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06-25

$英伟达(NVDA)$ 后天股东大会了，让股东们看瀑布吗？坚定看多英伟达，越跌越买，2016年以前他不会有对手！

10-15

订单和销售额有何区别，哪位大佬科普一下，为什么订单少了销售额反而多了

阿斯麦Q3订单远逊预期，下调2025年净销售额和毛利率指引

10-15

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 空头再不跑，短裤都要赔掉

2023-05-09

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 特斯拉还能回400美金吗，需要多久？

2022-02-04

$特斯拉(TSLA)$还是有大量做空特斯拉的人，他们牺牲自己为别人制造上车机会，令人倾佩

2021-10-29

苹果既是消费股又是科技股，以科技股的高成长性来看它这个数据非常漂亮，以消费股来看也不错，预期给的目标太高了，期待今晚开盘下跌，当买年化十几个点的理财了

苹果财年收官季营收四年来首逊预期！盘后一度跌逾5%

2023-07-20

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 每次不及预期都会下跌，到后面又都会涨回来，那么这般**所谓的预期有什么价值？

2023-07-05

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 特斯拉不存在芯片限制，而比亚迪存在[开心] [开心] [开心]

12-04

比特币不就是赌博吗？它是如何涨到今天这个恐怖价位的

Super Micro Computer: You're Gambling If You Buy This, Not Investing

06-12

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 重新迎接辉煌！钢铁侠马斯克

2023-09-19

如果这种分析有用的话，那么这些分析师应该比巴菲特还有钱才对

和大摩唱反调！高盛预计特斯拉价格战打不停，下调盈利预期，后者跌超3%

2021-10-29

价值投资者都是木叶村的火影，期待第四季度芯片供应缓解后的苹果汽车风口

抱歉，原内容已删除

2021-02-23

这个大空头前段时间做空特斯拉亏得很惨，哈哈哈哈

《大空头》原型连发警告：恶性通胀已酝酿十年

12-11

$超微电脑(SMCI)$ 击碎谣言，这么优秀的企业，这么重要的AI供应链，怎么能离开纳斯达克呢？恐怖片剧本都不敢这么写吧

11-14

英国流氓名不虚传

英国消费者组织对苹果iCloud服务提起30亿英镑反垄断诉讼

06-24

$英伟达(NVDA)$

06-13

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 曾经让世界顶尖的做空机构交出了自己的底裤，今晚看钢铁侠的表演了

2023-09-15

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 每次卖出后都大涨[呆住]

2023-07-10

$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 身子太虚，还需时日

2021-04-29

赚不赚钱和要不要命哪个更重要，有好的财运无论用什么办法炒股都会赚钱，不值得过于纠结

美国传奇投资人跳楼自杀，坚持价值投资数十载

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Young.</p></li><li><p>Investing in SMCI now is more akin to gambling than smart investing due to the high level of unknowns and potential for severe negative outcomes.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d0dd59825e09cdca1d96afc5c7f9a0d1\" alt=\"SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images\" title=\"SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><h2 id=\"id_2160079058\">Introduction</h2><p>I mostly like to talk about buying opportunities here on Seeking Alpha, but I&#39;ve noted that a lot of people have been buying Super Micro Computer (NASDAQ:SMCI) recently, post the news that they appointed BDO as auditor.</p><p>Despite this appointment having some potential good news and a sign of hope, there&#39;s way too many unknowns and risk factors that, as investors on the outside, we just don&#39;t know the answers to. Of course, when we invest, there&#39;s always some unknowns and risks to take, but for me here, there&#39;s just way too many unknowns, which makes it a very illogical investment.</p><h2 id=\"id_1452235947\">Background</h2><p>SMCI has been on a crazy ride throughout 2024, rising from $28 back in January all the way up to $115 in March, which equates to a 307% increase in 3 months.</p><p>It then dropped down to $18 by November 15th, erasing 85% of the total market cap. This drop came after Ernst &amp; Young (SMCI&#39;s auditor) resigned on October 24th. Ernst &amp; Young cited reasons including:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Lack of trust in management</p></li><li><p>Weak internal controls</p></li><li><p>Lack of board independence</p></li></ul><p>When an auditor resigns from auditing a client the size of SMCI it&#39;s never a good sign. Auditors spend hours fighting to win over the biggest clients which allows them to rake in the huge audit fees, but when they deem the risk of being associated with a listed client to be far more negative than the huge audit fees they would receive, there&#39;s likely something out of the ordinary going on.</p><h2 id=\"id_146560957\">Here&#39;s why SMCI is not worth investing into.</h2><p>If this auditor resignation was a one-off issue, then I&#39;d be inclined to give SMCI the benefit of doubt (though I&#39;d still remain extremely cautious), but unfortunately this negativity around SMCI is not a one-off at all.</p><p>The past 6 years has seen:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>NASDAQ delisting</p></li><li><p>$17.5 million fine to SEC</p></li><li><p>Hindenburg Research (one of the most famous short sellers)</p></li><li><p>Department of Justice probe</p></li></ul><p>I&#39;m going to go over each one of these to explain exactly what&#39;s happened and my take on them all.</p><h3 id=\"id_2241418678\">NASDAQ delisting - 2018</h3><p>SMCI was temporarily delisted from the NASDAQ stock exchange in August 2018 due to failure to comply with NASDAQ timelines of financial reports. Companies get delisted for many reasons, however the 3 main reasons are:</p><ol start=\"1\" style=\"\"><li><p>Voluntary delisting.</p></li><li><p>Falling below a certain market cap or $1.00 stock price.</p></li><li><p>Accounting issues/missed deadlines.</p></li></ol><p>Reason 3 is exactly why SMCI got delisted, and it tends to be the least common and perhaps most serious due to the internal inefficiencies. NASDAQ generally does have fairly long &#34;grace periods&#34; meaning SMCI failed to comply with the extended NASDAQ deadlines, something which has not happened to a company of SMCI&#39;s size in a long time.</p><h3 id=\"id_37544222\">Fine</h3><p>In 2020, SMCI paid a $17.5 million fine to the SEC for accounting violations in which they neither admitted nor denied the SEC findings. The violations were due to incorrect revenue recognition, understating expenses, and other accounting violations over a period of 3 years.</p><p>Arguably a one-off instance like this would not cause too much panic, but the continuous nature of this raises skepticism.</p><h3 id=\"id_1199563137\">Department of Justice</h3><p>On top of all this negativity, SMCI has an ongoing DoJ (Department of Justice) probe which is looking into accounting violations. DoJ probes are a big deal and are likely to have an overarching effect on the SMCI stock price even if all of all the other unknowns start to become more clear.</p><p>As I mentioned before with the Hindenburg research, we have to take their report with a pinch of salt since they are a short-seller after all. However, an investigation by the DoJ is much more serious and anything that comes up in that investigation will materially affect SMCI&#39;s future.</p><h3 id=\"id_494708400\">BDO Appointment</h3><p>The positive news after all of this is that SMCI managed to appoint BDO (the 5th largest accounting firm) after all of the above incidents, which has to be a win because it gives them hope to at least restore investor confidence, and prepare some financial statements. That&#39;s all the good news I can say about this though.</p><p>The bad news is that BDO isn&#39;t a big 4 company that SMCI would have appointed. BDO also has had poor results over recent years in terms of audit quality. To put it simply, SMCI would not have wanted to appoint an auditor outside of the Big 4. It&#39;s a shame that this is the way it is, but for a company in the S&amp;P 500, Big 4 auditors are by far the most common. Unless there&#39;s a good reason not to appoint a Big 4 auditor, S&amp;P 500 companies simply look a bit more questionable if they don&#39;t have a Big 4 company auditing them.</p><p>The other important thing to note is that even though SMCI has appointed a BDO, initial screening or conversations with EY (previous auditor) have not occurred. This was all disclosed in the 8-K but obviously wasn&#39;t part of the headlines. Simply what is happening is that BDO are the only company to at least consider looking at the SMCI books in the hope that everything is ok, and therefore they potentially have one of the biggest clients on the books.</p><p>In my opinion, realistically, the issues that EY found won&#39;t have been resolved and BDO will also likely find these issues, meaning they&#39;ll not sign off.</p><p>Let me take this even further. A first year audit takes a long time. It includes getting a very solid understanding of the company, the internal controls, previous period&#39;s numbers etc., etc. In my opinion, the entire process likely cannot happen before February 2025, which is when NASDAQ has granted a filing extension until.</p><p>If the BDO does manage to get all this work done, and assuming there&#39;s no issues found (unlikely in my opinion), there is still a chance of secondary reviews by regulators.</p><h2 id=\"id_4231930187\">So is SMCI a buy, sell, or hold?</h2><p>SMCI has performed well the last 3 weeks post appointment of auditor, BDO, plus a short squeeze. Whilst the share price shows some potential signs of recovery, I hope this article made it clear exactly how much risk there still is.</p><p>SMCI still has to get BDO to audit their financials by February without any findings, a potential secondary review, and also get through the DoJ investigation to essentially survive. If any of these come back with material findings, I think there&#39;s a very good chance that SMCI gets delisted, which will, of course, have material consequences for all investors.</p><p>Of course, I may be wrong here, and I may be overly worried about the legitimacy of the financials, but when there&#39;s hundreds and if not thousands of other stocks without any risk of these issues, I don&#39;t see why it&#39;s worth risking an investment into SMCI.</p><p>My overall take is that I&#39;d give it a 50:50 chance as to whether SMCI recovers and, in my opinion, investing in them is much more gambling, rather than data driven, educated, smart investing.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1728464409321","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Super Micro Computer: You're Gambling If You Buy This, Not Investing</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Of course, when we invest, there's always some unknowns and risks to take, but for me here, there's just way too many unknowns, which makes it a very illogical investment.BackgroundSMCI has been on a crazy ride throughout 2024, rising from $28 back in January all the way up to $115 in March, which equates to a 307% increase in 3 months.It then dropped down to $18 by November 15th, erasing 85% of the total market cap. This drop came after Ernst & Young (SMCI's auditor) resigned on October 24th. Ernst & Young cited reasons including:Lack of trust in managementWeak internal controlsLack of board independenceWhen an auditor resigns from auditing a client the size of SMCI it's never a good sign. Auditors spend hours fighting to win over the biggest clients which allows them to rake in the huge audit fees, but when they deem the risk of being associated with a listed client to be far more negative than the huge audit fees they would receive, there's likely something out of the ordinary going on.Here's why SMCI is not worth investing into.If this auditor resignation was a one-off issue, then I'd be inclined to give SMCI the benefit of doubt (though I'd still remain extremely cautious), but unfortunately this negativity around SMCI is not a one-off at all.The past 6 years has seen:NASDAQ delisting$17.5 million fine to SECHindenburg Research (one of the most famous short sellers)Department of Justice probeI'm going to go over each one of these to explain exactly what's happened and my take on them all.NASDAQ delisting - 2018SMCI was temporarily delisted from the NASDAQ stock exchange in August 2018 due to failure to comply with NASDAQ timelines of financial reports. Companies get delisted for many reasons, however the 3 main reasons are:Voluntary delisting.Falling below a certain market cap or $1.00 stock price.Accounting issues/missed deadlines.Reason 3 is exactly why SMCI got delisted, and it tends to be the least common and perhaps most serious due to the internal inefficiencies. NASDAQ generally does have fairly long \"grace periods\" meaning SMCI failed to comply with the extended NASDAQ deadlines, something which has not happened to a company of SMCI's size in a long time.FineIn 2020, SMCI paid a $17.5 million fine to the SEC for accounting violations in which they neither admitted nor denied the SEC findings. The violations were due to incorrect revenue recognition, understating expenses, and other accounting violations over a period of 3 years.Arguably a one-off instance like this would not cause too much panic, but the continuous nature of this raises skepticism.Department of JusticeOn top of all this negativity, SMCI has an ongoing DoJ (Department of Justice) probe which is looking into accounting violations. DoJ probes are a big deal and are likely to have an overarching effect on the SMCI stock price even if all of all the other unknowns start to become more clear.As I mentioned before with the Hindenburg research, we have to take their report with a pinch of salt since they are a short-seller after all. However, an investigation by the DoJ is much more serious and anything that comes up in that investigation will materially affect SMCI's future.BDO AppointmentThe positive news after all of this is that SMCI managed to appoint BDO (the 5th largest accounting firm) after all of the above incidents, which has to be a win because it gives them hope to at least restore investor confidence, and prepare some financial statements. That's all the good news I can say about this though.The bad news is that BDO isn't a big 4 company that SMCI would have appointed. BDO also has had poor results over recent years in terms of audit quality. To put it simply, SMCI would not have wanted to appoint an auditor outside of the Big 4. It's a shame that this is the way it is, but for a company in the S&P 500, Big 4 auditors are by far the most common. Unless there's a good reason not to appoint a Big 4 auditor, S&P 500 companies simply look a bit more questionable if they don't have a Big 4 company auditing them.The other important thing to note is that even though SMCI has appointed a BDO, initial screening or conversations with EY (previous auditor) have not occurred. This was all disclosed in the 8-K but obviously wasn't part of the headlines. Simply what is happening is that BDO are the only company to at least consider looking at the SMCI books in the hope that everything is ok, and therefore they potentially have one of the biggest clients on the books.In my opinion, realistically, the issues that EY found won't have been resolved and BDO will also likely find these issues, meaning they'll not sign off.Let me take this even further. A first year audit takes a long time. It includes getting a very solid understanding of the company, the internal controls, previous period's numbers etc., etc. In my opinion, the entire process likely cannot happen before February 2025, which is when NASDAQ has granted a filing extension until.If the BDO does manage to get all this work done, and assuming there's no issues found (unlikely in my opinion), there is still a chance of secondary reviews by regulators.So is SMCI a buy, sell, or hold?SMCI has performed well the last 3 weeks post appointment of auditor, BDO, plus a short squeeze. Whilst the share price shows some potential signs of recovery, I hope this article made it clear exactly how much risk there still is.SMCI still has to get BDO to audit their financials by February without any findings, a potential secondary review, and also get through the DoJ investigation to essentially survive. If any of these come back with material findings, I think there's a very good chance that SMCI gets delisted, which will, of course, have material consequences for all investors.Of course, I may be wrong here, and I may be overly worried about the legitimacy of the financials, but when there's hundreds and if not thousands of other stocks without any risk of these issues, I don't see why it's worth risking an investment into SMCI.My overall take is that I'd give it a 50:50 chance as to whether SMCI recovers and, in my opinion, investing in them is much more gambling, rather than data driven, educated, smart 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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><b>苹果2021财年收官季营收四年来首次逊于预期，仍创同期新高，供应限制损失60亿美元</b></p>\n<p>财报显示，苹果在2021财年的收官季度录得营收833.6亿美元，同比增29%，至9月季度的公司史上最高，但逊于分析师预期的846.9亿美元，环比增2.4%。</p>\n<p>摊薄后每股收益EPS 1.24美元，与市场预期一致，较去年同期的0.73美元增近70%，但逊于上季度的1.30美元。季度整体毛利率为42.2%，逊于上季的43.3%，但高于市场预期的42%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d5832cc79855b93b9415e241b0e174d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"452\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>需要注意到，去年此时iPhone 12系列尚未发布，因此苹果本份财报与去年同期的比较更为容易，却还逊于预期。<b>公司CEO库克对CNBC表示，这主要是由于供应限制大于预期，所造成负面影响预计高达60亿美元，除了芯片短缺，还与东南亚因疫情复燃导致的制造中断有关。</b></p>\n<p>库克还预警称，当前的9-12月重磅年末节假日购物季“将面临更严重的供应限制”。当10月结束时，与疫情相关的供应链中断已经大幅改善，芯片短缺还在持续。不过，供应问题出在较旧的芯片上，而非苹果设备核心的技术更先进处理器上。</p>\n<p>财报发布前几天，彭博社曾报道称，由于全球半导体危机，苹果可能决定将今年的旗舰产品iPhone 13生产目标削减1000万部，在需求高涨的当下或影响年末购物季销售额。</p>\n<p>此外，苹果宣布将每股派息0.22美元，第四财季向股东返还了超过240亿美元，季末所持净现金降至660亿美元，重回2011年3月的水平，2017年12月曾为1630亿美元。由于公司承诺实现“长期净现金中性立场”，分析师普遍预计苹果的股息分红和股票回购会持续增加。</p>\n<p><b>iPhone销售额连续两季激增近50%但逊于预期，Mac和服务再新高，连续七季没有指引</b></p>\n<p>分业务来看，<b>苹果各大产品线均录得同比增长，iPhone销售额连续两个季度激增近50%</b>：</p>\n<blockquote>\n 7-9月的季度iPhone智能手机收入388.7 亿美元，逊于市场预期的416亿美元，不过同比增47%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 当季iPad平板电脑收入82.5亿美元，高于预期的71.6亿美元，同比增21.4%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 当季Mac电脑收入91.8亿美元，逊于预期的93.1亿美元，但创公司史上最高，同比增1.6%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 当季可穿戴设备、居家用品及配件收入87.9亿美元，逊于预期的92.8亿美元，同比增11.5%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/00886d8392fbd7cff0fcacbdb4a3266a\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 汇总可知，当季硬件产品收入650.8亿美元，逊于预期的687.2亿美元，其中iPhone手机贡献了46.6%的总营收，依旧占据近“半壁江山”。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 同时，另一增长引擎服务收入连续三个季度创公司史上新高，当季录得182.8亿美元，高于预期的175.7亿美元，同比增25.6%。\n</blockquote>\n<p>但华尔街见闻也发现，<b>苹果总营收、摊薄后EPS、iPhone、当季没有推出新品的Mac电脑、包括苹果手表和AirPods无线耳机的可穿戴设备，以及服务的收入同比增幅均逊于上一季度。</b>在4-6月季度，上述几项的同比增幅分别为36%、逾100%、近50%、16%、36%和33%。这也令苹果连续三个季度“所有产品类别的收入均实现双位数百分比涨幅”的趋势戛然而止。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/004e89e1f4cea35fd93da1e9e55ec09b\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"291\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>库克今日称，需求端非常强劲，财报期内的服务收入同比增幅好于公司预期。尽管苹果自疫情以来已经连续第七个季度没有给出业绩指引，他预计9-12月季度的收入将“同比稳健增长”。</p>\n<p>不过，<b>尽管他预计2022财年第一财季收入将再创同期新高，iPad收入同比可能会因供应链问题而下滑，其他产品收入将同比增长，但服务收入增速将再度放缓</b>。</p>\n<p>公司CFO Luca Maestri还透露，供应紊乱造成的负面影响可能会超过60亿美元，预计公司的大部分产品类别都将在9-12月季度受到限制。</p>\n<p><b>大中华区销售同比再激增56%，与去年形成鲜明反差，App Store收入创新高</b></p>\n<p><b>苹果的各大地理市场分区再次集体实现双位数百分比涨幅，大中华区销售额同比增56.1%，</b>接近上季度的同比增幅58%，今年自然年一季度曾同比增逾87%：</p>\n<blockquote>\n 当季苹果在大中华地区的销售收入为145.63亿美元，去年同期曾营收大降逾28%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 当季的美洲市场收入同比增近20%至368.2亿美元，弱于今年自然年前两个季度逾30%的增幅。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 在欧洲收入同比增23%至207.94亿美元，今年自然年前两季曾分别增近56%和近34%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 在日本收入同比增超19%至59.91亿美元，今年自然年前两季曾分别增近49%和近30%。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 在中日以外的亚太市场收入同比增近26%至51.92亿美元，今年自然年一季度曾接近翻倍。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f2237e58147fc98b5663b6ff0f20de1c\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"302\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">\n</blockquote>\n<p>公司高管在财报电话会上称，截至今年9月25日的2021财年，有将近三分之一的收入来自新兴市场，其中印度和越南市场的收入翻倍。</p>\n<p>电话会还提到：</p>\n<blockquote>\n 包括苹果音乐等第一方服务和通过苹果应用商店进行的订阅，令苹果拥有7.45亿付费订阅账户，较去年同期增加1.6亿，并在五年里增长了五倍；\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n Apple TV+视频流媒体服务在上市两年里证明市场前景良好；\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 虽然9月14日发布了新版旗舰手机iPhone&nbsp;13系列，但去年发行的iPhone&nbsp;12销售仍然很好；\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 在第四财季，大约一半的iPad和Mac买家是新用户，APP Store收入创历史新高；\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n Mac收入受到搭配苹果自研芯片版本MacBook&nbsp;Air销售情况的推动。\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 所有主要产品类别中的活跃设备安装数量均创下历史新高。\n</blockquote>\n<p><b>华尔街：未来最重要的是苹果供应链干扰，iOS隐私更改或利好苹果自身广告业务</b></p>\n<p>分析称，今年自然年三季度仅包含iPhone 13正式销售后的一周，因此本次财报不会令人得出苹果新产品引发换机周期的强度结论。市场高度关注公司是否给出常规的财报指引，之所以重要，是因为9-12月是重要的年末假日购物季，将一窥新产品销量情况。</p>\n<p>苹果在过去两个月频繁发布新的硬件设备与服务选项，9月举办了传统的秋季发布会，介绍了新一代智能手机、苹果手表和iPad平板电脑，10月发布会又推出了搭载更强大自研芯片的MacBook Pro高端笔记本电脑和下一代AirPods无线耳机。新品销售都将在下季财报展现。</p>\n<p>彭博社指出，<b>当下最大的关注焦点就是苹果供应链，其他一切问题都退居次要地位</b>：</p>\n<blockquote>\n “我们必须弄清楚苹果在未来六个月内可以出货多少部iPhone手机，这决定了公司在2022财年的销售增长。我们都知道需求就在那里，经济周期、5G升级和运营商的换机激励都在抬高需求。”\n</blockquote>\n<p>被称为“最懂苹果分析师”之一的天风国际郭明錤曾在9月下旬iPhone上市后撰写研报称，iPhone 13系列预购高于iPhone 12系列，但符合市场预期；iPhone 13 Pro Max &amp; Pro供应短缺的持续时间可能短于iPhone 12 Pro Max &amp; Pro；iPhone 13 Pro Max &amp; Pro供货改善时程将影响1Q22 iPhone出货量。若iPhone 13 Pro Max &amp; Pro供应在11月中旬显著改善，则1Q22 iPhone出货量将YoY持平或衰退，iPhone在2022与2023年YoY出货成长将放缓，不利于推升供应链股价。</p>\n<p>展望未来，除了要继续关心美国司法部正在加速进行的反垄断调查，可能增加苹果面临反垄断诉讼的风险，以及App Store向开发者收取的高昂“苹果税”遭遇不少公司诉讼，可能影响苹果未来收入之外，不乏分析师关注iOS隐私规则更改给苹果带来的广告业务机遇。</p>\n<p>Evercore ISI 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人评级“持有”，仅有2人评级“卖出”。平均目标价为167.32美元，较周四收盘价还有近10%的涨幅空间。\n据财经媒体CNBC援引Refinitiv的数据，由于苹果自2016年4月以来首次季度EPS未能超过市场预期，以及自2017年5月以来首次季度营收低于预期，盘后一度跌5%。\n苹果2021财年收官季营收四年来首次逊于预期，仍创同期新高，供应限制损失60亿美元\n财报显示，苹果在2021财年的收官季度录得营收833.6亿美元，同比增29%，至9月季度的公司史上最高，但逊于分析师预期的846.9亿美元，环比增2.4%。\n摊薄后每股收益EPS 1.24美元，与市场预期一致，较去年同期的0.73美元增近70%，但逊于上季度的1.30美元。季度整体毛利率为42.2%，逊于上季的43.3%，但高于市场预期的42%。\n\n需要注意到，去年此时iPhone 12系列尚未发布，因此苹果本份财报与去年同期的比较更为容易，却还逊于预期。公司CEO库克对CNBC表示，这主要是由于供应限制大于预期，所造成负面影响预计高达60亿美元，除了芯片短缺，还与东南亚因疫情复燃导致的制造中断有关。\n库克还预警称，当前的9-12月重磅年末节假日购物季“将面临更严重的供应限制”。当10月结束时，与疫情相关的供应链中断已经大幅改善，芯片短缺还在持续。不过，供应问题出在较旧的芯片上，而非苹果设备核心的技术更先进处理器上。\n财报发布前几天，彭博社曾报道称，由于全球半导体危机，苹果可能决定将今年的旗舰产品iPhone 13生产目标削减1000万部，在需求高涨的当下或影响年末购物季销售额。\n此外，苹果宣布将每股派息0.22美元，第四财季向股东返还了超过240亿美元，季末所持净现金降至660亿美元，重回2011年3月的水平，2017年12月曾为1630亿美元。由于公司承诺实现“长期净现金中性立场”，分析师普遍预计苹果的股息分红和股票回购会持续增加。\niPhone销售额连续两季激增近50%但逊于预期，Mac和服务再新高，连续七季没有指引\n分业务来看，苹果各大产品线均录得同比增长，iPhone销售额连续两个季度激增近50%：\n\n 7-9月的季度iPhone智能手机收入388.7 亿美元，逊于市场预期的416亿美元，不过同比增47%。\n\n\n 当季iPad平板电脑收入82.5亿美元，高于预期的71.6亿美元，同比增21.4%。\n\n\n 当季Mac电脑收入91.8亿美元，逊于预期的93.1亿美元，但创公司史上最高，同比增1.6%。\n\n\n 当季可穿戴设备、居家用品及配件收入87.9亿美元，逊于预期的92.8亿美元，同比增11.5%。\n\n\n\n\n\n 汇总可知，当季硬件产品收入650.8亿美元，逊于预期的687.2亿美元，其中iPhone手机贡献了46.6%的总营收，依旧占据近“半壁江山”。\n\n\n 同时，另一增长引擎服务收入连续三个季度创公司史上新高，当季录得182.8亿美元，高于预期的175.7亿美元，同比增25.6%。\n\n但华尔街见闻也发现，苹果总营收、摊薄后EPS、iPhone、当季没有推出新品的Mac电脑、包括苹果手表和AirPods无线耳机的可穿戴设备，以及服务的收入同比增幅均逊于上一季度。在4-6月季度，上述几项的同比增幅分别为36%、逾100%、近50%、16%、36%和33%。这也令苹果连续三个季度“所有产品类别的收入均实现双位数百分比涨幅”的趋势戛然而止。\n\n库克今日称，需求端非常强劲，财报期内的服务收入同比增幅好于公司预期。尽管苹果自疫情以来已经连续第七个季度没有给出业绩指引，他预计9-12月季度的收入将“同比稳健增长”。\n不过，尽管他预计2022财年第一财季收入将再创同期新高，iPad收入同比可能会因供应链问题而下滑，其他产品收入将同比增长，但服务收入增速将再度放缓。\n公司CFO Luca Maestri还透露，供应紊乱造成的负面影响可能会超过60亿美元，预计公司的大部分产品类别都将在9-12月季度受到限制。\n大中华区销售同比再激增56%，与去年形成鲜明反差，App Store收入创新高\n苹果的各大地理市场分区再次集体实现双位数百分比涨幅，大中华区销售额同比增56.1%，接近上季度的同比增幅58%，今年自然年一季度曾同比增逾87%：\n\n 当季苹果在大中华地区的销售收入为145.63亿美元，去年同期曾营收大降逾28%。\n\n\n 当季的美洲市场收入同比增近20%至368.2亿美元，弱于今年自然年前两个季度逾30%的增幅。\n\n\n 在欧洲收入同比增23%至207.94亿美元，今年自然年前两季曾分别增近56%和近34%。\n\n\n 在日本收入同比增超19%至59.91亿美元，今年自然年前两季曾分别增近49%和近30%。\n\n\n 在中日以外的亚太市场收入同比增近26%至51.92亿美元，今年自然年一季度曾接近翻倍。\n\n\n\n\n公司高管在财报电话会上称，截至今年9月25日的2021财年，有将近三分之一的收入来自新兴市场，其中印度和越南市场的收入翻倍。\n电话会还提到：\n\n 包括苹果音乐等第一方服务和通过苹果应用商店进行的订阅，令苹果拥有7.45亿付费订阅账户，较去年同期增加1.6亿，并在五年里增长了五倍；\n\n\n Apple TV+视频流媒体服务在上市两年里证明市场前景良好；\n\n\n 虽然9月14日发布了新版旗舰手机iPhone 13系列，但去年发行的iPhone 12销售仍然很好；\n\n\n 在第四财季，大约一半的iPad和Mac买家是新用户，APP Store收入创历史新高；\n\n\n Mac收入受到搭配苹果自研芯片版本MacBook Air销售情况的推动。\n\n\n 所有主要产品类别中的活跃设备安装数量均创下历史新高。\n\n华尔街：未来最重要的是苹果供应链干扰，iOS隐私更改或利好苹果自身广告业务\n分析称，今年自然年三季度仅包含iPhone 13正式销售后的一周，因此本次财报不会令人得出苹果新产品引发换机周期的强度结论。市场高度关注公司是否给出常规的财报指引，之所以重要，是因为9-12月是重要的年末假日购物季，将一窥新产品销量情况。\n苹果在过去两个月频繁发布新的硬件设备与服务选项，9月举办了传统的秋季发布会，介绍了新一代智能手机、苹果手表和iPad平板电脑，10月发布会又推出了搭载更强大自研芯片的MacBook Pro高端笔记本电脑和下一代AirPods无线耳机。新品销售都将在下季财报展现。\n彭博社指出，当下最大的关注焦点就是苹果供应链，其他一切问题都退居次要地位：\n\n “我们必须弄清楚苹果在未来六个月内可以出货多少部iPhone手机，这决定了公司在2022财年的销售增长。我们都知道需求就在那里，经济周期、5G升级和运营商的换机激励都在抬高需求。”\n\n被称为“最懂苹果分析师”之一的天风国际郭明錤曾在9月下旬iPhone上市后撰写研报称，iPhone 13系列预购高于iPhone 12系列，但符合市场预期；iPhone 13 Pro Max & 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11:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Super Micro Computer: You're Gambling If You Buy This, Not Investing","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1199304506","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummarySMCI's recent auditor resignation, and ongoing DoJ investigation make it a highly risky investment despite a recent short-term price surge.SMCI's past issues include NASDAQ delisting, SEC fines","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_2210350387\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>SMCI&#39;s recent auditor resignation, and ongoing DoJ investigation make it a highly risky investment despite a recent short-term price surge.</p></li><li><p>SMCI&#39;s past issues include NASDAQ delisting, SEC fines, which all raise serious concerns about its financial integrity.</p></li><li><p>The appointment of BDO as the new auditor offers some hope but doesn&#39;t eliminate the significant risks and unresolved issues identified by Ernst &amp; Young.</p></li><li><p>Investing in SMCI now is more akin to gambling than smart investing due to the high level of unknowns and potential for severe negative outcomes.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d0dd59825e09cdca1d96afc5c7f9a0d1\" alt=\"SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images\" title=\"SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>SlavkoSereda/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><h2 id=\"id_2160079058\">Introduction</h2><p>I mostly like to talk about buying opportunities here on Seeking Alpha, but I&#39;ve noted that a lot of people have been buying Super Micro Computer (NASDAQ:SMCI) recently, post the news that they appointed BDO as auditor.</p><p>Despite this appointment having some potential good news and a sign of hope, there&#39;s way too many unknowns and risk factors that, as investors on the outside, we just don&#39;t know the answers to. Of course, when we invest, there&#39;s always some unknowns and risks to take, but for me here, there&#39;s just way too many unknowns, which makes it a very illogical investment.</p><h2 id=\"id_1452235947\">Background</h2><p>SMCI has been on a crazy ride throughout 2024, rising from $28 back in January all the way up to $115 in March, which equates to a 307% increase in 3 months.</p><p>It then dropped down to $18 by November 15th, erasing 85% of the total market cap. This drop came after Ernst &amp; Young (SMCI&#39;s auditor) resigned on October 24th. Ernst &amp; Young cited reasons including:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Lack of trust in management</p></li><li><p>Weak internal controls</p></li><li><p>Lack of board independence</p></li></ul><p>When an auditor resigns from auditing a client the size of SMCI it&#39;s never a good sign. Auditors spend hours fighting to win over the biggest clients which allows them to rake in the huge audit fees, but when they deem the risk of being associated with a listed client to be far more negative than the huge audit fees they would receive, there&#39;s likely something out of the ordinary going on.</p><h2 id=\"id_146560957\">Here&#39;s why SMCI is not worth investing into.</h2><p>If this auditor resignation was a one-off issue, then I&#39;d be inclined to give SMCI the benefit of doubt (though I&#39;d still remain extremely cautious), but unfortunately this negativity around SMCI is not a one-off at all.</p><p>The past 6 years has seen:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>NASDAQ delisting</p></li><li><p>$17.5 million fine to SEC</p></li><li><p>Hindenburg Research (one of the most famous short sellers)</p></li><li><p>Department of Justice probe</p></li></ul><p>I&#39;m going to go over each one of these to explain exactly what&#39;s happened and my take on them all.</p><h3 id=\"id_2241418678\">NASDAQ delisting - 2018</h3><p>SMCI was temporarily delisted from the NASDAQ stock exchange in August 2018 due to failure to comply with NASDAQ timelines of financial reports. Companies get delisted for many reasons, however the 3 main reasons are:</p><ol start=\"1\" style=\"\"><li><p>Voluntary delisting.</p></li><li><p>Falling below a certain market cap or $1.00 stock price.</p></li><li><p>Accounting issues/missed deadlines.</p></li></ol><p>Reason 3 is exactly why SMCI got delisted, and it tends to be the least common and perhaps most serious due to the internal inefficiencies. NASDAQ generally does have fairly long &#34;grace periods&#34; meaning SMCI failed to comply with the extended NASDAQ deadlines, something which has not happened to a company of SMCI&#39;s size in a long time.</p><h3 id=\"id_37544222\">Fine</h3><p>In 2020, SMCI paid a $17.5 million fine to the SEC for accounting violations in which they neither admitted nor denied the SEC findings. The violations were due to incorrect revenue recognition, understating expenses, and other accounting violations over a period of 3 years.</p><p>Arguably a one-off instance like this would not cause too much panic, but the continuous nature of this raises skepticism.</p><h3 id=\"id_1199563137\">Department of Justice</h3><p>On top of all this negativity, SMCI has an ongoing DoJ (Department of Justice) probe which is looking into accounting violations. DoJ probes are a big deal and are likely to have an overarching effect on the SMCI stock price even if all of all the other unknowns start to become more clear.</p><p>As I mentioned before with the Hindenburg research, we have to take their report with a pinch of salt since they are a short-seller after all. However, an investigation by the DoJ is much more serious and anything that comes up in that investigation will materially affect SMCI&#39;s future.</p><h3 id=\"id_494708400\">BDO Appointment</h3><p>The positive news after all of this is that SMCI managed to appoint BDO (the 5th largest accounting firm) after all of the above incidents, which has to be a win because it gives them hope to at least restore investor confidence, and prepare some financial statements. That&#39;s all the good news I can say about this though.</p><p>The bad news is that BDO isn&#39;t a big 4 company that SMCI would have appointed. BDO also has had poor results over recent years in terms of audit quality. To put it simply, SMCI would not have wanted to appoint an auditor outside of the Big 4. It&#39;s a shame that this is the way it is, but for a company in the S&amp;P 500, Big 4 auditors are by far the most common. Unless there&#39;s a good reason not to appoint a Big 4 auditor, S&amp;P 500 companies simply look a bit more questionable if they don&#39;t have a Big 4 company auditing them.</p><p>The other important thing to note is that even though SMCI has appointed a BDO, initial screening or conversations with EY (previous auditor) have not occurred. This was all disclosed in the 8-K but obviously wasn&#39;t part of the headlines. Simply what is happening is that BDO are the only company to at least consider looking at the SMCI books in the hope that everything is ok, and therefore they potentially have one of the biggest clients on the books.</p><p>In my opinion, realistically, the issues that EY found won&#39;t have been resolved and BDO will also likely find these issues, meaning they&#39;ll not sign off.</p><p>Let me take this even further. A first year audit takes a long time. It includes getting a very solid understanding of the company, the internal controls, previous period&#39;s numbers etc., etc. In my opinion, the entire process likely cannot happen before February 2025, which is when NASDAQ has granted a filing extension until.</p><p>If the BDO does manage to get all this work done, and assuming there&#39;s no issues found (unlikely in my opinion), there is still a chance of secondary reviews by regulators.</p><h2 id=\"id_4231930187\">So is SMCI a buy, sell, or hold?</h2><p>SMCI has performed well the last 3 weeks post appointment of auditor, BDO, plus a short squeeze. Whilst the share price shows some potential signs of recovery, I hope this article made it clear exactly how much risk there still is.</p><p>SMCI still has to get BDO to audit their financials by February without any findings, a potential secondary review, and also get through the DoJ investigation to essentially survive. If any of these come back with material findings, I think there&#39;s a very good chance that SMCI gets delisted, which will, of course, have material consequences for all investors.</p><p>Of course, I may be wrong here, and I may be overly worried about the legitimacy of the financials, but when there&#39;s hundreds and if not thousands of other stocks without any risk of these issues, I don&#39;t see why it&#39;s worth risking an investment into SMCI.</p><p>My overall take is that I&#39;d give it a 50:50 chance as to whether SMCI recovers and, in my opinion, investing in them is much more gambling, rather than data driven, educated, smart investing.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1728464409321","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Super Micro Computer: You're Gambling If You Buy This, Not Investing</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Of course, when we invest, there's always some unknowns and risks to take, but for me here, there's just way too many unknowns, which makes it a very illogical investment.BackgroundSMCI has been on a crazy ride throughout 2024, rising from $28 back in January all the way up to $115 in March, which equates to a 307% increase in 3 months.It then dropped down to $18 by November 15th, erasing 85% of the total market cap. This drop came after Ernst & Young (SMCI's auditor) resigned on October 24th. Ernst & Young cited reasons including:Lack of trust in managementWeak internal controlsLack of board independenceWhen an auditor resigns from auditing a client the size of SMCI it's never a good sign. Auditors spend hours fighting to win over the biggest clients which allows them to rake in the huge audit fees, but when they deem the risk of being associated with a listed client to be far more negative than the huge audit fees they would receive, there's likely something out of the ordinary going on.Here's why SMCI is not worth investing into.If this auditor resignation was a one-off issue, then I'd be inclined to give SMCI the benefit of doubt (though I'd still remain extremely cautious), but unfortunately this negativity around SMCI is not a one-off at all.The past 6 years has seen:NASDAQ delisting$17.5 million fine to SECHindenburg Research (one of the most famous short sellers)Department of Justice probeI'm going to go over each one of these to explain exactly what's happened and my take on them all.NASDAQ delisting - 2018SMCI was temporarily delisted from the NASDAQ stock exchange in August 2018 due to failure to comply with NASDAQ timelines of financial reports. Companies get delisted for many reasons, however the 3 main reasons are:Voluntary delisting.Falling below a certain market cap or $1.00 stock price.Accounting issues/missed deadlines.Reason 3 is exactly why SMCI got delisted, and it tends to be the least common and perhaps most serious due to the internal inefficiencies. NASDAQ generally does have fairly long \"grace periods\" meaning SMCI failed to comply with the extended NASDAQ deadlines, something which has not happened to a company of SMCI's size in a long time.FineIn 2020, SMCI paid a $17.5 million fine to the SEC for accounting violations in which they neither admitted nor denied the SEC findings. The violations were due to incorrect revenue recognition, understating expenses, and other accounting violations over a period of 3 years.Arguably a one-off instance like this would not cause too much panic, but the continuous nature of this raises skepticism.Department of JusticeOn top of all this negativity, SMCI has an ongoing DoJ (Department of Justice) probe which is looking into accounting violations. DoJ probes are a big deal and are likely to have an overarching effect on the SMCI stock price even if all of all the other unknowns start to become more clear.As I mentioned before with the Hindenburg research, we have to take their report with a pinch of salt since they are a short-seller after all. However, an investigation by the DoJ is much more serious and anything that comes up in that investigation will materially affect SMCI's future.BDO AppointmentThe positive news after all of this is that SMCI managed to appoint BDO (the 5th largest accounting firm) after all of the above incidents, which has to be a win because it gives them hope to at least restore investor confidence, and prepare some financial statements. That's all the good news I can say about this though.The bad news is that BDO isn't a big 4 company that SMCI would have appointed. BDO also has had poor results over recent years in terms of audit quality. To put it simply, SMCI would not have wanted to appoint an auditor outside of the Big 4. It's a shame that this is the way it is, but for a company in the S&P 500, Big 4 auditors are by far the most common. Unless there's a good reason not to appoint a Big 4 auditor, S&P 500 companies simply look a bit more questionable if they don't have a Big 4 company auditing them.The other important thing to note is that even though SMCI has appointed a BDO, initial screening or conversations with EY (previous auditor) have not occurred. This was all disclosed in the 8-K but obviously wasn't part of the headlines. Simply what is happening is that BDO are the only company to at least consider looking at the SMCI books in the hope that everything is ok, and therefore they potentially have one of the biggest clients on the books.In my opinion, realistically, the issues that EY found won't have been resolved and BDO will also likely find these issues, meaning they'll not sign off.Let me take this even further. A first year audit takes a long time. It includes getting a very solid understanding of the company, the internal controls, previous period's numbers etc., etc. In my opinion, the entire process likely cannot happen before February 2025, which is when NASDAQ has granted a filing extension until.If the BDO does manage to get all this work done, and assuming there's no issues found (unlikely in my opinion), there is still a chance of secondary reviews by regulators.So is SMCI a buy, sell, or hold?SMCI has performed well the last 3 weeks post appointment of auditor, BDO, plus a short squeeze. Whilst the share price shows some potential signs of recovery, I hope this article made it clear exactly how much risk there still is.SMCI still has to get BDO to audit their financials by February without any findings, a potential secondary review, and also get through the DoJ investigation to essentially survive. If any of these come back with material findings, I think there's a very good chance that SMCI gets delisted, which will, of course, have material consequences for all investors.Of course, I may be wrong here, and I may be overly worried about the legitimacy of the financials, but when there's hundreds and if not thousands of other stocks without any risk of these issues, I don't see why it's worth risking an investment into SMCI.My overall take is that I'd give it a 50:50 chance as to whether SMCI recovers and, in my opinion, investing in them is much more gambling, rather than data driven, educated, smart 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重新迎接辉煌！钢铁侠马斯克","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/316117750997160","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":677,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":221344210239576,"gmtCreate":1695081336788,"gmtModify":1695081338408,"author":{"id":"3558788711643304","authorId":"3558788711643304","name":"Appler","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3558788711643304","idStr":"3558788711643304"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"如果这种分析有用的话，那么这些分析师应该比巴菲特还有钱才对","listText":"如果这种分析有用的话，那么这些分析师应该比巴菲特还有钱才对","text":"如果这种分析有用的话，那么这些分析师应该比巴菲特还有钱才对","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/221344210239576","repostId":"2368438849","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2368438849","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1695068171,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2368438849?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2023-09-19 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tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"438\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>众所周知，那也就是所谓魏玛德国时代，而了解一点历史的人都知道那时代发生了些什么，而美国银行的哈奈特刻意避开了“魏玛”二字，显然也是某种心理阴影使然。</p><p>不过，并不是所有人都那么欲语还休的。1974年，帕尔森（Jens Parsson）就曾经深度研究了魏玛德国的崩溃，出版了经典之作《财富的消亡》（Dying of Money），而布里这次就在社交平台上推荐了这部著作。布里最近在许多问题上都有发言，颇为忙碌，比如他指责Robinhood、看好铀等等，但是他依然要抽出时间来强调这一点，建议大家都了解一下魏玛德国，尤其是其恶性通货膨胀的历史，并且连续发文“盖楼”，显然是有着明确的用意的。以下就是当日时间周日晚间，布里的连续发文。</p><p>“美国政府正在以其带有现代货币理论色彩的政策创造通货膨胀。债务对国内生产总值比率高企，M2货币供应量增长，而零售销售额和采购经理人指数却依然在V形复苏中。数以万亿计的刺激资金，加上经济的重启，都将推动需求猛增，导致劳动力和供应链成本升破天际。”</p><p>接下来，布里连珠炮一样地引述了大量《财富的消亡》原文，有心者不难看出，文中描述的魏玛德国，与今日的美国颇有众多神似。</p><p>“通货膨胀到了成熟阶段，就会形成一场悖论，拥有自己显而易见，绝不会被弄错的各种特质。其中之一就是巨大的财富，至少那些受到青睐的人会暴富。一夜之间，横财从天而降……城市里到处都游荡着漫无目的的，放纵的青年人。”</p><p>“德国价格稳定，企业和股市都一派繁荣。马克对美元和其他货币的汇率一段时间内其实是上扬的，在全球大通胀的前夜，马克甚至曾经短暂居于最强势货币的位置。”</p><p>“与财富比肩而立的，是穷人空空如也的口袋。许多人依然被排斥在宽松货币的圈子之外，他们虽然也希望雨露均沾，但是却不得其门而入。犯罪率在飞涨。”</p><p>“通观整个时代，可以看到大众的心情其实是日趋低落的，他们被推动着一路狂奔，到了喘不上气的地步，却看不到有什么明确的目标，这让他们感到疲惫和厌倦，与此同时，目睹着自己辛辛苦苦爬上的地位正在滑落，而别人却变得暴富，这更让他们感到深深的恐惧。”</p><p>“几乎任何一种企业都能够赚钱，倒闭和破产的案例数量微乎其微。这场繁荣打断了企业正常的物竞天择进程，使得那些本该被淘汰的二三流的，效率低下的企业也得以存活下来。”</p><p>“投机虽然并不能使得德国的总财富有任何的增加，却成为了最活跃的生意之一。几乎每一个阶层都满心狂热，想要加入进去。包括电梯司机在内，每个人都成为了市场玩家。”</p><p>“柏林证券交易所的交易周转率如此之高，以至于金融行业的簿记工作都跟不上了……交易所被迫每周关闭若干天，来处理积压订单。”</p><p>“1922年夏季，世界上全部流通的马克大约有1900亿，而到了1923年11月，1900亿马克已经不够购买一份报纸或者一张电车票了。这是总崩溃看上去最惊人的部分，不过金钱财富损失的主体，发生的时间其实还要早得多。”</p><p>“这些年来，整个结构一直在静静地向着总崩溃的方向自我建构。德国的通货膨胀周期不是持续了一年，而是整整九年，前面八年都是酝酿，只有一年是总崩溃。”</p><p>布里的结论是，美国的2010年到2021年，也完全可能是同样的“酝酿期”，余下的问题只是：总崩溃何时来到？</p>","source":"txmg","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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Eveillard共同被评为晨星公司的年度国际基金经理。2006年，他再次获得了该奖项的亚军。其导师Eveillard也表示了对沃克斯的缅怀：我会永远怀念这个1987年在SoGen基金需要支持时，一直帮助我的实习生。沃克斯之后在First Eagle Funds的工作也一如既往。First Eagle Fund的官网也表达了对沃克斯的致敬，他们表示：沃克斯在投资管理行业，和在那些与他合作过的人身上，留下了不可磨灭的印记。他也是First Eagle Fund价值团队的主要贡献者。晨星公司的高级分析师Gregg Wolper如此形容沃克斯：他践行着自下而上的投资策略，他对公司进行深入的研究，并对这些公司的价值热情辩护。全球积累了十分高企的债务水平，无论是公司还是个人，而这些困扰着他。另外，市场上公司的估值都很高，使得沃克斯这一价值投资者在股市疯狂上涨时仍坚持持有现金。他之所以坚持这点，并不是因为他固执。而是他认为，这是保护股东们免受亏损的最佳投资方式。这是他在行使他的义务。但正是这些理念，令他赢得了业界的尊重。GoodHaven资本的基金经理Larry Pitkowsky也称：Valux是一位有思想、有才华、纪律严明、规避风险的投资者，他同时也是众多资产管理公司的朋友。“沃克斯纵身一跃，归于自己的宿命，但价值已开始回归”，巴伦周刊如此写到。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1202,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}