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I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.</p>\n<p>I argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.</p>\n<p>A more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.</p>\n<p><b>Subreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst</b></p>\n<p>The Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community&nbsp;popularised day trading of the firm.</p>\n<p>WSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.</p>\n<p>The GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.</p>\n<p>Given the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.</p>\n<p><b>The Elon Musk/WSB Connection</b></p>\n<p>Musk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit&nbsp;with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"</p>\n<p>Musk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.</p>\n<p>Musk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"</p>\n<p><b>Tracking WSB Community Sentiment</b></p>\n<p>Thanks to a site called&nbsp;Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).</p>\n<p>If we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f24f2a63740b288ba4dad63e8fdaed3f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Another clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.</p>\n<p><b>Do Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?</b></p>\n<p>Swaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.</p>\n<p>Searching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a1e518a39e21d05f04e11f43de66c6a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"593\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>There appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.</p>\n<p><b>What Trends Can We See?</b></p>\n<p>Looking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.</p>\n<p>In my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.</p>\n<p>I argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d5f5e7c4dafad1ac25fb02d09b089e56\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>Does This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?</b></p>\n<p>Given GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.</p>\n<p>Again, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcda7b46bafc07f02eaa854255c64d63\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Looking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/af3145b857ea22dc2550227f9f93826b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"354\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>The Investment View: Results May Vary</b></p>\n<p>I would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.</p>\n<p>I would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.</p>\n<p>Overall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.</p>\n<p>Perhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.</p>\n<p><b>So What Does This Mean For TSLA?</b></p>\n<p>Coming full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.</p>\n<p>However, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.</p>\n<p>With that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.</p>\n<p><b>The Value Of A Mention</b></p>\n<p>It's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.</p>\n<p>On the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.</p>\n<p>If I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.</p>\n<p>If you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.</p>\n<p>In short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.\nI argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.\nA more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.\nSubreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst\nThe Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community popularised day trading of the firm.\nWSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.\nThe GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.\nGiven the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.\nThe Elon Musk/WSB Connection\nMusk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"\nMusk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.\nMusk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"\nTracking WSB Community Sentiment\nThanks to a site called Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).\nIf we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nAnother clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.\nDo Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?\nSwaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.\nSearching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThere appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.\nWhat Trends Can We See?\nLooking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.\nIn my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.\nI argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nDoes This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?\nGiven GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.\nAgain, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nLooking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThe Investment View: Results May Vary\nI would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.\nI would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.\nOverall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.\nPerhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.\nSo What Does This Mean For TSLA?\nComing full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.\nHowever, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.\nWith that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.\nThe Value Of A Mention\nIt's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.\nOn the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.\nIf I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.\nIf you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.\nIn short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":631,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":877133118,"gmtCreate":1637896007918,"gmtModify":1637896008593,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581994691472846","authorIdStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nah","listText":"Nah","text":"Nah","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/877133118","repostId":"1120047068","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1120047068","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1637817955,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1120047068?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-25 13:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Memes Have Peaked On WallStreetBets - Why That's Bad For The Share Price","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1120047068","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nTesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.\n","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Tesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.</li>\n <li>Elon Musk is famously aware of and actively follows the popular subreddit WallStreetBets and may leverage that following to drive the Tesla share price higher.</li>\n <li>WallStreetBets is made up of 11.2m members and growing, mostly retail traders, who are unpredictable in their mob mentality.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f67c9cf0e3bb1692edac18342c9aa416\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>RichVintage/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Meme Stock Mentions As An Indicator</b></p>\n<p>I have a theory that the only reason Musk's Tesla (TSLA) has achieved the eye watering market capitalisation of $1.141T, with a P/E ratio of 368, is because Elon Musk himself is a master of PR and marketing.</p>\n<p>Core to this theory is that supply and demand is what drives a share's price (whereas fundamental and perceived value is what drives the individual investor to buy or sell), and demand can be manipulated through awareness and PR efforts. I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.</p>\n<p>I argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.</p>\n<p>A more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.</p>\n<p><b>Subreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst</b></p>\n<p>The Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community&nbsp;popularised day trading of the firm.</p>\n<p>WSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.</p>\n<p>The GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.</p>\n<p>Given the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.</p>\n<p><b>The Elon Musk/WSB Connection</b></p>\n<p>Musk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit&nbsp;with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"</p>\n<p>Musk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.</p>\n<p>Musk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"</p>\n<p><b>Tracking WSB Community Sentiment</b></p>\n<p>Thanks to a site called&nbsp;Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).</p>\n<p>If we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f24f2a63740b288ba4dad63e8fdaed3f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Another clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.</p>\n<p><b>Do Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?</b></p>\n<p>Swaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.</p>\n<p>Searching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a1e518a39e21d05f04e11f43de66c6a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"593\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>There appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.</p>\n<p><b>What Trends Can We See?</b></p>\n<p>Looking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.</p>\n<p>In my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.</p>\n<p>I argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d5f5e7c4dafad1ac25fb02d09b089e56\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>Does This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?</b></p>\n<p>Given GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.</p>\n<p>Again, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcda7b46bafc07f02eaa854255c64d63\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Looking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/af3145b857ea22dc2550227f9f93826b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"354\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>The Investment View: Results May Vary</b></p>\n<p>I would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.</p>\n<p>I would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.</p>\n<p>Overall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.</p>\n<p>Perhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.</p>\n<p><b>So What Does This Mean For TSLA?</b></p>\n<p>Coming full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.</p>\n<p>However, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.</p>\n<p>With that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.</p>\n<p><b>The Value Of A Mention</b></p>\n<p>It's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.</p>\n<p>On the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.</p>\n<p>If I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.</p>\n<p>If you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.</p>\n<p>In short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.\nI argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.\nA more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.\nSubreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst\nThe Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community popularised day trading of the firm.\nWSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.\nThe GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.\nGiven the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.\nThe Elon Musk/WSB Connection\nMusk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"\nMusk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.\nMusk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"\nTracking WSB Community Sentiment\nThanks to a site called Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).\nIf we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nAnother clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.\nDo Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?\nSwaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.\nSearching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThere appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.\nWhat Trends Can We See?\nLooking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.\nIn my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.\nI argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nDoes This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?\nGiven GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.\nAgain, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nLooking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThe Investment View: Results May Vary\nI would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.\nI would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.\nOverall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.\nPerhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.\nSo What Does This Mean For TSLA?\nComing full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.\nHowever, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.\nWith that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.\nThe Value Of A Mention\nIt's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.\nOn the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.\nIf I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.\nIf you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.\nIn short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":584,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":877139058,"gmtCreate":1637895870447,"gmtModify":1637895870571,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581994691472846","authorIdStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That’s why hold","listText":"That’s why hold","text":"That’s why hold","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/877139058","repostId":"2186916023","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2186916023","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1637848500,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2186916023?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-25 21:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Will Palantir Be a Trillion-Dollar Stock by 2040?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2186916023","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"The data-mining firm has a slim chance of eventually joining the 12-zero club.","content":"<p><b>Palantir Technologies</b> (NYSE:PLTR) has been a volatile and polarizing investment since its direct listing last September. The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed more government and enterprise contracts.</p>\n<p>The bears pointed out that Palantir was too heavily dependent on government clients, its enterprise business faced too many competitors, it was deeply unprofitable, and its stock was too expensive.</p>\n<p>Palantir's stock price has experienced some wild swings over the past year, but it has still more than doubled since its first trade at $10 per share.</p>\n<p>Today, Palantir is valued at $41.3 billion, or 27 times this year's sales. The bears will argue that the high price-to-sales (P/S) ratio will limit its upside, especially as rising interest rates and inflation make many high-growth tech stocks less attractive.</p>\n<p>But let's look beyond the near-term noise and see if Palantir can still generate big multibagger gains, or even become a trillion-dollar stock, over the next two decades.</p>\n<h2>How fast is Palantir growing?</h2>\n<p>Palantir expects to grow its revenue by at least 30% annually between fiscal 2021 and 2025. That forecast implies its revenue will rise from its target of $1.5 billion this year to at least $4.3 billion in 2025.</p>\n<p>The company expects that growth to be driven by its new and expanded contracts with government agencies, as well as the growth of its Foundry platform for large commercial customers. The accelerating growth of its commercial business over the past year, which notably outpaced the growth of its government business last quarter, supports that thesis.</p>\n<h2>Palantir's path toward a trillion-dollar market cap</h2>\n<p>Palantir hasn't provided any longer-term targets beyond 2025. But based on the growth trajectory of other big data companies like <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRM\">Salesforce</a> </b>(NYSE:CRM), its annual revenue increase could potentially decelerate and stabilize at about 20% over the following 10 years.</p>\n<p>If it hits its target for 2025, then continues to grow its revenue at an average rate of 20% over the following 10 years, it could generate nearly $27 billion in revenue in 2035.</p>\n<p>If Palantir's revenue growth then slows down to 15% per year, which would be more comparable to <b>Microsoft</b>'s (NASDAQ:MSFT) current rate, it could generate over $53 billion in revenue in 2040.</p>\n<p>Assuming the company is still valued at over 20 times sales, its market cap could surpass $1 trillion. But most tech giants that grow their revenue 15% to 25% annually aren't valued at more than 20 times sales.</p>\n<p>Microsoft, which is expected to generate 17% sales growth this year, trades at 13 times that estimate. Salesforce, which is expected to generate 24% sales growth this year, trades at just 11 times this year's sales.</p>\n<p>Therefore, Palantir's market cap could potentially hit $1 trillion by 2040, but it seems highly unlikely. Instead, it will likely be closer to $500 billion (which would still be a 12-bagger gain from its current valuation) if its stock is trading at a more reasonable P/S ratio of 10.</p>\n<h2>Look beyond the market caps</h2>\n<p>Instead of focusing on Palantir's path toward joining the 12-zero club, investors should focus on its ability to generate sustainable growth.</p>\n<p>The company has gained a firm foothold with the U.S. government, but it still faces competition from internally developed systems. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), for example, has been developing its own platform to replace Palantir's Falcon. If other agencies follow ICE's lead, the company's dream of becoming the \"default operating system for data across the U.S. government\" could abruptly end.</p>\n<p>Palantir is making solid progress in the commercial market, but its Foundry platform still faces plenty of indirect competitors like <b>C3.ai</b>, <b>Salesforce</b>'s Tableau, and Glue from <b>Amazon</b> Web Services.</p>\n<p>The company likely believes its reputation as a battle-hardened platform for the U.S. military and government agencies will attract more enterprise customers. But there's no guarantee that this appeal will last for decades or fend off newer, hungrier, and more disruptive players in the data-mining market.</p>\n<h2>Is Palantir's stock still worth buying?</h2>\n<p>I still believe Palantir's stock is a promising long-term investment on the secular growth of the data-mining and analytics market. However, there's a lot of growth already baked into the stock, and its high valuations could limit its near-term and long-term potential. Palantir probably won't hit a trillion-dollar valuation within the next two decades, but it could still outperform the market and generate impressive multibagger gains.</p>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will Palantir Be a Trillion-Dollar Stock by 2040?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWill Palantir Be a Trillion-Dollar Stock by 2040?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-25 21:55 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR) has been a volatile and polarizing investment since its direct listing last September. The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2186916023","content_text":"Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR) has been a volatile and polarizing investment since its direct listing last September. The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed more government and enterprise contracts.\nThe bears pointed out that Palantir was too heavily dependent on government clients, its enterprise business faced too many competitors, it was deeply unprofitable, and its stock was too expensive.\nPalantir's stock price has experienced some wild swings over the past year, but it has still more than doubled since its first trade at $10 per share.\nToday, Palantir is valued at $41.3 billion, or 27 times this year's sales. The bears will argue that the high price-to-sales (P/S) ratio will limit its upside, especially as rising interest rates and inflation make many high-growth tech stocks less attractive.\nBut let's look beyond the near-term noise and see if Palantir can still generate big multibagger gains, or even become a trillion-dollar stock, over the next two decades.\nHow fast is Palantir growing?\nPalantir expects to grow its revenue by at least 30% annually between fiscal 2021 and 2025. That forecast implies its revenue will rise from its target of $1.5 billion this year to at least $4.3 billion in 2025.\nThe company expects that growth to be driven by its new and expanded contracts with government agencies, as well as the growth of its Foundry platform for large commercial customers. The accelerating growth of its commercial business over the past year, which notably outpaced the growth of its government business last quarter, supports that thesis.\nPalantir's path toward a trillion-dollar market cap\nPalantir hasn't provided any longer-term targets beyond 2025. But based on the growth trajectory of other big data companies like Salesforce (NYSE:CRM), its annual revenue increase could potentially decelerate and stabilize at about 20% over the following 10 years.\nIf it hits its target for 2025, then continues to grow its revenue at an average rate of 20% over the following 10 years, it could generate nearly $27 billion in revenue in 2035.\nIf Palantir's revenue growth then slows down to 15% per year, which would be more comparable to Microsoft's (NASDAQ:MSFT) current rate, it could generate over $53 billion in revenue in 2040.\nAssuming the company is still valued at over 20 times sales, its market cap could surpass $1 trillion. But most tech giants that grow their revenue 15% to 25% annually aren't valued at more than 20 times sales.\nMicrosoft, which is expected to generate 17% sales growth this year, trades at 13 times that estimate. Salesforce, which is expected to generate 24% sales growth this year, trades at just 11 times this year's sales.\nTherefore, Palantir's market cap could potentially hit $1 trillion by 2040, but it seems highly unlikely. Instead, it will likely be closer to $500 billion (which would still be a 12-bagger gain from its current valuation) if its stock is trading at a more reasonable P/S ratio of 10.\nLook beyond the market caps\nInstead of focusing on Palantir's path toward joining the 12-zero club, investors should focus on its ability to generate sustainable growth.\nThe company has gained a firm foothold with the U.S. government, but it still faces competition from internally developed systems. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), for example, has been developing its own platform to replace Palantir's Falcon. If other agencies follow ICE's lead, the company's dream of becoming the \"default operating system for data across the U.S. government\" could abruptly end.\nPalantir is making solid progress in the commercial market, but its Foundry platform still faces plenty of indirect competitors like C3.ai, Salesforce's Tableau, and Glue from Amazon Web Services.\nThe company likely believes its reputation as a battle-hardened platform for the U.S. military and government agencies will attract more enterprise customers. But there's no guarantee that this appeal will last for decades or fend off newer, hungrier, and more disruptive players in the data-mining market.\nIs Palantir's stock still worth buying?\nI still believe Palantir's stock is a promising long-term investment on the secular growth of the data-mining and analytics market. However, there's a lot of growth already baked into the stock, and its high valuations could limit its near-term and long-term potential. Palantir probably won't hit a trillion-dollar valuation within the next two decades, but it could still outperform the market and generate impressive multibagger gains.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":917,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":845913390,"gmtCreate":1636262546699,"gmtModify":1636262546699,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581994691472846","authorIdStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Take profits first and wait for price to drip further before buying again?","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Take profits first and wait for price to drip further before buying again?","text":"$Tesla 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The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed more government and enterprise contracts.</p>\n<p>The bears pointed out that Palantir was too heavily dependent on government clients, its enterprise business faced too many competitors, it was deeply unprofitable, and its stock was too expensive.</p>\n<p>Palantir's stock price has experienced some wild swings over the past year, but it has still more than doubled since its first trade at $10 per share.</p>\n<p>Today, Palantir is valued at $41.3 billion, or 27 times this year's sales. The bears will argue that the high price-to-sales (P/S) ratio will limit its upside, especially as rising interest rates and inflation make many high-growth tech stocks less attractive.</p>\n<p>But let's look beyond the near-term noise and see if Palantir can still generate big multibagger gains, or even become a trillion-dollar stock, over the next two decades.</p>\n<h2>How fast is Palantir growing?</h2>\n<p>Palantir expects to grow its revenue by at least 30% annually between fiscal 2021 and 2025. That forecast implies its revenue will rise from its target of $1.5 billion this year to at least $4.3 billion in 2025.</p>\n<p>The company expects that growth to be driven by its new and expanded contracts with government agencies, as well as the growth of its Foundry platform for large commercial customers. The accelerating growth of its commercial business over the past year, which notably outpaced the growth of its government business last quarter, supports that thesis.</p>\n<h2>Palantir's path toward a trillion-dollar market cap</h2>\n<p>Palantir hasn't provided any longer-term targets beyond 2025. But based on the growth trajectory of other big data companies like <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRM\">Salesforce</a> </b>(NYSE:CRM), its annual revenue increase could potentially decelerate and stabilize at about 20% over the following 10 years.</p>\n<p>If it hits its target for 2025, then continues to grow its revenue at an average rate of 20% over the following 10 years, it could generate nearly $27 billion in revenue in 2035.</p>\n<p>If Palantir's revenue growth then slows down to 15% per year, which would be more comparable to <b>Microsoft</b>'s (NASDAQ:MSFT) current rate, it could generate over $53 billion in revenue in 2040.</p>\n<p>Assuming the company is still valued at over 20 times sales, its market cap could surpass $1 trillion. But most tech giants that grow their revenue 15% to 25% annually aren't valued at more than 20 times sales.</p>\n<p>Microsoft, which is expected to generate 17% sales growth this year, trades at 13 times that estimate. Salesforce, which is expected to generate 24% sales growth this year, trades at just 11 times this year's sales.</p>\n<p>Therefore, Palantir's market cap could potentially hit $1 trillion by 2040, but it seems highly unlikely. Instead, it will likely be closer to $500 billion (which would still be a 12-bagger gain from its current valuation) if its stock is trading at a more reasonable P/S ratio of 10.</p>\n<h2>Look beyond the market caps</h2>\n<p>Instead of focusing on Palantir's path toward joining the 12-zero club, investors should focus on its ability to generate sustainable growth.</p>\n<p>The company has gained a firm foothold with the U.S. government, but it still faces competition from internally developed systems. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), for example, has been developing its own platform to replace Palantir's Falcon. If other agencies follow ICE's lead, the company's dream of becoming the \"default operating system for data across the U.S. government\" could abruptly end.</p>\n<p>Palantir is making solid progress in the commercial market, but its Foundry platform still faces plenty of indirect competitors like <b>C3.ai</b>, <b>Salesforce</b>'s Tableau, and Glue from <b>Amazon</b> Web Services.</p>\n<p>The company likely believes its reputation as a battle-hardened platform for the U.S. military and government agencies will attract more enterprise customers. But there's no guarantee that this appeal will last for decades or fend off newer, hungrier, and more disruptive players in the data-mining market.</p>\n<h2>Is Palantir's stock still worth buying?</h2>\n<p>I still believe Palantir's stock is a promising long-term investment on the secular growth of the data-mining and analytics market. However, there's a lot of growth already baked into the stock, and its high valuations could limit its near-term and long-term potential. Palantir probably won't hit a trillion-dollar valuation within the next two decades, but it could still outperform the market and generate impressive multibagger gains.</p>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will Palantir Be a Trillion-Dollar Stock by 2040?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWill Palantir Be a Trillion-Dollar Stock by 2040?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-25 21:55 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR) has been a volatile and polarizing investment since its direct listing last September. The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/25/will-palantir-be-a-trillion-dollar-stock-by-2040/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2186916023","content_text":"Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR) has been a volatile and polarizing investment since its direct listing last September. The bulls claimed its data-mining platforms would continue to grow as it signed more government and enterprise contracts.\nThe bears pointed out that Palantir was too heavily dependent on government clients, its enterprise business faced too many competitors, it was deeply unprofitable, and its stock was too expensive.\nPalantir's stock price has experienced some wild swings over the past year, but it has still more than doubled since its first trade at $10 per share.\nToday, Palantir is valued at $41.3 billion, or 27 times this year's sales. The bears will argue that the high price-to-sales (P/S) ratio will limit its upside, especially as rising interest rates and inflation make many high-growth tech stocks less attractive.\nBut let's look beyond the near-term noise and see if Palantir can still generate big multibagger gains, or even become a trillion-dollar stock, over the next two decades.\nHow fast is Palantir growing?\nPalantir expects to grow its revenue by at least 30% annually between fiscal 2021 and 2025. That forecast implies its revenue will rise from its target of $1.5 billion this year to at least $4.3 billion in 2025.\nThe company expects that growth to be driven by its new and expanded contracts with government agencies, as well as the growth of its Foundry platform for large commercial customers. The accelerating growth of its commercial business over the past year, which notably outpaced the growth of its government business last quarter, supports that thesis.\nPalantir's path toward a trillion-dollar market cap\nPalantir hasn't provided any longer-term targets beyond 2025. But based on the growth trajectory of other big data companies like Salesforce (NYSE:CRM), its annual revenue increase could potentially decelerate and stabilize at about 20% over the following 10 years.\nIf it hits its target for 2025, then continues to grow its revenue at an average rate of 20% over the following 10 years, it could generate nearly $27 billion in revenue in 2035.\nIf Palantir's revenue growth then slows down to 15% per year, which would be more comparable to Microsoft's (NASDAQ:MSFT) current rate, it could generate over $53 billion in revenue in 2040.\nAssuming the company is still valued at over 20 times sales, its market cap could surpass $1 trillion. But most tech giants that grow their revenue 15% to 25% annually aren't valued at more than 20 times sales.\nMicrosoft, which is expected to generate 17% sales growth this year, trades at 13 times that estimate. Salesforce, which is expected to generate 24% sales growth this year, trades at just 11 times this year's sales.\nTherefore, Palantir's market cap could potentially hit $1 trillion by 2040, but it seems highly unlikely. Instead, it will likely be closer to $500 billion (which would still be a 12-bagger gain from its current valuation) if its stock is trading at a more reasonable P/S ratio of 10.\nLook beyond the market caps\nInstead of focusing on Palantir's path toward joining the 12-zero club, investors should focus on its ability to generate sustainable growth.\nThe company has gained a firm foothold with the U.S. government, but it still faces competition from internally developed systems. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), for example, has been developing its own platform to replace Palantir's Falcon. If other agencies follow ICE's lead, the company's dream of becoming the \"default operating system for data across the U.S. government\" could abruptly end.\nPalantir is making solid progress in the commercial market, but its Foundry platform still faces plenty of indirect competitors like C3.ai, Salesforce's Tableau, and Glue from Amazon Web Services.\nThe company likely believes its reputation as a battle-hardened platform for the U.S. military and government agencies will attract more enterprise customers. But there's no guarantee that this appeal will last for decades or fend off newer, hungrier, and more disruptive players in the data-mining market.\nIs Palantir's stock still worth buying?\nI still believe Palantir's stock is a promising long-term investment on the secular growth of the data-mining and analytics market. However, there's a lot of growth already baked into the stock, and its high valuations could limit its near-term and long-term potential. Palantir probably won't hit a trillion-dollar valuation within the next two decades, but it could still outperform the market and generate impressive multibagger gains.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":917,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":877133882,"gmtCreate":1637896025378,"gmtModify":1637898756394,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581994691472846","idStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Don’t be fooled","listText":"Don’t be fooled","text":"Don’t be fooled","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/877133882","repostId":"1120047068","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1120047068","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1637817955,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1120047068?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-25 13:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Memes Have Peaked On WallStreetBets - Why That's Bad For The Share Price","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1120047068","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nTesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.\n","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Tesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.</li>\n <li>Elon Musk is famously aware of and actively follows the popular subreddit WallStreetBets and may leverage that following to drive the Tesla share price higher.</li>\n <li>WallStreetBets is made up of 11.2m members and growing, mostly retail traders, who are unpredictable in their mob mentality.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f67c9cf0e3bb1692edac18342c9aa416\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>RichVintage/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Meme Stock Mentions As An Indicator</b></p>\n<p>I have a theory that the only reason Musk's Tesla (TSLA) has achieved the eye watering market capitalisation of $1.141T, with a P/E ratio of 368, is because Elon Musk himself is a master of PR and marketing.</p>\n<p>Core to this theory is that supply and demand is what drives a share's price (whereas fundamental and perceived value is what drives the individual investor to buy or sell), and demand can be manipulated through awareness and PR efforts. I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.</p>\n<p>I argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.</p>\n<p>A more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.</p>\n<p><b>Subreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst</b></p>\n<p>The Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community&nbsp;popularised day trading of the firm.</p>\n<p>WSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.</p>\n<p>The GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.</p>\n<p>Given the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.</p>\n<p><b>The Elon Musk/WSB Connection</b></p>\n<p>Musk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit&nbsp;with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"</p>\n<p>Musk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.</p>\n<p>Musk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"</p>\n<p><b>Tracking WSB Community Sentiment</b></p>\n<p>Thanks to a site called&nbsp;Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).</p>\n<p>If we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f24f2a63740b288ba4dad63e8fdaed3f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Another clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.</p>\n<p><b>Do Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?</b></p>\n<p>Swaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.</p>\n<p>Searching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a1e518a39e21d05f04e11f43de66c6a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"593\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>There appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.</p>\n<p><b>What Trends Can We See?</b></p>\n<p>Looking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.</p>\n<p>In my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.</p>\n<p>I argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d5f5e7c4dafad1ac25fb02d09b089e56\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>Does This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?</b></p>\n<p>Given GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.</p>\n<p>Again, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcda7b46bafc07f02eaa854255c64d63\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Looking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/af3145b857ea22dc2550227f9f93826b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"354\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>The Investment View: Results May Vary</b></p>\n<p>I would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.</p>\n<p>I would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.</p>\n<p>Overall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.</p>\n<p>Perhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.</p>\n<p><b>So What Does This Mean For TSLA?</b></p>\n<p>Coming full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.</p>\n<p>However, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.</p>\n<p>With that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.</p>\n<p><b>The Value Of A Mention</b></p>\n<p>It's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.</p>\n<p>On the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.</p>\n<p>If I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.</p>\n<p>If you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.</p>\n<p>In short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.\nI argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.\nA more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.\nSubreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst\nThe Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community popularised day trading of the firm.\nWSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.\nThe GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.\nGiven the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.\nThe Elon Musk/WSB Connection\nMusk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"\nMusk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.\nMusk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"\nTracking WSB Community Sentiment\nThanks to a site called Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).\nIf we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nAnother clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.\nDo Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?\nSwaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.\nSearching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThere appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.\nWhat Trends Can We See?\nLooking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.\nIn my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.\nI argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nDoes This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?\nGiven GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.\nAgain, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nLooking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThe Investment View: Results May Vary\nI would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.\nI would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.\nOverall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.\nPerhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.\nSo What Does This Mean For TSLA?\nComing full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.\nHowever, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.\nWith that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.\nThe Value Of A Mention\nIt's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.\nOn the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.\nIf I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.\nIf you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.\nIn short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":631,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":877133118,"gmtCreate":1637896007918,"gmtModify":1637896008593,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581994691472846","idStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nah","listText":"Nah","text":"Nah","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/877133118","repostId":"1120047068","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1120047068","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1637817955,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1120047068?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-25 13:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Memes Have Peaked On WallStreetBets - Why That's Bad For The Share Price","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1120047068","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nTesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.\n","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Tesla is a Reddit darling, but coverage has peaked, which generally precedes a price fall.</li>\n <li>Elon Musk is famously aware of and actively follows the popular subreddit WallStreetBets and may leverage that following to drive the Tesla share price higher.</li>\n <li>WallStreetBets is made up of 11.2m members and growing, mostly retail traders, who are unpredictable in their mob mentality.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f67c9cf0e3bb1692edac18342c9aa416\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>RichVintage/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Meme Stock Mentions As An Indicator</b></p>\n<p>I have a theory that the only reason Musk's Tesla (TSLA) has achieved the eye watering market capitalisation of $1.141T, with a P/E ratio of 368, is because Elon Musk himself is a master of PR and marketing.</p>\n<p>Core to this theory is that supply and demand is what drives a share's price (whereas fundamental and perceived value is what drives the individual investor to buy or sell), and demand can be manipulated through awareness and PR efforts. I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.</p>\n<p>I argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.</p>\n<p>A more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.</p>\n<p><b>Subreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst</b></p>\n<p>The Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community&nbsp;popularised day trading of the firm.</p>\n<p>WSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.</p>\n<p>The GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.</p>\n<p>Given the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.</p>\n<p><b>The Elon Musk/WSB Connection</b></p>\n<p>Musk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit&nbsp;with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"</p>\n<p>Musk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.</p>\n<p>Musk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"</p>\n<p><b>Tracking WSB Community Sentiment</b></p>\n<p>Thanks to a site called&nbsp;Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).</p>\n<p>If we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f24f2a63740b288ba4dad63e8fdaed3f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Another clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.</p>\n<p><b>Do Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?</b></p>\n<p>Swaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.</p>\n<p>Searching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a1e518a39e21d05f04e11f43de66c6a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"593\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>There appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.</p>\n<p><b>What Trends Can We See?</b></p>\n<p>Looking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.</p>\n<p>In my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.</p>\n<p>I argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d5f5e7c4dafad1ac25fb02d09b089e56\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"490\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>Does This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?</b></p>\n<p>Given GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.</p>\n<p>Again, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcda7b46bafc07f02eaa854255c64d63\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p>Looking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/af3145b857ea22dc2550227f9f93826b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"354\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Swaggy Stocks</span></p>\n<p><b>The Investment View: Results May Vary</b></p>\n<p>I would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.</p>\n<p>I would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.</p>\n<p>Overall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.</p>\n<p>Perhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.</p>\n<p><b>So What Does This Mean For TSLA?</b></p>\n<p>Coming full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.</p>\n<p>However, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.</p>\n<p>With that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.</p>\n<p><b>The Value Of A Mention</b></p>\n<p>It's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.</p>\n<p>On the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.</p>\n<p>If I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.</p>\n<p>If you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.</p>\n<p>In short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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I believe prices will revert back to fundamental value in the long run.\nI argue that this awareness effect applies more to retail investors than to more sophisticated investors or investment funds, though this would obviously have a flow-on effect on them.\nA more traditional example of this theory is how news and announcements affect share prices, albeit they are more closely tied to fundamental value.\nSubreddit WallStreetBets As A Catalyst\nThe Reddit Community WallStreetBets (WSB) is infamous for its role in the January 2021 GameStop saga, which led to a huge price increase in the retail firm's share price after the Reddit community popularised day trading of the firm.\nWSB is a community of mostly retail traders, some with no formal investing education or prior experience, and utilising margin loans through trading apps like Robinhood (though more experienced traders are present and active in the subreddit) to invest in the financial markets.\nThe GameStop saga may be (mostly) over now, but this community is still thriving. At the time of the GameStop saga, the community had less than 3m members, while today it has over 11.2m members.\nGiven the almost 4X growth in community size thanks to the amount of attention generated in the GameStop saga, it's arguable that the community is more powerful than ever before in the day trading space.\nThe Elon Musk/WSB Connection\nMusk is famously aware of, and following, the WSB subreddit,once tweeting to his 43m followers a link to the subreddit with the caption \"Gamestonk.\"\nMusk has also claimed that short sellers have a negative impact on the valuation of TSLA, and it's not hard to imagine how he might see WSB as a tool to affect the share price.\nMusk is regarded as a hero by the WSB community, who are very aware that he follows them, and often post memes or comments in a worshipful manner,declaring him a \"Meme Lord.\"\nTracking WSB Community Sentiment\nThanks to a site called Swaggy Stocks, we are able to track WSB sentiment towards TSLA and count TSLA mentions (and various other firms that get attention on the subreddit, such as the infamous GameStop (GME) short squeeze).\nIf we take a look at a 1-year history of the TSLA share price vs WSB mentions and sentiment, a cursory glance reveals a general correlation between mentions and upward price activity.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nAnother clear trend is the overwhelming positive sentiment towards TSLA (and almost any other stock mentioned there) from the WSB community. Search many of these comments and posts, and you'll see the phrase \"Stonks only go up!\" appear across many, many posts.\nDo Other Mediums Have The Same Correlation?\nSwaggy Stocks also tracks TSLA mentions across more traditional news sources and other social media sites.\nSearching social media for discussion and due-diligence style posts, Swaggy Stocks is able to show the total number of mentions TSLA generates, to compare with WSB.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThere appears to be a very similar correlation between broader social media mentions of TSLA and stock price activity, but it appears that this attention is reactionary rather than a lead indicator. It is, however, a confirmation of awareness of the stock following along with major price movements, up or down.\nWhat Trends Can We See?\nLooking at the two graphs of mentions vs stock price, the most prominent trend is how TSLA mentions, and discussion peaks mostly as major price spikes occur. It does not appear that mentions are a leading indicator, but perhaps a slow-down in mentions might indicate that any further major price movements are not to be expected.\nIn my eyes, the more interesting time period (circled in red below) is where mentions of TSLA slowed considerably, and the stock price dwindled following the peak in mentions.\nI argue that in this instance, when the stock fell from $900 to $600, WSB retail investors attention was diverted from the firm and this halted the upward price movement, sending the stock backward towards it's true long-run fundamental value.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nDoes This Awareness Effect Apply To Other Stocks?\nGiven GME was the beginning of notoriety for WSB, it's worth comparing the GME ticker to WSB sentiment to search for similar trends.\nAgain, large price movements occur around the same time as WSB commentary spikes, and prices tend to drift lower as attention drifts away.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nLooking at a third firm, Apple (AAPL), to compare WSB activity with the largest market cap firm in the US, the correlation between mentions and price activity is much weaker, suggesting that there may be a limit to the WSB community's influence. While activity still follows price movements, there is also the possibility WSB is just simply not as interested in AAPL as it is in TSLA or GME.\nSource: Swaggy Stocks\nThe Investment View: Results May Vary\nI would argue that WSB is not perhaps a leading indicator, but it does play a part in stock awareness and encourages new investors to enter the market.\nI would also argue that 11.2m retail investors is certainly a force to be reckoned with and worth paying attention to - perhaps not a guidance of which stock will boom next but rather which ones are overpriced or have peaked.\nOverall, there's a strong sense that stocks that receive attention from WSB undergo price volatility, and do drift back to their long-run fundamental value given enough time.\nPerhaps it's a case of, if WSB is promoting the stock, you're already too late.\nSo What Does This Mean For TSLA?\nComing full circle back to TSLA, and reviewing their WSB sentiment chart, I feel there is strong argument to be made that the stock is over-priced due to the presence of retail traders.\nHowever, monitoring WSB activity may give investors a helpful indicator of when TSLA may be about to experience a price correction as retail investor's attention is drawn away from the firm.\nWith that said, Elon Musk remains a variable worth watching given his awareness of the subreddit and its effect on the market, and he has the platform to drive attention back onto TSLA as he sees fit.\nThe Value Of A Mention\nIt's hard to place a quantifiable value on what a mention on WSB is worth to a firm, as individually they are probably worth close to $0. But more significant interest could have a life changing short term impact on current shareholders as the value of their portfolio balloons thanks to retail traders taking an interest in one of their holdings.\nOn the other hand, short sellers (such as those shorting GME earlier this year) could feel substantial pain, as their positions require covering at ever increasing prices.\nIf I was to place a value on it, I would suggest adjusting price targets by as much as 2X current price if a firm were to see significant interest through WSB - but this is tempered by the expectation that long term, the stock would return to its fundamental value.\nIf you're holding TSLA shares, it appears the music has stopped over at WSB, and prices may fall back to around $700 in the coming weeks.\nIn short, if your holding becomes a 'meme stock', take 2X your money and run - things are about to get volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":584,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":371708594,"gmtCreate":1618969251218,"gmtModify":1634289529859,"author":{"id":"3581994691472846","authorId":"3581994691472846","name":"613d6eb3","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581994691472846","idStr":"3581994691472846"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"not bad","listText":"not bad","text":"not bad","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/371708594","repostId":"2128847337","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2128847337","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1618932973,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2128847337?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-20 23:36","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla to launch self inspection over services in China","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2128847337","media":"Reuters","summary":"BEIJING, April 20 (Reuters) - U.S. electric vehicle maker Tesla Inc will launch self-inspection and ","content":"<p>BEIJING, April 20 (Reuters) - U.S. electric vehicle maker Tesla Inc will launch self-inspection and address customer service issues in China, it said on Weibo late on Tuesday.</p>\n<p>The statement comes after an unhappy customer clambered onto a Tesla car at the Shanghai Auto Show on Monday over a dispute with the company, creating a social media stir and criticism of Tesla from state media.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Here Are 4 Reasons.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1122253275","media":"Barron's","summary":"Just last Friday, the S&P 500 had closed at a record high. This week, the stock market can’t seem to","content":"<p>Just last Friday, the S&amp;P 500 had closed at a record high. This week, the stock market can’t seem to find its footing, with the major indexes slumping again Tuesday.</p>\n<p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 256.33 points, or 0.8%, the S&amp;P 500 fell 0.7%, and the Nasdaq Composite finished off 0.9%.</p>\n<p>It’s been a while since the stock market had a meaningful drop, and this one may not actually qualify. This was the S&amp;P 500’s largest drop since just March 23, so the current pullback may not be worth getting excited about. Then again, it could be the start of something bigger. Here are four reasons markets fell today.</p>\n<p>Covid Cases are rising globally. The seven-day average hit 628,035 on April 10, up 63% from 384346 on Feb. 28. Global cases have topped 142 million, and India recently reported more than 250,000 cases on its own. The continued spread threatens to overwhelm the positive narrative about vaccines in the U.S. Reports that India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi is set to address the country and that a full lockdown could but put in place has only spooked the market further.</p>\n<p>The vaccine narrative is weakening. The market opened lower this morning, but the drop really accelerated when the European Medicines Agency announced that it had found a possible link to very rare cases of blood clots in users of Johnson &amp; Johnson’s (JNJ) vaccine, and said a warning should be added. That overwhelmed its conclusion that the ‘overall benefit-risk remains positive’ for the vaccine because it could mean fewer people get vaccinated. Even before the latest announcement, confidence was eroding. “It doesn’t seem likely that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is going to completely disappear anytime soon,” JPMorgan strategists concluded in a report released Tuesday. “The lack of a vaccine for those aged under 18 years, the less than 100% take-up of vaccines, the less than 100% efficacy of vaccines and the development of variants mean that the prevalence of infection will remain for a long time, even if at a low level.”</p>\n<p>The reopening narrative is weakening. United Airlines (UAL) earnings were worse than expected. The U.S. State Department put 80% of the world’s nations on a “do not travel” list due to high levels of Covid. And the worst performing stocks are part of the reopening trade. Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings (NCLH) closed down 4.4%, American Airlines (AAL) slid 5.5%, Marriott International (MAR) fell 4%, Devon Energy (DVN) slumped 4.8%, and Zions Bancorp (ZION) has tumbled 6.5%. That pretty much says it all right there.</p>\n<p>Investors are questioning the economic recovery. At this point, everyone knows that the economic recovery is going to be strong. When even the International Monetary Fund realizes that’s the case, you know it’s consensus. Now, the market is wrestling with whether growth has peaked or if there’s further acceleration ahead. With little economic data to shift the narrative this week, investors are asking “what have you done for me lately.”</p>\n<p>None of this means a bear market is ahead of us, and just because investors are embracing a narrative, doesn’t mean that’s how the future plays out. It is the future, after all. But the market is always trying to adjust to greater risk after a massive rally. Perhaps a little more volatility is warranted.</p>","source":"lsy1610680873436","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Is the Stock Market Down Today? 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Here Are 4 Reasons.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-21 09:09 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/why-is-the-stock-market-dropping-today-here-are-4-reasons-51618933686?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barron's</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Just last Friday, the S&P 500 had closed at a record high. This week, the stock market can’t seem to find its footing, with the major indexes slumping again Tuesday.\nThe Dow Jones Industrial Average ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/why-is-the-stock-market-dropping-today-here-are-4-reasons-51618933686?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".DJI":"道琼斯","SPY":"标普500ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/why-is-the-stock-market-dropping-today-here-are-4-reasons-51618933686?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1122253275","content_text":"Just last Friday, the S&P 500 had closed at a record high. This week, the stock market can’t seem to find its footing, with the major indexes slumping again Tuesday.\nThe Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 256.33 points, or 0.8%, the S&P 500 fell 0.7%, and the Nasdaq Composite finished off 0.9%.\nIt’s been a while since the stock market had a meaningful drop, and this one may not actually qualify. This was the S&P 500’s largest drop since just March 23, so the current pullback may not be worth getting excited about. Then again, it could be the start of something bigger. Here are four reasons markets fell today.\nCovid Cases are rising globally. The seven-day average hit 628,035 on April 10, up 63% from 384346 on Feb. 28. Global cases have topped 142 million, and India recently reported more than 250,000 cases on its own. The continued spread threatens to overwhelm the positive narrative about vaccines in the U.S. Reports that India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi is set to address the country and that a full lockdown could but put in place has only spooked the market further.\nThe vaccine narrative is weakening. The market opened lower this morning, but the drop really accelerated when the European Medicines Agency announced that it had found a possible link to very rare cases of blood clots in users of Johnson & Johnson’s (JNJ) vaccine, and said a warning should be added. That overwhelmed its conclusion that the ‘overall benefit-risk remains positive’ for the vaccine because it could mean fewer people get vaccinated. Even before the latest announcement, confidence was eroding. “It doesn’t seem likely that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is going to completely disappear anytime soon,” JPMorgan strategists concluded in a report released Tuesday. “The lack of a vaccine for those aged under 18 years, the less than 100% take-up of vaccines, the less than 100% efficacy of vaccines and the development of variants mean that the prevalence of infection will remain for a long time, even if at a low level.”\nThe reopening narrative is weakening. United Airlines (UAL) earnings were worse than expected. The U.S. State Department put 80% of the world’s nations on a “do not travel” list due to high levels of Covid. And the worst performing stocks are part of the reopening trade. Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings (NCLH) closed down 4.4%, American Airlines (AAL) slid 5.5%, Marriott International (MAR) fell 4%, Devon Energy (DVN) slumped 4.8%, and Zions Bancorp (ZION) has tumbled 6.5%. That pretty much says it all right there.\nInvestors are questioning the economic recovery. At this point, everyone knows that the economic recovery is going to be strong. When even the International Monetary Fund realizes that’s the case, you know it’s consensus. Now, the market is wrestling with whether growth has peaked or if there’s further acceleration ahead. With little economic data to shift the narrative this week, investors are asking “what have you done for me lately.”\nNone of this means a bear market is ahead of us, and just because investors are embracing a narrative, doesn’t mean that’s how the future plays out. It is the future, after all. But the market is always trying to adjust to greater risk after a massive rally. Perhaps a little more volatility is warranted.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":234,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}