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雷布斯99亿
2019-11-17
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小米投资收益“大丰收”机构仍不改做空态度
雷布斯99亿
2019-11-09
$小米集团-W(01810)$
林斌看的准
雷布斯99亿
2019-10-26
$小米集团-W(01810)$
明天必然跌2个点起,就像小米财报每次都会跌5个点起步一样,散户命中就是韭菜
雷布斯99亿
2019-10-18
$小米集团-W(01810)$
小米暗盘报价8.28,坐稳了,有爆炸性不好消息即将爆出
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-30
$小米集团-W(01810)$
雷军说过顺势而为,如今所有机构都在空,还有什么理由不跌?
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-30
$小米集团-W(01810)$
去年十一前16 十一后跌倒13,今年十一后跌到7没问题
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-30
$小米集团-W(01810)$
上周卖房的款到手了,全部压上,沽空小米到7,希望能换别墅[龇牙]
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-22
$小米集团-W(01810)$
预言家又来了,下周预计跌倒8.5,雷军被迫放弃回购
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-17
$小米集团-W(01810)$
明天会继续跌到8.7左右,机构继续洗盘
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-16
$小米集团-W(01810)$
明天肯定继续跌,机构洗盘需要3-5天以上
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-15
$小米集团-W(01810)$
周一应该会跌,机构洗盘
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-13
$小米集团-W(01810)$
120亿回购还没出手,港股通还没进,短期内看涨到12,和基本面无关。
雷布斯99亿
2019-09-02
$小米集团-W(01810)$
准备卖房做空
雷布斯99亿
2019-08-27
$小米集团-W(01810)$
#林斌回应套现4亿# 林斌连续三天套现,看看小米员工咋说的(来源于知乎,侵删)
雷布斯99亿
2019-08-26
$小米集团-W(01810)$
,港交所披露易显示,小米集团(01810.HK)公司总裁林斌连续三日卖出小米股份,8月21日以9.0731港元卖出2670万股公司股票;8月22日卖出555.96万股,8月23日卖出904.76万股,三日共计卖出4130.72万股。
雷布斯99亿
2019-08-15
$小米集团-W(01810)$
又增发了800w股??
雷布斯99亿
2019-08-02
$小米集团-W(01810)$
★★沪深港交易所就不同投票权架构公司纳入港股通条件达成共识并启动相关规则修订。
雷布斯99亿
2019-07-30
$小米集团-W(01810)$
8.20号小米正式加入港股通
雷布斯99亿
2019-07-22
$小米集团-W(01810)$
500强雷军光吹牛逼了,没见股价起来
雷布斯99亿
2019-07-19
$小米集团-W(01810)$
股价都跌成啥样了,还增发,雷军我问候你全家[默哀] [默哀] [默哀]
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从小米投资的已收获或即将收获回报的项目来看,《红周刊》记者据公开资料不完全统计,小米集团投资公司包括投资后上市的公司、上市后入股的公司、递交上市申请书的公司及传拟上市的公司,目前共21家。其中,投资后上市的有10家,包括<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/IQ\">爱奇艺</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TIGR\">老虎证券</a>、华米和云米这4家小米联营公司;被传拟上市的公司1家,即一点资讯,据悉正在为登陆国内资本市场做准备。 </p>\n<p> 对上述公司的投资,预计会为小米带来逾百亿元的账面收益。以小米持股占比较高的爱奇艺为例,据记者测算,小米在爱奇艺上市前透过Xiaomi Ventures Limited(小米创投)投入了大约2.49亿美元,目前对应市值约为9.6亿美元,浮盈7.1亿美元,获得2.85倍回报。又如,小米投资生态链企业<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HMI\">华米科技</a>,初始投资约1971.7万美元,目前对应市值约3.75亿美元,5年收获18倍回报。 </p>\n<p> 总体来看,仅小米投资后上市的和正在递交上市申请书的项目,预计就会为小米带来逾百亿元的浮盈。 </p>\n<p> 小米在投资方面的成功经验,也吸引一些机构跟踪和关注。天津清研陆石投资合伙人宁星之向《红周刊》记者表示,小米集团关注的半导体芯片企业与他们所投资的领域形成了交叉,“他们投资的企业我们也会关注,也在研究,还有一家是顺为资本。” </p>\n<p> 不过,小米在二级市场的投资则有好有坏。目前可追溯的有对<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XNET\">迅雷</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/VNET\">世纪互联</a>、<span><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300315\">掌趣科技</a></span><span></span>、美的及<span><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000100\">TCL集团</a></span><span></span>的投资,其中小米对美的的投资最为成功:四年前小米与美的互相战略投资,但在小米上市后,美的投资小米浮亏近5亿元;而小米投资美的获得了近24亿元的浮盈。但小米对迅雷、世纪互联和掌趣科技的投资却出现了不同程度的亏损。</p>\n<p> 庞大投资收益难消市场做空热情 </p>\n<p> 目前,小米的投资体现在财务报表上,主要分为两种:第一种是“按权益法入账之联营公司投资(上市/非上市)”,例如对迅雷、爱奇艺等持股比在20%-50%,或实际上具有重大影响的公司;第二种是“按公允价值计入损益之长期投资”,后者根据入股性质不同细分为权益投资(上市/非上市)、优先股投资,例如对世纪互联、美的等失去重大影响或本就没有重大影响的公司计入长期投资中的权益投资,对大多数早期阶段的生态链企业投资则属于长期投资中的优先股投资。 </p>\n<p> 根据财报,2018年小米按权益法入账的投资出现激增,由2017年的17.1亿元增至86.39亿元,其中上市实体增幅较大,由上一年3.86亿元增至61.99亿元。到2019年中时,以上数据再度变化,仅年中按权益法入账之投资已经达到去年全年的1.09倍。此类投资的增加与几个持股比例较高的联营公司上市有关,这与小米将其重新分类为按权益法入账投资有关,随着小米持股占比较大的公司陆续上市,未来有可能带动该项目下的数额继续增长。比较而言,小米的长期投资部分绝对数额较大,但变化幅度不大,如2018年时小米长期投资中的权益投资、优先股投资分别为76.3亿元、110.06亿元,至2019年中分别为81.29亿元、110.66亿元,这与非上市公司股权估值有关,因为非上市企业股权流动性不高,估值短期内不会出现巨大变化。 </p>\n<p> 需要注意的是,与小米按公允价值计入损益之长期投资不同,小米对按权益法入账之联营公司投资不体现公允价值变动,如前述公司由非公开市场转向上市出现的账面浮盈会成为“隐藏利润”,可能在未来进行释放,而在第一季度、第二季度,小米就已分别释放出了5.9亿元、5.5亿元的投资净收益。 </p>\n<p> 这是一本看似可以持续的投资收益账,但有职业投资人向《红周刊》记者表示,“在智能手机业务下滑的情况下,小米选择展示投资业绩,对于智能手机业务增长乏力,在国内暴跌基本不提。我预测之后财报的亮点是家电和投资业绩,但这不妨碍我继续做空小米。小米不是一家投资公司,投资不是它的主业。” </p>\n<p> 该人士指出,小米做空的动力一直很足,这也是小米集团股价难以上行的原因。另外从产业链端消息来看,今年接下来传出的消息仍然对小米不利。Wind数据显示,在进入今年下半年以来,做空小米的力量空前高涨,未平仓卖空期末金额以周计算平均在百万亿港元,已处于小米上市以来高位。 </p>\n<p> “我们现在有个指标要跟踪,红米Note8系列在海外什么时候接班Note7,如果没有续上,预期不会太好。”前述投资人表示。IDC在11月7日、11月11日及11月12日依次发布全球、印度和中国智能手机市场数据,而在此期间(11.07-11.12),小米股价一直呈现下跌态势,跌幅达2.8%。在IDC公布的数据中,仅印度市场小米的出货量是增长的,但市场份额较去年下跌0.1个百分点,该市场小米的主力机型为Redmi 7A和Redmi Note 7;在全球市场小米的出货量同比下降3.3%,市场份额较去年下跌0.4个百分点(<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SMSN.UK\">三星</a>/华为/OPPO三家却出现双增);在国内市场份额方面,小米出货量暴跌30.5%市场份额同比下降3.8%(华为、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>双双出现增长)。 </p>\n<p> 不止职业投资人士如此看小米,券商也是如此。据记者了解,目前仅<span><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600837\">海通证券</a></span><span></span>一家对小米独辟投资业务估值。■</p>\n<p> (本文发表于11月16日《红周刊》)</p>\n<p>责任编辑:张恒星 SF142</p>\n</div></body></html>","source":"sina","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta 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对于见智研究院的“看空”,有观点认为,不应该忽视小米投资业务。据记者了解,小米在今年一季度起开始披露投资业务业绩情况,且表现不俗。小米中报显示,小米投资超过270家公司,账面价值287亿元,同比增长20.8%;第二季度处置投资税后净收益为5.5亿元,而当季小米的经调整后净利润为36.35亿元,投资收益约为经调整后净利润的15.18%。 不过,有投资人在接受《红周刊》记者采访时表示,小米主营业务不是投资,考虑小米主业萎靡不振,他认为做空小米的力量不太会因其投资收益增长而削减。\n\n 小米投资浮盈逾百亿元 \n 小米集团的投资属性与雷军密切相关,雷军在小米创始人身份以外还是顺为资本创始人。据IT桔子数据,小米集团过往投资了大约219家公司,顺为资本投资了大约413家,其中有95个项目是由小米集团、顺为资本合投完成的。 \n 从小米投资的已收获或即将收获回报的项目来看,《红周刊》记者据公开资料不完全统计,小米集团投资公司包括投资后上市的公司、上市后入股的公司、递交上市申请书的公司及传拟上市的公司,目前共21家。其中,投资后上市的有10家,包括爱奇艺、老虎证券、华米和云米这4家小米联营公司;被传拟上市的公司1家,即一点资讯,据悉正在为登陆国内资本市场做准备。 \n 对上述公司的投资,预计会为小米带来逾百亿元的账面收益。以小米持股占比较高的爱奇艺为例,据记者测算,小米在爱奇艺上市前透过Xiaomi Ventures Limited(小米创投)投入了大约2.49亿美元,目前对应市值约为9.6亿美元,浮盈7.1亿美元,获得2.85倍回报。又如,小米投资生态链企业华米科技,初始投资约1971.7万美元,目前对应市值约3.75亿美元,5年收获18倍回报。 \n 总体来看,仅小米投资后上市的和正在递交上市申请书的项目,预计就会为小米带来逾百亿元的浮盈。 \n 小米在投资方面的成功经验,也吸引一些机构跟踪和关注。天津清研陆石投资合伙人宁星之向《红周刊》记者表示,小米集团关注的半导体芯片企业与他们所投资的领域形成了交叉,“他们投资的企业我们也会关注,也在研究,还有一家是顺为资本。” \n 不过,小米在二级市场的投资则有好有坏。目前可追溯的有对迅雷、世纪互联、掌趣科技、美的及TCL集团的投资,其中小米对美的的投资最为成功:四年前小米与美的互相战略投资,但在小米上市后,美的投资小米浮亏近5亿元;而小米投资美的获得了近24亿元的浮盈。但小米对迅雷、世纪互联和掌趣科技的投资却出现了不同程度的亏损。\n 庞大投资收益难消市场做空热情 \n 目前,小米的投资体现在财务报表上,主要分为两种:第一种是“按权益法入账之联营公司投资(上市/非上市)”,例如对迅雷、爱奇艺等持股比在20%-50%,或实际上具有重大影响的公司;第二种是“按公允价值计入损益之长期投资”,后者根据入股性质不同细分为权益投资(上市/非上市)、优先股投资,例如对世纪互联、美的等失去重大影响或本就没有重大影响的公司计入长期投资中的权益投资,对大多数早期阶段的生态链企业投资则属于长期投资中的优先股投资。 \n 根据财报,2018年小米按权益法入账的投资出现激增,由2017年的17.1亿元增至86.39亿元,其中上市实体增幅较大,由上一年3.86亿元增至61.99亿元。到2019年中时,以上数据再度变化,仅年中按权益法入账之投资已经达到去年全年的1.09倍。此类投资的增加与几个持股比例较高的联营公司上市有关,这与小米将其重新分类为按权益法入账投资有关,随着小米持股占比较大的公司陆续上市,未来有可能带动该项目下的数额继续增长。比较而言,小米的长期投资部分绝对数额较大,但变化幅度不大,如2018年时小米长期投资中的权益投资、优先股投资分别为76.3亿元、110.06亿元,至2019年中分别为81.29亿元、110.66亿元,这与非上市公司股权估值有关,因为非上市企业股权流动性不高,估值短期内不会出现巨大变化。 \n 需要注意的是,与小米按公允价值计入损益之长期投资不同,小米对按权益法入账之联营公司投资不体现公允价值变动,如前述公司由非公开市场转向上市出现的账面浮盈会成为“隐藏利润”,可能在未来进行释放,而在第一季度、第二季度,小米就已分别释放出了5.9亿元、5.5亿元的投资净收益。 \n 这是一本看似可以持续的投资收益账,但有职业投资人向《红周刊》记者表示,“在智能手机业务下滑的情况下,小米选择展示投资业绩,对于智能手机业务增长乏力,在国内暴跌基本不提。我预测之后财报的亮点是家电和投资业绩,但这不妨碍我继续做空小米。小米不是一家投资公司,投资不是它的主业。” \n 该人士指出,小米做空的动力一直很足,这也是小米集团股价难以上行的原因。另外从产业链端消息来看,今年接下来传出的消息仍然对小米不利。Wind数据显示,在进入今年下半年以来,做空小米的力量空前高涨,未平仓卖空期末金额以周计算平均在百万亿港元,已处于小米上市以来高位。 \n “我们现在有个指标要跟踪,红米Note8系列在海外什么时候接班Note7,如果没有续上,预期不会太好。”前述投资人表示。IDC在11月7日、11月11日及11月12日依次发布全球、印度和中国智能手机市场数据,而在此期间(11.07-11.12),小米股价一直呈现下跌态势,跌幅达2.8%。在IDC公布的数据中,仅印度市场小米的出货量是增长的,但市场份额较去年下跌0.1个百分点,该市场小米的主力机型为Redmi 7A和Redmi Note 7;在全球市场小米的出货量同比下降3.3%,市场份额较去年下跌0.4个百分点(三星/华为/OPPO三家却出现双增);在国内市场份额方面,小米出货量暴跌30.5%市场份额同比下降3.8%(华为、苹果双双出现增长)。 \n 不止职业投资人士如此看小米,券商也是如此。据记者了解,目前仅海通证券一家对小米独辟投资业务估值。■\n (本文发表于11月16日《红周刊》)\n责任编辑:张恒星 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