon -- though I can't say if it will happen next week or next year. Given that uncertainty, it's tough to know whether you should pull your money out now. What you can do is walk through the potential outcomes to understand how selling now could affect your wealth.\nTo do that, let's assume you liquidate your portfolio today for $100,000. Going forward, stock prices will either drop, rise, or stay the same. Here's a look at where you might end up in each scenario.\nIf stock prices drop\nIf the market drops 10% or 20%, you'll still have $100,000 in cash. That would be a positive.\nYou don't want to keep that wealth in cash indefinitely because inflation will sap your purchasing power over time. So you'll have to decide when to reinvest. Ideally, you'd rebuild your portfolio with that $100,000 just as the market starts to heat up again.\nGetting that timing right will be a challenge. Even the experts often don't know in the moment if the market is heading up or down. It usually takes hindsight to identify how the market is trending, so there's a high probability you'll reinvest too early or too late:\n\nReinvest too early and your portfolio will lose value after you reinvest -- the same situation you were trying to avoid initially.\nReinvest too late and share prices will be higher than when you sold. You'll pay more than $100,000 to rebuild the same portfolio.\n\nIf stock prices rise\nSay the market rises 3% or 4% through the end of the year. On December 31, you'll have about $100,080 in cash, assuming you earned 0.5% in a cash savings account. If you feel confident enough to reinvest, it might cost you $103,000 or $104,000 to rebuild your portfolio.\nIf stock prices stay about the same\nYou'll still have your $100,000 in cash, plus interest. The stock market slugs along, up one day and down the next. Probably, you'll be in a holding pattern -- waiting for a definitive sign that you should stay out or reinvest:\n\nIf the definitive sign is a market correction, you have your cash, but no idea when to reinvest.\nIf the definitive sign is a rising market while you were on the sidelines, you will have missed out on growth.\n\nSelling has risk\nAs you think through these scenarios, you'll make your own conclusions on the safest course of action.\nWhen I review these potential outcomes, I always end up at the same place: I see more risk in selling than in doing nothing. Even in the best scenario, where I sell and avoid a crash, I can still lose by mistiming my reinvestment.\nAn argument for doing nothing\nDoing nothing has risk, too. I can stay invested, for example, and feel the full force of a stock market crash. I'd watch my portfolio balance drop and then wait, nervously, for share prices to recover. That wait could be months or years. In the meantime, I have an emergency fund that should keep me from liquidating when share prices are down.\nParticipating in a crash is stressful, for sure. But staying invested has one advantage that outweighs everything else: It's the only strategy that guarantees my portfolio will benefit from a future recovery.\nI like that guarantee because stock market recovery gains can be steep and unexpected. The March 2020 crash demonstrates this well. As you can see in the table below, the market bottomed on March 23, 2020. Three days later, the major indexes were up more than 17%. If you had blinked, you might have missed it.\n^SPX data by YCharts.\nOK, back to the question at hand. Is it safer to pull your money out of the stock market now? I say no -- because I'm prepared to wait for a down cycle to end. To the extent you might need cash from your portfolio soon, your answer might be different.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":474,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":846881262,"gmtCreate":1636072827264,"gmtModify":1636072919103,"author":{"id":"3586224735052437","authorId":"3586224735052437","name":"Snakewood","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc93ca606276924f9b006b7e016cae4d","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sigh... guess may need to jump back in... 🤦♂️ ","listText":"Sigh... guess may need to jump back in... 🤦♂️ ","text":"Sigh... guess may need to jump back in... 🤦♂️","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/846881262","repostId":"2180799667","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2180799667","pubTimestamp":1636038797,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2180799667?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-04 23:13","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Tesla's Profits Could Soar Next Year","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2180799667","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Tesla reported $1.6 billion of net income in Q3 alone -- but this may be just the tip of the iceberg for the electric-car maker's profitability.","content":"<p><b>Tesla</b> (NASDAQ:TSLA) shares have soared this year. Part of these gains have been driven by the company's surging sales during a year that has been particularly challenging for other automakers.</p>\n<p>Perhaps an even more important driver for investors' growing bullishness has been the electric-car maker's fast-growing bottom line. In Q3 alone, Tesla raked in $1.6 billion in net income, up from just $331 million in the year-ago quarter.</p>\n<p>But this may just be the start for Tesla's bottom line. After all, the company has achieved this net income during a challenging operating environment. Imagine how the automaker's profits could fare when global supply and labor shortages improve.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F650521%2Fgfoolcdn-1.jpg&w=700&op=resize\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"394\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Tesla Supercharger. Image source: The Motley Fool.</span></p>\n<h2>Earnings momentum</h2>\n<p>It would be difficult to overstate the momentum Tesla is seeing in profitability. The company's automotive gross profit margin has expanded every quarter this year, with the key metric coming in at an impressive 30.5% year over year in Q3 2021. Further, Tesla's third-quarter non-GAAP (adjusted) earnings per share increased 139% year over year to about $2.1 billion. This outsize growth relative to Tesla's 57% revenue increase during this period highlights how the company's scalable business model is benefiting from operating leverage.</p>\n<p>Improvement in profitability, Tesla said in its third-quarter shareholder letter, was primarily due to vehicle unit sales growth and cost reductions. But what's more notable is that this growth was achieved despite a number of headwinds to profitability: lower average selling prices for its vehicles, growth in operating expenses, lower revenue from sales of zero-emission vehicle credits, incremental supply-chain costs, and a $51 million impairment charge related to its <b>Bitcoin</b> investment.</p>\n<h2>Catalysts for 2022</h2>\n<p>There are a number of reasons Tesla's earnings momentum will likely continue in 2022.</p>\n<p>First, the automaker's increasing production rates, new factories, and rising demand should lead to significantly higher sales next year -- likely to the tune of around 50% year-over-year growth. Second, any normalization of the current challenging supply-chain environment could lead to greater production efficiencies and lowered part and logistics costs. Finally, returned sales volume from Model S and X vehicles following their slowed production volume in 2021 as the models were refreshed could help Tesla's gross profit margin. (The Model S and X are pricier than Tesla's higher-volume Model 3 and Model Y vehicles and should command a greater gross profit margin).</p>\n<p>But there are also many other small reasons Tesla's profit margins could swell next year, bolstering profitability. To name a few:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>The company's fast-growing energy business could benefit from operating leverage.</li>\n <li>Tesla's high-margin automotive software could grow to represent a larger portion of sales</li>\n <li>The Model Y could represent a larger portion of unit sales growth than Model 3. 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Part of these gains have been driven by the company's surging sales during a year that has been particularly challenging for other automakers.\nPerhaps...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/04/why-teslas-profits-could-soar-next-year/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/04/why-teslas-profits-could-soar-next-year/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2180799667","content_text":"Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) shares have soared this year. Part of these gains have been driven by the company's surging sales during a year that has been particularly challenging for other automakers.\nPerhaps an even more important driver for investors' growing bullishness has been the electric-car maker's fast-growing bottom line. In Q3 alone, Tesla raked in $1.6 billion in net income, up from just $331 million in the year-ago quarter.\nBut this may just be the start for Tesla's bottom line. After all, the company has achieved this net income during a challenging operating environment. Imagine how the automaker's profits could fare when global supply and labor shortages improve.\nTesla Supercharger. Image source: The Motley Fool.\nEarnings momentum\nIt would be difficult to overstate the momentum Tesla is seeing in profitability. The company's automotive gross profit margin has expanded every quarter this year, with the key metric coming in at an impressive 30.5% year over year in Q3 2021. Further, Tesla's third-quarter non-GAAP (adjusted) earnings per share increased 139% year over year to about $2.1 billion. This outsize growth relative to Tesla's 57% revenue increase during this period highlights how the company's scalable business model is benefiting from operating leverage.\nImprovement in profitability, Tesla said in its third-quarter shareholder letter, was primarily due to vehicle unit sales growth and cost reductions. But what's more notable is that this growth was achieved despite a number of headwinds to profitability: lower average selling prices for its vehicles, growth in operating expenses, lower revenue from sales of zero-emission vehicle credits, incremental supply-chain costs, and a $51 million impairment charge related to its Bitcoin investment.\nCatalysts for 2022\nThere are a number of reasons Tesla's earnings momentum will likely continue in 2022.\nFirst, the automaker's increasing production rates, new factories, and rising demand should lead to significantly higher sales next year -- likely to the tune of around 50% year-over-year growth. Second, any normalization of the current challenging supply-chain environment could lead to greater production efficiencies and lowered part and logistics costs. Finally, returned sales volume from Model S and X vehicles following their slowed production volume in 2021 as the models were refreshed could help Tesla's gross profit margin. (The Model S and X are pricier than Tesla's higher-volume Model 3 and Model Y vehicles and should command a greater gross profit margin).\nBut there are also many other small reasons Tesla's profit margins could swell next year, bolstering profitability. To name a few:\n\nThe company's fast-growing energy business could benefit from operating leverage.\nTesla's high-margin automotive software could grow to represent a larger portion of sales\nThe Model Y could represent a larger portion of unit sales growth than Model 3. (Model Y is a pricier and higher-margin vehicle than Model 3.)\n\nOf course, another simple reason to expect rapid growth in profits is that Tesla management is optimistic about the company's bottom-line potential. \"We expect our operating margin will continue to grow over time, continuing to reach industry-leading levels with capacity expansion and localization plans underway,\" the company said in Tesla's third-quarter shareholder letter.\nOn average, analysts expect Tesla's earnings per share to grow at an average annualized rate of more than 70% over the next five years.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":836,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":840894815,"gmtCreate":1635618122157,"gmtModify":1635618122275,"author":{"id":"3586224735052437","authorId":"3586224735052437","name":"Snakewood","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc93ca606276924f9b006b7e016cae4d","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false},"themes":[],"htmlText":"GREAT story!! 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I'm just happy the current situation... 😁😁 👏👏👏🍻","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/840894815","repostId":"2179471352","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1054,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":864955931,"gmtCreate":1633051183171,"gmtModify":1633051183314,"author":{"id":"3586224735052437","authorId":"3586224735052437","name":"Snakewood","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc93ca606276924f9b006b7e016cae4d","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Missed lordsdown! 😭","listText":"Missed lordsdown! 😭","text":"Missed lordsdown! 😭","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/864955931","repostId":"1105231238","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1105231238","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1633010813,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105231238?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-30 22:06","market":"us","language":"en","title":"EV stocks rose in morning trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105231238","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"EV stocks rose in morning trading.Tesla,Nio,Xpeng Motors, Li Auto,Lordstown,TuSimple,Nikola and Niu ","content":"<p>EV stocks rose in morning trading.Tesla,Nio,Xpeng Motors, Li Auto,Lordstown,TuSimple,Nikola and Niu Technologies climbed between 0.5% and 14%.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e9cf4e02f0024c5bce2a4d36576e6543\" tg-width=\"399\" tg-height=\"477\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Lordstown Motors Corp., the electric-truck startup that acquired an Ohio car factory from General Motors Co., is near an agreement to sell the highly politicized plant to Taiwan’s Foxconn Technology Group after owning it less than two years, people familiar with the matter said.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Dreamers will say Yea! And cynics will laugh their heads off! I'm just happy the current situation... 😁😁 👏👏👏🍻","listText":"GREAT story!! Dreamers will say Yea! And cynics will laugh their heads off! I'm just happy the current situation... 😁😁 👏👏👏🍻","text":"GREAT story!! Dreamers will say Yea! And cynics will laugh their heads off! I'm just happy the current situation... 😁😁 👏👏👏🍻","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/840894815","repostId":"2179471352","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2179471352","pubTimestamp":1635566092,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2179471352?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-30 11:54","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Opinion:Here's the math for Tesla's stock price if it becomes the Apple of car makers","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2179471352","media":"Market watch","summary":"For those that don’t know, in the early 2000s it was unimaginable that these legacy mobile phone manufacturers could disappear. In 2006, Research in Motion , the company making BlackBerrys, lost a patent suit against NTP and a U.S. District Court judge slapped an injunction on sales. The Defense Department stepped in, claiming that a Blackberry injunction was a threat to national security. Meanwhile, industry leader Nokia held a 40% market share and by the end of 2007 sported a $230 billion mark","content":"<p>Fans and shareholders of Tesla are making stronger and louder arguments about the future of their favorite company. In them, they draw analogies to one of the most successful brands and businesses in the history of capitalism. They suggest that automaking may go the way of handset manufacturing and that – for TeslaTSLA,+3.43%– there is a strong resemblance to the AppleAAPL,-1.82%vs. Nokia/Blackberry/Ericsson/Motorola dynamic.</p>\n<p>For those that don’t know, in the early 2000s it was unimaginable that these legacy mobile phone manufacturers could disappear. In 2006, Research in Motion (RIM), the company making BlackBerrys, lost a patent suit against NTP and a U.S. District Court judge slapped an injunction on sales. The Defense Department stepped in, claiming that a Blackberry injunction was a threat to national security. Meanwhile, industry leader Nokia held a 40% market share and by the end of 2007 sported a $230 billion market cap.</p>\n<p>But something else happened in 2007.</p>\n<p>Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone.</p>\n<p>And that changed the game for Nokia, Blackberry and the entire industry, forever.</p>\n<p>Coincidentally, Jobs introduced that iPhone seven months after Tesla introduced the Roadster at the San Francisco International Auto Show. Fast forward to 2021, and the bulls are suggesting that Apple’s overwhelming success in handset manufacturing can be mirrored in automobile manufacturing by Elon Musk’s Tesla.</p>\n<p>For this to happen, let’s first assume that within 15 years buyers will demand a broadly similar “form factor” for any vehicle. Today, there are 250 brands of cars sold to fit all appetites and budgets, and perhaps over 1,000 trims. Meanwhile, thanks to the iPhone, handset hardware has gone from a myriad of styles, sizes and forms to basically one.</p>\n<p>Similarly, let’s imagine that the production and value of automobiles and light trucks will become less about the style or performance that is demanded and instead mostly about the software inside the vehicle.</p>\n<p>Finally (and this is a huge debate, but) let’s presuppose that Tesla will have better software – most importantly better autonomous driving capability – than any other vendor or manufacturer, whether in Silicon Valley, Detroit, Wolfsburg or elsewhere.</p>\n<p>In other words, let’s assume that Tesla is going to become the Apple of automakers.</p>\n<p>To do this, we need to ignore that Apple is not just a handset manufacturer. In the first three quarters this year, it reported over $150 billion of iPhone sales, which represented 55% of total sales. It also reported sales from the “Services” segment, which included sales from advertising, digital content, AppleCare and other lines. If we assume all that revenue was driven by the iPhone (even though not all was), then we get the iPhone representing about 65%-70% of Apple’s sales.</p>\n<p>This implies Apple has a substantial business (about $110 billion this year) selling Macs, iPads, wearables and accessories too. So in our “Tesla is Apple” analogy, we need to assume that Tesla will make similar extensions into new products.</p>\n<p>We also need to ignore that most of the profit for Apple in handsets comes from mobile advertising and app sales, much of which Apple reports in that services segment noted above. Again, to stay in our framework, we also need to believe that Tesla would generate something similar via its over-the-air updates or its own app store.</p>\n<p>Making all these assumptions, then future margins in “automaking” – for at least one manufacturer – could theoretically start trending up toward the margins generated today by Apple.</p>\n<p>So in terms of handset market share, people around the world are going to buy approximately 1.4 billion handsets this year, and the average selling price will be about $320. Apple has about 16% of the global market, and will sell about 225 million iPhones.</p>\n<p>Just guessing here, but if these iPhones are sold at an average price of $890, then the average price of all the other phones sold in the world needs to be about $125 for the math to make sense. And because Apple can sell its iPhone at such a huge premium and produce remarkable revenues from advertising and app store sales, it generates a whopping 24% earnings margin.</p>\n<p>In comparison, VolkswagenVOW3,-0.49%VWAPY,-2.43%,which started operations in 1938, has worked its way up to a global market share of 12.0% and generates net income margins of 5.0%.</p>\n<p>Toyota7203,+0.33%TM,+0.05%,which also started operations in 1938, also has a global market share of 12.0% and generates even better net income margins of approximately 7.0%.</p>\n<p>Nokia, for what it is worth, generated 14% net margins before the iPhone changed the game. In other words, even before Apple showed up, handset manufacturing was over twice as profitable for market leaders as making cars.</p>\n<p>Anyway, folks around the world will buy about 75 million new cars this year, and at an average price of $30,000 (ballpark) this works out to over $2.2 trillion in sales. This is about five times larger than the handset market, which will come in at about $450 million. Toyota and Volkswagen are the largest – and best in class – scale automobile manufacturers in the world. Other groups, including FordF,+1.30%,Stellantis (FCA/Peugeot)STLA,-0.50%,DaimlerDAI,+2.25%,General MotorsGM,+0.35%,Honda7267,-0.53%HMC,-0.40%,BMWBMW,-0.11%and many others also have significant share.</p>\n<p>This year, Tesla will sell about a million cars, representing a global market share of 1.3%.</p>\n<p>And dare I say that each of Tesla’s competitors will be loath to surrender more market share, thus the huge amount of R&D and capital spending they will devote to the upcoming transition to electric vehicles (EVs). On the CAPEX metric alone, we can see that these competitors will actually spend more next year than Tesla.</p>\n<p>A lot more.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c0b0383d691f139a5d04a2a94c2bd399\" tg-width=\"699\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">ALBERT BRIDGE CAPITAL</p>\n<p>But still, let’s assume all the legacy automakers fail to maintain share. Let’s also envision that most of the profits in the industry will eventually go to Tesla (as they have in handsets to Apple).</p>\n<p>As a baseline, analysts anticipate that Tesla will generate over $50 billion in sales this year. Over 85% of these sales are related to its automotive business.</p>\n<p>In 2035, if EVs represents 95% of all new cars sold, and Tesla has the same 16% market share as Apple does today (significantly eclipsing that of VW or Toyota), it will be producing 22 million cars and light trucks, and generating sales of over $1 trillion.</p>\n<p>This year, analysts anticipate that Tesla will generate nearly $7 billion in adjusted net income (which will include approximately $1.2 billion in profits driven by regulatory credits).</p>\n<p>If Tesla were able to generate the same 24% net earnings margin as Apple does today (remember VW is at 5% and Toyota at 7%), then it would produce about $250 billion of earnings in 2035.</p>\n<p>As Tesla has grown from zero to one million cars, it has built production facilities in Freemont, Shanghai and soon Austin; battery-producing gigafactories in Nevada, Buffalo, Germany and Austin again; and other manufacturing and tooling facilities in Michigan, Ontario, Shanghai, two more in California and three more in Germany.</p>\n<p>To finance this expansion, Tesla went from 35 million diluted shares in 2009 to 641 million in 2015 to over 1.1 billion today. Of course some of these went to key executives in the firm as compensation, but for the most part, this share issuance helped to finance the firm’s stunning growth to date.</p>\n<p>And if Tesla is going to build over 20 million units a year (up from about 1 million this year), this will require a lot more capital. But given its strong share price and internal cash flow generation, let’s assume that the rate of new share issuance at Tesla will slow dramatically, to just 1.5% new shares per year. At this rate, they would have “only” 1.4 billion shares in 2035.</p>\n<p>And in that year, on production of 22 million vehicles at an average selling price of $46,000 (again, our guess) and doing 24% net earnings margins, this $250 billion of earnings would work out to about $178 per share.</p>\n<p>Given Tesla’s domination in this scenario where it maxes out its market share, the only negative is that it would no longer be a secular story, but one more exposed to the cyclical nature of automaking. So its huge amount of revenue and income would naturally be growing much more slowly by then. But, again for the sake of this exercise, let’s assume that Tesla will still find a way to continue to generate a consistent 10% EPS growth on that $250 billion number.</p>\n<p>And despite this slowing, let’s also assume that investors will want to pay a P/E ratio of over 20 for a now huge and cyclical business.</p>\n<p>On a P/E of 22.5, that would work out to a market cap of $5.6 trillion, and a share price of $4,000.</p>\n<p>These are big numbers. And despite what we hear from the more optimistic of the Tesla bulls, let’s also assume that today’s shareholders only hope to make 10% per year between now and 2035.</p>\n<p>If we discount that $4,000 by 10% back to today, the shares are worth $1,050.</p>\n<p>That is pretty close to where we are right now.</p>\n<p>So all that above is what needs to happen for $1,050 to be a fair share price today.</p>\n<p>Doubters, admittedly like us, will suggest that the execution risk is tremendous, and these market shares (and particularly the margins) may be impossible.</p>\n<p>Yet, despite the fact that we actually can’t ignore the differences between the mobile phone and automobile industries noted above, the believers – who may indeed be right – will literally need to see Apple-esque industry dynamics, market shares and earnings margins for this all to make sense.</p>\n<p>It is also important to consider that for there to be even more upside in the shares from current levels, Tesla will actually have to exceed everything that Apple has accomplished.</p>\n<p>Whether a bull or a bear, there is no doubting that what Musk has achieved thus far has been nothing short of incredible. Five years ago, few would have thought it even possible that Hertz would order 100,000 Teslas in a single order for its car rental fleet, or that Tesla would produce and sell a million cars in a single year.</p>\n<p>He will continue to do incredible things. He has changed the world and the mindset of his competitors. None of that is in question. The future that his share price is discounting is the question we are asking today.</p>","source":"lsy1616996754749","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Opinion:Here's the math for Tesla's stock price if it becomes the Apple of car makers</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nOpinion:Here's the math for Tesla's stock price if it becomes the Apple of car makers\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-10-30 11:54 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.marketwatch.com/story/if-tesla-is-to-become-the-apple-of-car-makers-this-is-what-it-means-for-the-stock-price-and-the-business-11635513589?mod=home-page><strong>Market watch</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Fans and shareholders of Tesla are making stronger and louder arguments about the future of their favorite company. 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They suggest that automaking may go the way of handset manufacturing and that – for TeslaTSLA,+3.43%– there is a strong resemblance to the AppleAAPL,-1.82%vs. Nokia/Blackberry/Ericsson/Motorola dynamic.\nFor those that don’t know, in the early 2000s it was unimaginable that these legacy mobile phone manufacturers could disappear. In 2006, Research in Motion (RIM), the company making BlackBerrys, lost a patent suit against NTP and a U.S. District Court judge slapped an injunction on sales. The Defense Department stepped in, claiming that a Blackberry injunction was a threat to national security. Meanwhile, industry leader Nokia held a 40% market share and by the end of 2007 sported a $230 billion market cap.\nBut something else happened in 2007.\nSteve Jobs introduced the iPhone.\nAnd that changed the game for Nokia, Blackberry and the entire industry, forever.\nCoincidentally, Jobs introduced that iPhone seven months after Tesla introduced the Roadster at the San Francisco International Auto Show. Fast forward to 2021, and the bulls are suggesting that Apple’s overwhelming success in handset manufacturing can be mirrored in automobile manufacturing by Elon Musk’s Tesla.\nFor this to happen, let’s first assume that within 15 years buyers will demand a broadly similar “form factor” for any vehicle. Today, there are 250 brands of cars sold to fit all appetites and budgets, and perhaps over 1,000 trims. Meanwhile, thanks to the iPhone, handset hardware has gone from a myriad of styles, sizes and forms to basically one.\nSimilarly, let’s imagine that the production and value of automobiles and light trucks will become less about the style or performance that is demanded and instead mostly about the software inside the vehicle.\nFinally (and this is a huge debate, but) let’s presuppose that Tesla will have better software – most importantly better autonomous driving capability – than any other vendor or manufacturer, whether in Silicon Valley, Detroit, Wolfsburg or elsewhere.\nIn other words, let’s assume that Tesla is going to become the Apple of automakers.\nTo do this, we need to ignore that Apple is not just a handset manufacturer. In the first three quarters this year, it reported over $150 billion of iPhone sales, which represented 55% of total sales. It also reported sales from the “Services” segment, which included sales from advertising, digital content, AppleCare and other lines. If we assume all that revenue was driven by the iPhone (even though not all was), then we get the iPhone representing about 65%-70% of Apple’s sales.\nThis implies Apple has a substantial business (about $110 billion this year) selling Macs, iPads, wearables and accessories too. So in our “Tesla is Apple” analogy, we need to assume that Tesla will make similar extensions into new products.\nWe also need to ignore that most of the profit for Apple in handsets comes from mobile advertising and app sales, much of which Apple reports in that services segment noted above. Again, to stay in our framework, we also need to believe that Tesla would generate something similar via its over-the-air updates or its own app store.\nMaking all these assumptions, then future margins in “automaking” – for at least one manufacturer – could theoretically start trending up toward the margins generated today by Apple.\nSo in terms of handset market share, people around the world are going to buy approximately 1.4 billion handsets this year, and the average selling price will be about $320. Apple has about 16% of the global market, and will sell about 225 million iPhones.\nJust guessing here, but if these iPhones are sold at an average price of $890, then the average price of all the other phones sold in the world needs to be about $125 for the math to make sense. And because Apple can sell its iPhone at such a huge premium and produce remarkable revenues from advertising and app store sales, it generates a whopping 24% earnings margin.\nIn comparison, VolkswagenVOW3,-0.49%VWAPY,-2.43%,which started operations in 1938, has worked its way up to a global market share of 12.0% and generates net income margins of 5.0%.\nToyota7203,+0.33%TM,+0.05%,which also started operations in 1938, also has a global market share of 12.0% and generates even better net income margins of approximately 7.0%.\nNokia, for what it is worth, generated 14% net margins before the iPhone changed the game. In other words, even before Apple showed up, handset manufacturing was over twice as profitable for market leaders as making cars.\nAnyway, folks around the world will buy about 75 million new cars this year, and at an average price of $30,000 (ballpark) this works out to over $2.2 trillion in sales. This is about five times larger than the handset market, which will come in at about $450 million. Toyota and Volkswagen are the largest – and best in class – scale automobile manufacturers in the world. Other groups, including FordF,+1.30%,Stellantis (FCA/Peugeot)STLA,-0.50%,DaimlerDAI,+2.25%,General MotorsGM,+0.35%,Honda7267,-0.53%HMC,-0.40%,BMWBMW,-0.11%and many others also have significant share.\nThis year, Tesla will sell about a million cars, representing a global market share of 1.3%.\nAnd dare I say that each of Tesla’s competitors will be loath to surrender more market share, thus the huge amount of R&D and capital spending they will devote to the upcoming transition to electric vehicles (EVs). On the CAPEX metric alone, we can see that these competitors will actually spend more next year than Tesla.\nA lot more.\nALBERT BRIDGE CAPITAL\nBut still, let’s assume all the legacy automakers fail to maintain share. Let’s also envision that most of the profits in the industry will eventually go to Tesla (as they have in handsets to Apple).\nAs a baseline, analysts anticipate that Tesla will generate over $50 billion in sales this year. Over 85% of these sales are related to its automotive business.\nIn 2035, if EVs represents 95% of all new cars sold, and Tesla has the same 16% market share as Apple does today (significantly eclipsing that of VW or Toyota), it will be producing 22 million cars and light trucks, and generating sales of over $1 trillion.\nThis year, analysts anticipate that Tesla will generate nearly $7 billion in adjusted net income (which will include approximately $1.2 billion in profits driven by regulatory credits).\nIf Tesla were able to generate the same 24% net earnings margin as Apple does today (remember VW is at 5% and Toyota at 7%), then it would produce about $250 billion of earnings in 2035.\nAs Tesla has grown from zero to one million cars, it has built production facilities in Freemont, Shanghai and soon Austin; battery-producing gigafactories in Nevada, Buffalo, Germany and Austin again; and other manufacturing and tooling facilities in Michigan, Ontario, Shanghai, two more in California and three more in Germany.\nTo finance this expansion, Tesla went from 35 million diluted shares in 2009 to 641 million in 2015 to over 1.1 billion today. Of course some of these went to key executives in the firm as compensation, but for the most part, this share issuance helped to finance the firm’s stunning growth to date.\nAnd if Tesla is going to build over 20 million units a year (up from about 1 million this year), this will require a lot more capital. But given its strong share price and internal cash flow generation, let’s assume that the rate of new share issuance at Tesla will slow dramatically, to just 1.5% new shares per year. At this rate, they would have “only” 1.4 billion shares in 2035.\nAnd in that year, on production of 22 million vehicles at an average selling price of $46,000 (again, our guess) and doing 24% net earnings margins, this $250 billion of earnings would work out to about $178 per share.\nGiven Tesla’s domination in this scenario where it maxes out its market share, the only negative is that it would no longer be a secular story, but one more exposed to the cyclical nature of automaking. So its huge amount of revenue and income would naturally be growing much more slowly by then. But, again for the sake of this exercise, let’s assume that Tesla will still find a way to continue to generate a consistent 10% EPS growth on that $250 billion number.\nAnd despite this slowing, let’s also assume that investors will want to pay a P/E ratio of over 20 for a now huge and cyclical business.\nOn a P/E of 22.5, that would work out to a market cap of $5.6 trillion, and a share price of $4,000.\nThese are big numbers. And despite what we hear from the more optimistic of the Tesla bulls, let’s also assume that today’s shareholders only hope to make 10% per year between now and 2035.\nIf we discount that $4,000 by 10% back to today, the shares are worth $1,050.\nThat is pretty close to where we are right now.\nSo all that above is what needs to happen for $1,050 to be a fair share price today.\nDoubters, admittedly like us, will suggest that the execution risk is tremendous, and these market shares (and particularly the margins) may be impossible.\nYet, despite the fact that we actually can’t ignore the differences between the mobile phone and automobile industries noted above, the believers – who may indeed be right – will literally need to see Apple-esque industry dynamics, market shares and earnings margins for this all to make sense.\nIt is also important to consider that for there to be even more upside in the shares from current levels, Tesla will actually have to exceed everything that Apple has accomplished.\nWhether a bull or a bear, there is no doubting that what Musk has achieved thus far has been nothing short of incredible. Five years ago, few would have thought it even possible that Hertz would order 100,000 Teslas in a single order for its car rental fleet, or that Tesla would produce and sell a million cars in a single year.\nHe will continue to do incredible things. He has changed the world and the mindset of his competitors. None of that is in question. 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