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mutouren
03-20
一看到股价跌了,这种没有自己独立思考的小作文又来了,你是真赚不到自己认知以外的钱
@爱是付出:老实说,我认为蔚来撑不了多久了。赛道超级拥挤,而蔚来引以为傲的品牌和服务根本不可能成为持久的竞争力;大投入重资产的换电业务正在被边缘化,这可是资金黑洞;关键一点,蔚来从头到尾都没起量,所有投资人都看不到回报;还有,搞手机,搞那么多子品牌,足以说明李斌对蔚来没有一个持久清晰的定位,缺乏战略定力。所以,蔚来被投资人和市场双重抛弃的结局,越来越近了。可惜了!
mutouren
03-20
“就像以前加液化气,换罐一样,自己的好罐换个差罐,心里总不舒服”,说出这句话来,我理解为你应该不是液化气用户,笑死人了
@金语良言:
$蔚来-SW(09866)$
由于存在续航焦虑的原因,谁也不想自己的好电池,换个差电池,就算电池是换电公司的也不行,而最根本的就是解决电池形态问题,开启闪充,才是根本之道,由液态转为固态,解决充电要快,解决夏天充电发热,冬天充电慢的问题,这样才能从根本上解决电车的核心技术问题,这样才能走向世界,一统江湖,不要迷信专家的话,有些专家叫:叫兽,他们不懂装懂,有些专家是拿了国外的好处,故意迷惑人,让一些企业走向错误的选择。社会人心险恶,不能迷信专家,否则吃亏的只是自己。 就像以前加液化气,换罐一样,自己的好罐换个差罐,心里总不舒服,而且自己的换电被垄断后,到时候他们恶意充电涨价,到时候电车就不实惠了,商人讲良心的少,别到最后实惠都让资本家占了,老百姓没得到,所以从人性上讲,老百姓也是支持闪充,这样自己有主动权,而不是支持换电,被人拿捏。从这个角度出发,一些企业会在错误的道路上越走越远。一些企业越走越近,熟是熟非,不用几年便见分晓。 中国的老百姓最喜欢的事,就不我买的自己我自己要有主动权,而不是我买了东西成了别人的提款机,如果有机会,他一定不计成本的换掉。做企业也要懂人性。
mutouren
03-19
15 元路过
@赚他一点点:
$小米集团-W(01810)$
我是真羡慕你们40多块成本价的
mutouren
03-14
所以有时候不要太相信自媒体那些文章,厂家花钱营销的
@大兵小石:
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
港股开市就下跌,以为能反弹就补仓, 越补越跌,发布会这么好,啥情况?
mutouren
03-14
“10分钟可以敢80%电量,后续估计很多厂商也会跟进”,当你写下这句话的时候,我觉你还是不放晒出你的空单吧,嘿嘿
@爷爷爷:
$蔚来(NIO)$
先说观点,蔚来这家企业必定会倒。核心原因是换电就是死路一条,蔚来在这省来省去的,有用但不是关键,核心问题不解决就是等死。 核心点在于产品竞争力和价格,从用户的角度出发,我能买比你便宜很多且竞争力更好的车,我为什么还要选蔚来?且不用担心这家企业有倒闭的风险。 用户多花的钱,没有更多的体现在产品本身的优势上,反而还要为你的换电系统做贡献? 还有蔚来的电耗+智驾做的这么垃圾,落后于同行,这么多年投入的巨额研发费用又去哪了? 尤其是小鹏推出17w的5C超充车型,10分钟可以敢80%电量,后续估计很多厂商也会跟进,这种情况下,蔚来真的十分尴尬,因为超充的迅猛发展确实已经威胁到了整个换电系统。 现在的蔚来陷入了进退两难的地步,降价和不降价的矛盾,不降价走不了量,死。降价走量,也是死,亏损加剧(需要投入更多在换电系统上)。 一堆问题,你们觉得蔚来还有救嘛?我觉得基本就差一个宣告了。
mutouren
03-14
机构慌了。。因为新 G6 G9 其实并非是换代车型,更多是优化 SKU,减少现有库存,改善现金流,小鹏目前主力依然是 Mona03
@极速飙车侠:小鹏不执着高端了,谁慌了? 前两个月,小鹏接连新势力单月销冠,股价也从开也迎来大幅攀升。以1月2日为基准日,截至3月13日,港股涨幅已经超过100%,市值超1800亿港元。 这只是小鹏的小胜,要想继续打赢这场比赛,必须持续出爆款。本次发布会,发布的是焕新G6和G9。这回小鹏不仅强调自己的科技长板,也从用户的角度,强调全方位的功能。定价也是非常关键,小鹏G6顶配不到20万,G9起售价也不到25万。市场的反馈也展现了这次的定价的竞争力,新款G6上市7分钟大定5000台。G9在上市45分钟之后,大定也突破了3000台。 看来小鹏不仅完成了对车的升级,何小鹏本人也实现了迭代。
$小鹏汽车-W(09868)$
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
mutouren
03-14
如果看新闻就能预测走势。。。呵呵
@lilililili:
$小鹏汽车-W(09868)$
啥情况啊,美股大涨,业绩牛逼,怎么能这么跌呢?
mutouren
03-13
这话前几天大涨的时候应该说才对,嗯!
@ziyangyunfen:
$蔚来(NIO)$
我已经被套半年了,半年前纠结买小鹏还是蔚来,结果鬼使神差买了蔚来,肠子都悔青了,蔚来不改革,不开除高管,不开掉铁成,蔚来倒闭就不远了!
mutouren
03-13
别 BB,晒出你的空单来
@保本出吧:
$蔚来(NIO)$
我觉得李斌这 CEO 当得真有问题。你瞧啊,蔚来这边既要搞好服务,又一门心思扑在换电业务上,还弄出个乐道,现在居然还想涉足手机领域。这就好比一个人,啥都想干,可精力哪能顾得过来呀。就不能踏踏实实地先把蔚来汽车本身的核心竞争力打造好吗?汽车的品质、性能、性价比这些才是根本啊。现在这样,就像那猴子捡西瓜,一路捡,一路丢,啥都想要,最后大概率啥都捞不着。这样下去,蔚来在市场上怎么能站稳脚跟呢?从这些情况看,我对蔚来的发展前景不太看好,基本是看空蔚来股票的态度 。
mutouren
03-06
晒出你的做空单
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mutouren
02-24
弱弱问,为啥理想拼命要上 MEGA,计划月销 8000,实际最多月销 1000,现在还在头铁上 I 系列纯电,请分析下,呵呵
@不想说话TT:
$理想汽车(LI)$
纯电(BEV)已经过时,新战场是增程式(EREV),发电机无缝充电🪫➡️🔋,续航大增,尤其适合寒冷地区。优势:车更大、电池更小、成本更低——这就是特斯拉销量下滑,而理想 LI 这些做增程的车企反而大卖的原因。
mutouren
01-02
稳态月销三万上半年不难,下半年竞品新车出来很多,一定会分流,关键是看二线及以下城市的成交,一线 基本饱和,换电县县通的意义就在这里
@像海:
$蔚来(NIO)$
要是它能稳稳当当地在三个月里头,保持着月销量三万辆以上,那我估摸着,市场可就真真正正地认可它了。这销量数字往那儿一摆,那就是实力的最好证明,期待蔚来带给我们更大的惊喜。
mutouren
01-02
产能不是问题,后续换电运营,NT2.5 产品,营销动能,智驾研发更新才是关键也是挑战,2025 是生死年,任何一家都是
@熊猫panda:
$蔚来(NIO)$
买了一成蔚来4月份的看涨期权,赌一下乐道产能爬升
mutouren
2024-12-26
999 的首发版已经卖完了,今天新增了签名版,你说火不火吧
@像海:
$蔚来(NIO)$
蔚来的ET9,颜值这块儿绝对是拿捏得死死的,车子是真漂亮。但至于能不能在市场上火一把,销量嗖嗖往上涨,这事还真不好说。
mutouren
2024-12-24
我开仓了
$蔚来(NIO)$
,乐道 12 月交付过 万 基本确定,三季度财报会上对于四季度的交付展望符合预期,ET9 订单火热,萤火虫三眼造型获得大量曝光流量,为明年二季度大规模获客和交付添砖加瓦
mutouren
2024-11-20
没想到吧,财报这么难看,今天还翻红了,为啥,你细品//
@mutouren
:这点认识还是别玩美股了,另外,雷军是蔚来投资人之一。。。。蔚来的问题不是车型,不是品类,本质还是内部资源运营效率,产品定义,换电概念的前期巨大教育成本,豪华品牌的巨大技术研发投入,对比理想,人家一不搞前沿研发,都是等其他家上了新技术,自己再跟进乃至超越,其次是只看财务回报率,眼前利益,但凡毛利低的事情一律不做,或者拖着不做,比如充电桩,比如纯电系列,比如今年开始的大电池小油箱的新一代增程架构,太多了,不一一列举。
@mutouren:这点认识还是别玩美股了,另外,雷军是蔚来投资人之一。。。。蔚来的问题不是车型,不是品类,本质还是内部资源运营效率,产品定义,换电概念的前期巨大教育成本,豪华品牌的巨大技术研发投入,对比理想,人家一不搞前沿研发,都是等其他家上了新技术,自己再跟进乃至超越,其次是只看财务回报率,眼前利益,但凡毛利低的事情一律不做,或者拖着不做,比如充电桩,比如纯电系列,比如今年开始的大电池小油箱的新一代增程架构,太多了,不一一列举。
mutouren
2024-11-20
这点认识还是别玩美股了,另外,雷军是蔚来投资人之一。。。。蔚来的问题不是车型,不是品类,本质还是内部资源运营效率,产品定义,换电概念的前期巨大教育成本,豪华品牌的巨大技术研发投入,对比理想,人家一不搞前沿研发,都是等其他家上了新技术,自己再跟进乃至超越,其次是只看财务回报率,眼前利益,但凡毛利低的事情一律不做,或者拖着不做,比如充电桩,比如纯电系列,比如今年开始的大电池小油箱的新一代增程架构,太多了,不一一列举。
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mutouren
2024-10-22
你先了解下,三傻里面谁先提出做芯片,谁先量产AI芯片的,小鹏算第二个,理想疯狂的追赶纯电技术,明年可能还要被问界,零跑,长安以及小鹏的大电池新一代增程围攻,仔细研究下再发言吧
@我就是庄:
$蔚来(NIO)$
理想和小鹏把钱都投到技术,AI芯片上,蔚来把钱投到服务和换电站上,这就是蔚来为什么在竞争中落后的原因
mutouren
2024-07-03
玩短线玩不大的
@价值投资实践中:
$蔚来(NIO)$
6块?????
mutouren
2024-06-12
比亚迪,上汽 MG,长城,极氪,领克。。。理想不敢去欧洲,就是二手车卖给俄国人机中亚五国,蔚来和小鹏量不大,对当前的业绩影响微乎其微。蔚来前期投入换电站及销售网络的成本比较高,但是还在可控范围。小鹏是经销商模式,钱已经入账,就是没赚钱
@Seven8:
$蔚来(NIO)$
EU这个关税对谁影响大?
$比亚迪股份(01211)$
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
$理想汽车(LI)$
记得好像nio出海最多?
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