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看地老农
06-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
大饼越画越大
看地老农
05-12
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
马斯克真是操控股市高手,来中国一趟。什么都没有发个假消息,就暴涨一天,结果继续跌跌不休。
看地老农
04-29
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
特斯拉太**了
看地老农
2023-11-22
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
自动驾驶就是一个骗局,靠运算就是假的,自动驾驶要像人一样思考。人类还作不到
看地老农
2023-11-22
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
特斯拉就是画大饼高手
看地老农
2023-11-19
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来真的要破产了
看地老农
2023-11-14
$宁德时代(300750)$
这个垃圾企业不吹牛逼了吧,在国内排名第一的时代没有了,排在比亚迪后面了吧,比亚迪排名27,宁王只是第39位,不老老实实的造电池,就是天天的吹牛逼。这下看你拿什么吹牛逼
看地老农
2023-11-11
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
特斯拉在比亚迪的加持下,如果比亚迪在打价格战,特斯拉就成杂牌车了
看地老农
2023-08-28
$上证指数(000001.SH)$
只要社保基金在股市中中国股市就没有上涨空间
看地老农
2023-08-28
$VinFast Auto(VFS)$
一辆车都造不出来,这就是美国股市的笑话。天天说美国股市看业绩,这样的垃圾企业,居然成为好股票
看地老农
2023-08-07
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
这破车还是离不开中国企业,就是一个组装厂还天天的吹牛逼
看地老农
2023-06-06
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来没有未来,就是垃圾企业,大家买的是车不是手机,花大几十万就买了个平板。造车第一差,悬架差,操控差,三电差,就没有一点可取的
看地老农
2023-03-20
蔚来又不是体制内的企业,拿编制说是,李斌把自己当国企了吗?可笑,太可笑了
蔚来公布实习生事件调查报告:因无编制未留用
看地老农
2023-02-09
$蔚来(NIO)$
比亚迪一年在德国卖了50多辆,特斯拉卖了4000多辆都不向蔚来这么吹牛逼
看地老农
2023-02-09
$蔚来(NIO)$
在德国就买一辆车还吹
看地老农
2021-10-05
全是假的,业绩越好,股价越跌
看地老农
2020-05-20
$蔚来(NIO)$
三块来钱的价格没有希望。
看地老农
2020-04-03
$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$
靠,还有买的。牛大了!!!?
看地老农
2020-03-27
$道琼斯(.DJI)$
美联储瞎菜,小特急了也不好使。与中国通了电话,同样挽救不了经济的下行压力。经济的衰退,失业率的创新高。都会加速股市的转熊来了!
看地老农
2020-03-09
胡说八道
针锋相对,700 km 续航卡位战
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同一批上工信部「目录」的还有国产长续航 Model 3。在特斯拉上海工厂建设初期,Elon Musk 在推特上表态,该工厂只生产基础版的 Model 3,也就是标准续航升级版 Model 3。我们曾经在得知了特斯拉上海工厂的产能目标之后,认定特斯拉一定会国产长续航版本的 Model 3,但是预期的时间是在在消化完了标准续航版车型的需求之后,也就是 2020 年下半年往后。显然特斯拉上海工厂推进的速度比我们想象得更快。国产长续航升级版 Model 3 采用的是由南京 LG 化学提供的 2170 电芯,工信部实测工况续航为 668 km,相比进口版车型的 664 km 长了 4 km,并没有任何缩水。在我们让大家猜价格微博的评论区中,除了一大波喊「等等党大获全胜」的吃(qian)瓜(zai)群(gu)众(ke)以外,大家希望国产长续航后驱版 Model 3 的售价在 33.99-36.8 万之间。这意味着小鹏 P7 的售价区间与国产长续航 Model 3 大面积重合,单从小鹏 P7 目前已经曝光的技术信息来看,产品力并不弱,不过可惜的是在相同的售价范围区间里撞上了车型定位相同的 Model 3。何小鹏在面对「汽车商业评论」的采访时表示,「我注重两个:第一个是全球化,第二个是差异化。中国汽车到了后面,如果不能品牌上行,就没有毛利,没有毛利就不会有研发,没有研发就不会有差异化,这是一个正向的循环。所以越是打性价比(牌),一定不会有差异化,你不能有差异,你怎么能做到真正的强?」显然小鹏 P7 是小鹏汽车品牌开始向上的一款车型,从各项参数上来看,也可以证明 P7 是小鹏汽车花了很大心思的一款车型,只是生不逢时,恰巧碰上了国产 Model 3。从目前来看小鹏 P7 在三电方面和辅助驾驶两块,相比国内其他品牌车型确实做到何小鹏口中的差异化,但和特斯拉相比,在三电、辅助驾驶这两个核心能力上并没有展现出足够的差异化,而价格也是针锋相对。至于小鹏在内饰氛围、做工细节等特斯拉处于劣势的地方发挥如何我们等 4 月车辆正式上市之后再为大家带了实拍。而消费者是否为小鹏 P7 的差异化买单,我们等待市场给出的答案。最有意思的是,小鹏 P7 预计今年 4 月正式发布,6 月开始交付,而这个时间点,也是国产长续航后驱版 Model 3 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