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2020-06-18
$跟谁学(GSX)$
看看跟谁学和学而思两家的区别 都是百万粉丝 点赞量也没谁了 估计都懒得造假了 几十上百的点赞量😂
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2020-06-19
$跟谁学(GSX)$
员工眼里的跟谁学 换个角度看问题
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2020-06-23
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两家对比一下 一百万粉丝买来的吧 转发量好多个位数 不如人家几万粉丝转发量大
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2020-06-23
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真搞不懂 都是一样的套路 为啥只有跟谁学盈利了 也看不出这四家哪家好哪家坏 更看不懂哪里值百亿美元市值
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2020-06-23
$跟谁学(GSX)$
这是竞争白热化了吗 9块钱 十四节课还不让评论😂
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2021-08-05
做梦去吧
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2020-08-11
段永平嘴里的完全不懂就是 完全不靠谱😂
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的产能利用率,反应公司目前订单十分充足。</p><p>具体来看:</p><p><strong>1)核心指标一:联电毛利率及成本背后溢出的 “行业高景气”</strong></p><p>21Q2联电毛利率达到 31.2%,来到 10 年历史新高。从环比层面看,毛利率增长了 4.7%,其主要来自于出货均价的提升。</p><p>随着晶圆行业景气度的回暖,联电晶圆出货均价创近 3 年内的新高。再通过联电单片晶圆(等效 8 寸片)分析,环比层面上联电晶圆的固定成本(折旧摊销)和可变成本(其他制造费用)并没出现太多变化,那么晶圆出货均价的提高直接可以带动单片<span>毛利</span>的提升。</p><p><strong>价格和毛利率的明显提升,反应晶圆制造行业的高景气。</strong></p><p>来源:公司财报、海豚投研整理</p><p><strong>2)核心指标二:晶圆付运量和产能利用率背后的 “行业高景气”</strong></p><p>21Q2联电产能利用率 103%,连续两个季度超过 100%。从环比层面,联电的产能利用率虽略有下滑,但是海豚君观察到公司的晶圆付运量环比提升,这是因为联电在季度内保持扩产的节奏。从历史数据看,由于半导体是个持续成长的行业,联电的产能从季度上反应也在不断扩充。21Q2联电大约有 4% 的扩产幅度,但公司仍取得了超过 100% 的产能利用率,侧面验证公司的订单充足。</p><p><strong>晶圆扩产情况下仍然满载,反应晶圆制造行业高景气。</strong></p><p>来源:公司财报、海豚投研整理</p><p><strong>3)核心指标三:各制程节点背后折射出 12 寸成熟工艺的更高景气度</strong></p><p>21Q2联电各节点收入占比分析,40-65nm 和 65-90nm 制程收入占比环比提升 1%,28-40nm 制程收入占比环比下滑 2%。</p><p>结合近期<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>财报会上 Timothy D. Cook 对芯片的看法,苹果方面对于芯片供应安全的关注,先进工艺并没有大的问题,传统制程的供应安全更为担心。再结合联电各节点(成熟40-65nm 和 65-90nm 制程收入占比提升)可以推断,40-90nm 的 12 寸成熟工艺表现得更为紧缺。</p><p>来源:公司财报、海豚投研整理</p><p>面对全球增长的 12 寸晶圆需求,联电的 12 寸晶圆产能处于扩张周期。12 寸晶圆产能近 10 个季度以来基本呈现环比增长,本季度的环比增长更是达到 6%,产能扩充节奏领先于其他制程工艺。</p><p>从联电的财报数据看,12 寸成熟工艺制程需求攀升,精准印证了海豚君之前的推断 “汽车芯片需求的增长迫使部分原 8 寸产品进行转单,12 寸晶圆部分产能承接 8 寸片的转单需求。对晶圆产能需求的增长,推升了行业产能利用率水平”。</p><p><strong>晶圆制造的紧张情况,在 12 寸成熟工艺平台尤为明显。</strong></p><p>来源:公司财报、海豚投研整理</p><p><strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SMI\">中芯国际</a>:大陆 “联电” 的正向增长</strong></p><p>本次联电的财报反映了整体晶圆制造行业的高景气:</p><p>1)产能利用率:产能满载,超 100% 的产能利用率反应<strong>行业整体景气度高</strong>;</p><p>2)晶圆出货均价:晶圆价格环比提升 5.1%,行业市场化定价属性反应<strong>整体行业出货价提升</strong>;</p><p>3)成本结构:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/688981\">中芯国际</a><strong>的成本结构接近联电,毛利率有望抬升</strong>(类同于联电受出货价直接拉动);</p><p>4)产能结构:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00981\">中芯国际</a>具有大陆最大的 12 寸晶圆制造产能,<strong>公司和联电的产能中 12 寸晶圆占比都超 50%。在 12 寸成熟制程晶圆的高景气下,</strong><strong>中芯国际</strong><strong>和联电都将受益</strong>;</p><p>5)国产替代的急迫性:<strong>在芯片制造国产化背景下,中国大陆 12 寸晶圆存在更为严重的供需差,目前仅有 2 家晶圆代工厂具备量产能力,而绝大部分的产能来自</strong><strong>于中芯国际</strong>。</p><p><strong>中芯国际</strong><strong>作为半导体行业的后来者,除了先进工艺,成熟工艺上落下的课也要补。</strong>联电的产能利用率反应了全球 12 寸成熟工艺的产能紧张情况,同时由于中国大陆本身存在巨大的供需差,产能紧张表现得更为明显<strong>。</strong></p><p><strong>中芯国际作为中国大陆半导体的领军企业,不仅制程工艺领先,更是坐拥大陆最大的晶圆制造产能。在晶圆产能紧张、价格上涨受益的同时,中芯国际等也要把成熟工艺落下的课补上的任务。</strong></p><p><strong>时势造英雄,国产半导体,东风渐来。</strong></p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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