+关注
不三不四xixi
暂无个人介绍
IP属地:未知
20
关注
0
粉丝
0
主题
0
勋章
主贴
热门
不三不四xixi
2019-02-25
这篇文章不错,转发给大家看
@李先森:浅谈ETF损耗及反向做空可取性讨论
去老虎APP查看更多动态
{"i18n":{"language":"zh_CN"},"userPageInfo":{"id":"3503664164927010","uuid":"3503664164927010","gmtCreate":1544432074278,"gmtModify":1544432074278,"name":"不三不四xixi","pinyin":"bsbsxixibusanbusixixi","introduction":"","introductionEn":null,"signature":"","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","hat":null,"hatId":null,"hatName":null,"vip":1,"status":2,"fanSize":0,"headSize":20,"tweetSize":1,"questionSize":0,"limitLevel":999,"accountStatus":4,"level":{"id":1,"name":"萌萌虎","nameTw":"萌萌虎","represent":"呱呱坠地","factor":"评论帖子3次或发布1条主帖(非转发)","iconColor":"3C9E83","bgColor":"A2F1D9"},"themeCounts":0,"badgeCounts":0,"badges":[],"moderator":false,"superModerator":false,"manageSymbols":null,"badgeLevel":null,"boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"favoriteSize":1,"symbols":null,"coverImage":null,"realNameVerified":null,"userBadges":[{"badgeId":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a-1","templateUuid":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a","name":"实盘交易者","description":"完成一笔实盘交易","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e08a1cc2087a1de93402c2c290fa65b","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4504a6397ce1137932d56e5f4ce27166","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4b22c79415b4cd6e3d8ebc4a0fa32604","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100},{"badgeId":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969-1","templateUuid":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969","name":"精英交易员","description":"证券或期货账户累计交易次数达到30次","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ab0f87127c854ce3191a752d57b46edc","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9835ce48b8c8743566d344ac7a7ba8c","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76754b53ce7a90019f132c1d2fbc698f","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":"60.81%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100},{"badgeId":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561-2","templateUuid":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561","name":"资深虎友","description":"加入老虎社区1000天","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0063fb68ea29c9ae6858c58630e182d5","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96c699a93be4214d4b49aea6a5a5d1a4","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/35b0e542a9ff77046ed69ef602bc105d","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.19","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1001}],"userBadgeCount":3,"currentWearingBadge":null,"individualDisplayBadges":null,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"location":"未知","starInvestorFollowerNum":0,"starInvestorFlag":false,"starInvestorOrderShareNum":0,"subscribeStarInvestorNum":0,"ror":null,"winRationPercentage":null,"showRor":false,"investmentPhilosophy":null,"starInvestorSubscribeFlag":false},"baikeInfo":{},"tab":"post","tweets":[{"id":407946,"gmtCreate":1551095924489,"gmtModify":1704790461952,"author":{"id":"3503664164927010","authorId":"3503664164927010","name":"不三不四xixi","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3503664164927010","authorIdStr":"3503664164927010"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/407946","repostId":"407142","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":407142,"gmtCreate":1550937413035,"gmtModify":1704790355958,"author":{"id":"265970164858683","authorId":"265970164858683","name":"李先森","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9dacf2a1357b8a143a9fa45bfd2492a5","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"265970164858683","authorIdStr":"265970164858683"},"themes":[],"title":"浅谈ETF损耗及反向做空可取性讨论","htmlText":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","listText":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","text":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67bd46e6910fc93dcfa92afc70222a52"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e02f845253219a772ee6a5296ccbcd5b"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c01eb67ef248f59412c0d1a5c8da54ec"}],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":2,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/407142","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":3,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1083,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":407946,"gmtCreate":1551095924489,"gmtModify":1704790461952,"author":{"id":"3503664164927010","authorId":"3503664164927010","name":"不三不四xixi","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3503664164927010","authorIdStr":"3503664164927010"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/407946","repostId":"407142","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":407142,"gmtCreate":1550937413035,"gmtModify":1704790355958,"author":{"id":"265970164858683","authorId":"265970164858683","name":"李先森","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9dacf2a1357b8a143a9fa45bfd2492a5","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"265970164858683","authorIdStr":"265970164858683"},"themes":[],"title":"浅谈ETF损耗及反向做空可取性讨论","htmlText":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","listText":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","text":"$三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ $道指三倍做空ETF-ProShares(SDOW)$ $纳指三倍做多ETF(TQQQ)$ $三倍做空原油ETN(DWT)$ $纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$ $三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ $三倍做多天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(UGAZ)$ $三倍做多原油ETN(UWT)$ 幼年坊间有一善赌者,几乎逢赌必赢,每次赢钱都让我倒茶添水与他且开心赏我些钱;曾欲学赌技于他,他给我两个杯子,其中一个倒满水,让我花一上午时间不停的互相倒而不要洒出来,近中午时居然只剩半杯水,他说这就是十赌九输的道理,听的似懂非懂,我想这也许就是最原始的损耗道理吧。 损耗到底有多大,我们来拿近年天然气的走势图和三倍最多天然气的趋势做一个对比: 由上图可以看到天然气的波动区间是六元以下,而三倍做多天然气的复权跌幅达万倍。 那么这个损耗究竟是怎么来的呢,我通过做了近三年的ETF,觉得有如下三点: 一:来自于杠杆ETF、ETN的震荡损耗 假设VIX指数目前为100点,如果其第一天上涨10%,但紧接着第二天下跌10%,那么第二天VIX的收盘表现应是下跌1% 100+100*10%=110 110﹣110*10%=99 而带有三倍杠杆的ETF则变为下跌9% 100+100*30%=120 130﹣130*30%=91 从这个例子中大家应该可以看到,根据基本的数学原理,目标指数虽然仅下跌1%,但三倍的ETF却并没有下跌3%,而是下跌敢达9%,这之间差出的6%则被称为该杠杆ETF的自身损耗。这一损耗是ETF最基本的震荡损耗,不受其他外界因素而自带的损耗。 二:贴水损耗 贴水损耗是一种隐含的损耗,由于无法如震荡损耗般浅显易懂,常常被忽略。但却会在不经意间使得投资人的损失严重。 由于期货远期合约价格高于近期合约价格,","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67bd46e6910fc93dcfa92afc70222a52"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e02f845253219a772ee6a5296ccbcd5b"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c01eb67ef248f59412c0d1a5c8da54ec"}],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":2,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/407142","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":3,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1083,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}