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你受得了么
2022-04-09
$蔚来(NIO)$
都不容易
你受得了么
2022-03-04
“一个大一点的充电站都有30跟枪”,真的是一本正经的胡说八道
@forcec:
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来的四宗罪与一个机会。 闲来无聊,继续说蔚来,没办法,它的关注度最高。我关注美股是因为蔚来,时至今日仍然每天关注蔚来。我不是蔚来的天然黑,曾经最看好它,如今却最不看好。 先说蔚来的五宗罪: 第一宗罪:换电。很多人吹嘘蔚来的核心优势是换电,在我看来换电正是蔚来的灭顶之灾。换电可以说一无是处。补能是一个体系,蔚来鼓吹的换一次电只需要5分钟,但是别忘了,换电是单任务系统,我们在考虑谁更优时,不是看一台车,是看一堆车。超充技术就算做不到10分钟充满电,现在轻松30分钟也补够了,而蔚来的换电全程要接近10分钟,比换电快吗?没意义。假如有60台车要充电,换电10分钟一台,充电30分钟一台,一个大一点的充电站都有30跟枪,那么一个充电站把100台车补满电只需要一个小时,而一个换电站把60台车换完需要10个小时。一个充电站的效率是换电站的10倍。有人也许会说:又不是只有一个换电站,没错,就算一个城市有十个换电站,也基本只相当于一个充电站的补能效率。更何况,你去另一个换电站路上不耽误时间吗?蔚来换电站的选址极其苛刻,一个城市可供建设换电站的地方很少,尤其主城区。而充电站全城市以后不知道有多少,不是一个量级。 换电完全没有优势吗?有的,在车辆还非常不普及的前提下,只要不排队,貌似是有优势的。仅此而已。考虑到换电站不像充电随时附近都有,那么算上你开车去换电站的时间,这点优势好像有点模糊? 如果换电只是个笑话,那也还好,毕竟可以去充电嘛。但是换电第一是成本高昂,为了那华而不实的东西,一个换电站的建设成本轻松超过一个大型充电站,而且养一堆人,蔚来为此付出高昂成本。第二个问题是:换电结构极大制约车身设计,不仅影响内部空间,也与当前车身电池一体化趋势违背。第三是蔚来因换电建设
你受得了么
2021-10-27
踏踏实实造车的企业直接逆向汉兰达底盘,踏踏实实造车的企业动辄说自己研发好400kw的充电技术后再做纯电,结果隔壁小鹏闷声不响的拿出480kw。 大佬看问题的角度果然独到
$蔚来(NIO)$
@中概真菜:
$蔚来(NIO)$
都说了蔚来没未来,新势力中只有理想踏踏实实造车,
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
小鹏科技日简直就是在搞笑,飞行汽车可能吗?现实嘛?偷特斯拉技术还死不承认,最后要打官司才和解,蔚来也不说了,钱都砸服务上了,天天做虚头巴脑的事!就理想
$理想汽车(LI)$
在好好造车,还造的增程式,跟特斯拉比,你们真不配!
你受得了么
2021-10-13
$蔚来(NIO)$
真心要感谢友商,时刻督促着nio要合理化运营。
你受得了么
2021-08-12
这年头,谁都能写新闻稿了
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你受得了么
2021-05-24
特斯拉上海工厂品控和细节有办法保证 江淮蔚来工厂品控和细节没有办法保证
@杯水一站:突然发现了一个我认为很有趣的事。蔚来汽车是三个造车新势力中唯一一个没有自己的工厂的公司。他的汽车是通过江淮汽车代工。也许喜欢蔚来的人会说这样不是更好吗?轻资产。可是汽车不是手机啊?当自己不拥有工厂的时候品控和细节是没有办法保证的。当江淮自己的产品和蔚来的产品在一些原料出现争议的时候。江淮是先保障蔚来产品,还是自己的呢?同时生产效率也是没有办法保证的。不要说苹果的例子,苹果对供应链的把控世界第一甚至超过了丰田。如果任何一家公司对供应链的把控能接近苹果,那么这家公司任何事情或生意都可以做了。非常有趣,并且蔚来是市值最高的一家。也许他是市场推广做的最好的一家吧。
你受得了么
2021-02-01
这次怎么蔚来app和微博都没发,老虎这先有交付量了?
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你受得了么
2021-01-11
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@小印_3829
:特斯拉的model s plaid不叫ppt,roadster2不叫PPT,20年电池日上的4680电池也不叫PPT。蔚来是PPT
//
@小印_3829
:交付了7万多台车,均价40万以上,是ppt造车?
@很是看好:$蔚来(NIO)$ PPT造车,开盘拭目以待。贾跃亭的影子已经看到了。盘前找写手,加庄家疯狂拉高出货!!!这些垃圾企业。不干活就吹牛逼!!!
你受得了么
2020-12-30
理想要成为中国的苹果? Are you kidding me?😓//
@贝氪曼
:
$蔚来(NIO)$
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
蔚来想要击败的对手是BBA,小鹏则想在世界舞台对抗特斯拉,而理想所追求的,是成为中国的苹果。格局不同,发展策略也不一样。
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你受得了么
2020-11-25
$蔚来(NIO)$
某生而成熟的车企表示,纯属巧合😄
你受得了么
2020-11-03
$蔚来(NIO)$
论颠倒黑白,只服理想
你受得了么
2020-08-31
$蔚来(NIO)$
成都会上骂一骂不过瘾,还得继续发条朋友圈吐槽吐槽。我真的是好奇,到底是哪个水军头子买水军,习惯性拉踩友商,对着友商捅刀子,控评控热度赛高?真真是Amzaing
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