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2020-12-07

$蔚来(NIO)$ 蔚来这个月拔产能，下个月轿车发布，年报营收转正。。。希望不要被二傻影响，挺过这一波

2020-12-11

$蔚来(NIO)$ 27亿元，6000万股，折算一下差不多45左右

2021-04-01

$蔚来(NIO)$配套电驱动半个月前就庆祝下线20万台，这个产量其实早就定了的。出之前的新闻配合打压股价，实在是。。。。

2020-12-02

$蔚来(NIO)$靠谱

2021-03-03

理想核心三电都是外购，蔚来目前用的都是自研，这就是差距

蔚来净亏损比理想高34倍谁更有未来？

2020-12-02

$蔚来(NIO)$ 不用担心蔚来会被退市，蔚来的审计事务所和特斯拉是同一个美国会计事务所

2020-11-18

$NIO Inc.(NIO)$ 有人要收货不让价格走起来啊，事实上哪来这么多实力小散接货

2021-01-29

不要脸的媒体，见钱说话

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-12-07

$蔚来(NIO)$ 蔚来不会增发，蔚来下一步是蔚来中国科创板上市。和zf有对赌协议的，割国内韭菜

2020-12-02

$蔚来(NIO)$会不会反手拉伸打爆空仓

2020-11-03

一般缓了都是一年起步

蚂蚁十日：从马云喊话监管开始，以蚂蚁暂缓上市结束

2020-12-03

$蔚来(NIO)$走的很弱，坏事？

2020-12-03

$蔚来(NIO)$ 这算报复性反弹还是重回上涨趋势？

2020-11-03

蚂蚁和大象玩踩脚板游戏的结果就是这样

蚂蚁十日：从马云喊话监管开始，以蚂蚁暂缓上市结束

2021-03-30

不用怕！李斌把全体员工的年终奖兑换成股票发了了，现在大家都处于亏损，这种状态肯定不会持续的。

@阿尔卑斯山之秋:$蔚来(NIO)$50多60的时候本以为是个开始，没想到是个巅峰[笑哭]

2021-03-27

结合要在港股上市，司马昭之心可见一斑

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-03-27

以前都是严禁员工往外漏这种消息的，这次主动曝光，很奇怪

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-03-27

之前停产更长时间外面都没消息，故意配合砸盘吧

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-01-29

第一财经一直是非常不要脸的，谁给钱帮谁说话

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-01-29

接下来逼着美国散户们也要'股命贵'了

香橼称将有重大事件宣布！个人投资者应该关注该声明

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