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永恒踏空者
2018-05-25
别太迷信腾讯的合作了
$唯品会(VIPS)$ 这么多年过去了,微信的流量入口不像以前那么好用了。微信的深度用户,是真正把微信当做一个通讯工具,对这类用户导流的效果很小。而腾讯和唯品会的合作要是想有拼多多那样的效果,除非腾讯或者唯品会真能像拼多多那么**的引导用户,但目前看起来,无论是腾讯还是唯品会,现在都是穿了鞋子的人,都有了包袱。所以我断定,他们的引流效果不会好,因为微信的用户逐渐被微商,京东,拼多多给的分流搞的麻木。在这样的状况下,腾讯和京东的入股,跟普通的战略投资效果差不多,更何况京东还携带着自己的私心。
别太迷信腾讯的合作了
永恒踏空者
2017-08-19
骑虎难下的京东
$京东(JD)$ 太早和阿里短兵相接,现在骑虎难下。目前天猫,京东,苏宁在3C领域,同一款商品的零售价基本一样,而京东的履约成本却会高很多。然而在3C领域,产品非常标准化,一个小米手机,在天猫上买并不比在京东上买容易坏,客户通常不愿意为了物流上的一点优势付出更高的价格,但天猫卖一个手机赚钱,京东卖一个手机亏钱。要么京东索性就拉下脸来,我就是服务好,我的东西就是比天猫上贵。看看京东股票信仰者们,是否愿意跟进?
骑虎难下的京东
永恒踏空者
2018-11-24
$京东(JD)$ 刘强东这个人我不喜欢,但这个女的是携带着目的接近刘强东的;而从目前的情况来看,她或者媒体总是隔三差五的来个信息吸引人的眼球,虽然我不懂美国的法律流程,但这个女的真要想结束,就是起诉或者和解,拖着是什么意思? 我不在乎刘强东是好人坏人,在我看来,拖着就是有人希望这个事件让京东的股价一直在承压状态下,可能是想做空,可能是想迫使刘强东做什么事情,那既然是这样,终有一天这个事情会过去,股价终究会回到正常价位,请问大神们,现在京东在这个价位的股票值得购买么?
永恒踏空者
2017-06-19
这个公司有违当初的理念
$阿里健康(00241)$ 阿里健康就一直搞资产并购。但并没有真正为社会的健康提供有价值的产品。要知道你不搞并购,人家也能提供这些产品,阿里健康本身并没有提供有价值的增值服务。也许作为商业模式,你可能能成功的,但有违当初的理念。
这个公司有违当初的理念
永恒踏空者
2021-06-26
$每日优鲜(MF)$
总共这么多轮,融资110亿人民币,现在市值22亿美元。资本要退出,总要把股价搞上去啊。。
永恒踏空者
2017-08-24
阿里的信仰
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$ 近期来说,超越亚马逊是阿里的信仰,放心,阿里即使跌也会比亚马逊跌的少
阿里的信仰
永恒踏空者
2018-07-16
$唯品会(VIPS)$一个唯品会的市值,居然没有虎牙直播来的高,也真是无语
永恒踏空者
2017-08-17
京东扩张太快
$京东(JD)$ 阿里做什么,京东就跟进什么。这样下去,京东会被拖死的。毕竟阿里的盈利能力强,京东目前盈利没有那么强。
京东扩张太快
永恒踏空者
2020-01-30
$微软(MSFT)$
这样的财报,居然是这样的走势
永恒踏空者
2017-08-20
京东又开始活跃
$京东(JD)$ 京东自从出了财报后,和平台的自媒体基本都是唱衰京东。到今天我发现头条,UC,一点资讯上的自媒体又开始说京东的好了。下周一我认为可以入手。
京东又开始活跃
永恒踏空者
2018-05-10
刘强东吹过的牛很少实现
$京东(JD)$ 刘强东总是说五年内怎么怎么样,十年内怎么样,但这些吹过的牛都没有实现。特别是那个今年每天将开1000家京东小店的豪言壮语,虽然说是加盟的,这怎么实现?
刘强东吹过的牛很少实现
永恒踏空者
2018-02-03
国际化的阿里巴巴
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$ 腾讯是阿里的好对手,基本把电商领域除阿里之外的公司都建立了关联。但各位在使用微信的人,其实现在微信的导流不怎么好用了,已经被各个合作伙伴抢的差不多了,而且微信用户对参差不齐的导流方式开始厌倦。从京东,拼多多,美团,唯品会,微店等合作伙伴,不停的从腾讯那导流,但流量就这么多,合作伙伴要发展,不得不抢占别的别人的流量,而互联网公司的特性就是不希望命脉被别人掌握。像美团这样的公司最终肯定要自营销自己的用户体系,最终还是仅仅把腾讯当做战略投资者,而腾讯的做法也仅仅是对阿里的战略防守,只能对阿里在国内产生影响。我笃定,阿里的成败在国际化,只要在国内稳住占有率,如果国际化战略成功,再回头来打国内,应该是摧枯拉朽。就跟当年的华为一样,国际化打了一段时间,回头在国内打中兴等公司就轻松很多,所以前段时间蚂蚁金融的国际化受挫对阿里影响挺大。 相比阿里云,反倒没有国际化那么看好,因为就目前来看,阿里云要打出去,永远不得不面对亚马逊这个强大的对手,在IAas领域的一个特点是我使用了你的服务,再切换别的服务商就不大可能,因为切换成本太高,而等阿里打出去时国外已经是亚马逊的领地了,这一点上,我认为国家政府是需要干预的,应该以政策手段让云服务提供商早日停止竞争,出国门去占领世界的领地。否则像当初的滴滴和快的一直打架,最后合并后想出去,已经是uber的天下。在国内这种状况下,阿里云占领市场的手段只能是降价,但只要他不能消灭腾讯云,降价策略就不得不维持,以阿里云的市场占有率,降价越多,亏损越多,这种情况还要持续好多年,因为腾讯有钱可以打价格战。 阿里云的整体解决方案领域,不知道一直在说的城市大脑方案是否有市场,前段时间在马来西亚开始实施这个方案,算是云服务在国外落地的一个场景。 在我看来,阿里要想赢,股票要想涨,近几年,至少近几年,就看他的国际化战略执行的如何。就目前来看,东南亚
国际化的阿里巴巴
永恒踏空者
2017-11-08
腾讯入股也没有用
$Snap Inc(SNAP)$facebook入股陌陌百分之十,还是没有投票权的百分之十,你说陌陌能感动腾讯么?腾讯现在的百分之十,最多是能在未来收购Snap时,占得先机,如果有能力收购的话
腾讯入股也没有用
永恒踏空者
2017-08-14
京东财报哪里好了
$京东(JD)$ 净利润同比是大涨,环比下跌。上一个季度净利润14亿,本季度净利润9亿。这还是在营收大涨的情况下产生的,大家自己判断吧
京东财报哪里好了
永恒踏空者
2018-12-12
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$这将近两个星期,阿里的走势挺弱的。
永恒踏空者
2017-11-30
还是要跌
看这盘前走势,今天还是要跌
还是要跌
永恒踏空者
2017-11-02
这个公司有没有前途,看看FB
$Snap Inc(SNAP)$ 看看FB的运营情况就可以知道SNAP的前途,就像国内新的社交软件跟腾讯的对抗。
这个公司有没有前途,看看FB
永恒踏空者
2017-08-14
京东财报未必好
京东财报净收入同比上涨,环比下跌。上一个季度净利润14亿,这个季度净利润9亿。这还是营收大涨的情况下产生的。
京东财报未必好
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