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美银:巨型股带动指数上涨是市场特性,不是“故障”
许大马帮
2023-09-23
大部分人是看不懂的。
一边大额亏损,一边大力投入,蔚来到底咋想的
许大马帮
2022-11-17
$蔚来(NIO)$
许大马帮
2022-04-04
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来这一家公司是认真做事的公司,这家公司的服务非常好。相信股票也会很好,长期持有。
许大马帮
2020-11-02
$蔚来(NIO)$
请问群里大神,在美用留学生的帐户买的蔚来股票,争了点钱,不知道如何交税,那位大神懂得美税,求解,谢谢🙏
许大马帮
2020-08-05
l
@Kamie:
$蔚来(NIO)$
今天5个点以上。我说的[微笑]
许大马帮
2020-07-29
$蔚来(NIO)$
看了好久好久,终于定下来了,终于成了蔚来汽车的车主。[微笑]
许大马帮
2020-04-30
上上个星期天去试驾了一下,蔚来汽车感觉的车子是个好车子。我也去试驾了一下,特斯拉,客观地说蔚来的车比特斯拉要好很多。做工内饰服务。都没得说。我要换车肯定换蔚汽车。我比较理性,不在乎什么面子。
$蔚来(NIO)$
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CYVN Holdings 7.4亿美元的股权投资,此次发行可转债又获得10亿美元入账。两笔资金总计折合人民币127亿元,但并不是所有融资都能用来补充流动资金,比如此次可转债募集的资金还要用来还旧债。2023年第三季度开始,蔚来销量明显回升,其月销量规模从上半年的月均8600辆左右,上升到7月和8月的1.8万辆、1.9万辆,主要是新款ES6车型销量增长带来。李斌在财报沟通会上也表示,2023年第三季度,蔚来的目标是毛利率回归两位数。随着新款EC6的发布,蔚来全系车型已经更新为NT2.0平台,产品力大幅提升,但面对现在 新能源车 市场的竞争强度,即便产品力提升明显,毛利是否能如蔚来所愿,还是未知数。针对外界对蔚来资金平衡的担忧和规劝蔚来降低投入强度的声音,在9月21日的创新科技日活动上,蔚来用全栈技术布局进行了回应,总结而言,就是钱没白花,风险可控。钱没白花,风险可控9月21日,蔚来在上海召开NIO IN 2023蔚来创新科技日,首次全面对外介绍了蔚来的全栈技术布局,详细介绍了蔚来自动驾驶的研发进展,另外用李斌的话说,顺便发了台手机。这场发布中,最吸引眼球的是蔚来手机,但对企业最重要的其实是全栈技术布局,覆盖12项核心能力的全栈技术,是蔚来巨额研发投入没白花的证明。覆盖12项关键能力的蔚来技术全栈。之前蔚来谈论更多的是这些关键技术能力给蔚来产品带来的竞争力:蔚来一直坚持双电机四驱,让蔚来产品在性能上一直是第一梯队;自研的ICC底盘域控制器让蔚来成为国内首批可以用OTA升级车辆驾控体验的车企;蔚来的可充、可换、可升级的理念也是基于其自研电池包才得以实现;特别是蔚来的自动驾驶研发团队,使用算力只有2.5Tops的Mobileye 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