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氧化锆
2019-06-24
$蔚来(NIO)$ 回来看看蔚来…我记得我在5块的时候说,蔚来不赚钱,产品又不稳定,盈利模式又不清晰,电动车补贴退坡,现金流紧张,肯定跌。一大堆人说我傻,说我说一堆没营养的话,就我这水平还分析来分析去之类的。后来我买了看跌期权,爽爽的赚了一笔。 现在腰斩变成2.5块了。不知道当初喷我的人,应该是多头吧,作何感想[鬼脸][鬼脸][鬼脸]
氧化锆
2019-06-24
又多了100亿市值……
@氧化锆:$微软(MSFT)$ 有些人总觉得高了就得跌。但其实高了可以更高。确实微软已经1.05w亿市值了,问题是人家市盈才30!而且美股财务没有那么多造假,30就是实实在在的30。谷歌28,facebook 28,亚马逊80。1.05w亿市值,高吗?真高!30倍市盈,贵吗?不贵!
氧化锆
2019-06-21
$微软(MSFT)$ 有些人总觉得高了就得跌。但其实高了可以更高。确实微软已经1.05w亿市值了,问题是人家市盈才30!而且美股财务没有那么多造假,30就是实实在在的30。谷歌28,facebook 28,亚马逊80。1.05w亿市值,高吗?真高!30倍市盈,贵吗?不贵!
氧化锆
2019-06-10
$AMD(AMD)$ 吓尿了……
氧化锆
2019-06-08
$微软(MSFT)$ 纳斯达克估值还是比较适中的。整体市场风险不大,加上降息预期,上升还是大概率。微软成立44年了,现在估值29倍,不贵,纳德拉做的挺好的
氧化锆
2019-06-07
$微软(MSFT)$ 显摆~
氧化锆
2019-06-07
$微软(MSFT)$ 真牛,纳德拉救了微软。
氧化锆
2019-06-06
$蔚来(NIO)$ 别抄底了。 今天要讲一个非常有趣的话题——追涨杀跌,对不对? 你们大概都听说过很多媒体批评说,散户追涨杀跌不理性,造成了市场的过度波动。其实,这是不懂金融学的人说的话。这么多年以来,学术圈已经有无数的学术论文给了实证证据——散户根本没有在“追涨杀跌”,一般都是在“追跌杀涨”。 你想一想看,你身边的大妈大伯是不是股票下跌了就赶紧去抄底,然后抄一手“血”?股票上涨了以后反而坐立不安,老想着要落袋为安?比如说茅台或者腾讯,周围有多少人买了,但是中途全都抛了呢?这就是典型的“追跌杀涨”。 你可能会问,散户大多在“追跌杀涨”,那谁在“追涨杀跌”呢?是聪明的机构们。 实际上在过去的几十年里,机构最赚钱的策略就是“追涨杀跌”。它有一个好听的名字,叫“动量交易”。在资产定价中,它还是一个著名的定价因子。
氧化锆
2019-06-03
$蔚来(NIO)$ 看跌期权,平了,买钻戒求婚去。今天看到两辆蔚来汽车,还挺炫酷的,可惜经营模式还是被质疑。成本这么高,怎么赚钱?要是想走互联网路线,又是高端车,量摆在这。唉。
氧化锆
2019-06-03
$百度(BIDU)$ 百度的搜索真的是太烂了。一个搜索,5个广告,剩下全是垃圾信息。
氧化锆
2019-05-31
$蔚来(NIO)$ 我觉得好奇怪,做的的人,看到NIO这个架势,又不想割,为啥不买点看跌期权对冲一下风险呢?大概也就花个5%的权利金而已。
氧化锆
2019-05-30
发财报之前每天跌5个点,发财报之后每天跌10个。 其实我之前分析过财报。就一句话,蔚来卖车究竟赚不赚钱?
氧化锆
2019-05-24
分析一下之前的财报
$蔚来(NIO)$ 仔细看一下财报,会发现这么几个问题: 先不管研发费管理费之类的 18年Q3开始交付: Q3销售收入14亿,销售成本15亿。 Q4销售收入34亿,销售成本34亿。销售8000量车。 很多钱花在了营销和市场推广上。那19年Q1,销售4000量车。但是已经租的店面,该做的营销啥的,总不能关了和不做了吧?那这样Q1销售收入预计15亿,销售成本肯定超过收入了啊。 合着卖车压根没赚钱,都用来做活动和交房租?然后卖的车还减少了? 就估计Q1销售成本20亿吧,保守点,这直接亏5亿。 我看特斯拉19年Q1,卖车收入45亿,成本40亿,好歹卖车是赚的啊。而且查了所有能查到的财报,人家都是销售成本小于销售收入的。也就是特斯拉卖车是赚钱的业务!蔚来搞了半天,结果不说公司管理和研发费了,就作为一个纯卖车,这块都不赚钱… 而且现金和等价物也不多了,80多亿。照这个玩法,以及管理费研发费,Q3都吃紧,得赶快找钱融资啥的了。 而且我仔细看了ES6,别的不说,就说手机无线充电这个功能。我亲戚在外国车企(具体不能透露,反正绝对是名企,大家都知道)做研发工作,说像无线充电这种事情,他们的市场部门调研过,用户极少,因此压根不会放的。(你想,放在无线充电板上,你就不能玩手机了)然而蔚来在ES6中加入Qi无线充电这个功能,根本就是浪费。奥迪Q5,奔驰GLC,揽胜极光,都是这个价格级别的,都没有这个功能。难道奥迪奔驰做不出来?是做了没用!又增加汽车成本,又增加研发费,做了个鸡肋都不算的功能(毕竟鸡肋还弃之可惜呢),产品这块也让人质疑。
分析一下之前的财报
氧化锆
2019-05-23
$蔚来(NIO)$ 吼吼吼快跌快跌!
氧化锆
2019-05-23
$蔚来(NIO)$ 买了看跌期权,开心!
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