🆘说说蔚来🆘

2020-01-16

🆘 1月3日，特斯拉宣布对国产版Model 3降价，售价从35.58万元降至32.38万元，加上免征购置税和24750元的新能源补贴，最终国产版Model 3的补贴后售价为299050元，进入了30万元以内。不到30万元、可以买到续航里程445km起的国产特斯拉。
但特斯拉国产首先取消了免费赠送和安装家用充电桩的服务，用户如需安装，需要另外付费购买，费用大概是8000元左右。最吸引人的Autopilot自动驾驶辅助功能，需要选装付费56000元，此外除了黑色外的其他颜色也需另加8000元。如果以上选项我们全部加上，价格至少在36万元。

⭕️蔚来和广汽蔚来合创想把特斯拉以上需另付费的服务和功能都拥有，也需要选择中高配，价格和特斯拉这36万也差不多，几乎一致。
⭕️试问有多少人会以同样价格去买同样配置的蔚来或广汽蔚来合创而放弃选择特斯拉呢？
⭕️更何况相当一部分车主更在意全球新能源汽车开创和领导者的国外品牌效应并且对上述附加功能和服务需求度不高，他们就愿意29.9万买特斯拉，感觉价格不贵车开出去还有面子！
⭕️特斯拉上海工厂1月7日首批国产车正式交付并逐步增加量产、不断提高零件配件国产化程度、降低成本，最终市场销售价格还会合理的下降。
🆘综上所述，这就是我2020年看空蔚来的个人分析和理由。$蔚来(NIO)$$特斯拉(TSLA)$

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风所以往
2020-01-16
风所以往
你犯了关键性错误，就是特斯拉的车辆品质不及蔚来，无论是用料做工，还是电机效能和机械素质，都要差一两个档次。并且model3只能算紧凑轿车，而ES6是中型suv，两者不在一个级别。
这是我线**验两者的个人结论，我长期看好蔚来。
- 向华强回复风所以往:
  你只看全球第三季度数据又有卵用呢？某一年或某一季度的影响因素变量太多了也代表不了真实情况。看看过去5年的总量
- 风所以往回复向华强:
  日本的情况毕竟代表不了全球。我查了2019第三季度全球手机出货量:三星7890万，华为6680万，苹果4350万，小米3250万，oppo3200万。苹果的销量低于华为，所谓品牌价值，让它得以抠成本升价格，从而得到高达60%的毛利率，资本世界喜欢高毛利。
- 风所以往回复向华强:
  看你的发言，就可以猜到你是果粉了。特斯拉，苹果，品牌价值，大家都懂的 [可爱]
- 向华强:
  知道这么叫品牌价值吗？华为技术再先进小米性价比再高性能数据再发烧，还是没有苹果在市场受欢迎，尤其是在日本，华为小米 vivo OPPO加一起市场占有率都不到10%
- superiris:
  咋可能还差...
SSLADY
2020-01-16
SSLADY
model x和model s应该已经开启了对m3的鄙视链，一看你就没买过豪车不懂
- 向华强回复SSLADY:
  没说完还有就是品牌优势不只体现在中端和中低端车型上，高端也一样，特斯拉modelX能卖到90万，蔚来假如出一款90万的车，有多客户会买账呢？
- 向华强回复SSLADY:
  “有面子”这3个字对社会各个阶层的人的定义是不一样的，马云无论开多贵的豪车，大家也不会觉得他是因为开的车才有面子的，反之广大劳苦大众开上20、30万的迈腾、雅阁等中档车生活就已经超越很多有车一族了，何况是20多万能买辆特斯拉在前几年想都不敢想，价格门槛都不到。品牌优势就在这个时候体现了。
- SSLADY回复向华强:
  这个算么
- 向华强回复风所以往:
  一天的涨跌没有任何意义，成功看空一个公司都不容易，你却能看空整个美国制造业？你成仙了！你真牛X！
- 向华强回复风所以往:
  看来你脑子🧠真的是不好使啊，再帮你捋捋！你又尼玛转移话题，胡搅蛮缠了。说的是蔚来和特斯拉，新能源汽车懂吗？你一直扯什么和平年代和立场，莫名其妙，答非所问，理解能力逻辑性真的很差！车的性能也好质量也好，好就是好，不好就是不好，这是一个客观存在一个实物！和立场和爱不爱国毫无关系，打个比方：一个爱国的人开着奇瑞qq你能说这个qq是好车？不要自己在那意淫了OK？
frankyang
2020-01-16
frankyang
中国政府引进特斯拉目的是健全电动汽车在国内的整个产业链，电动汽车是中国汽车工业弯道超车的最好机会，等待产业链体系逐步完善，中国政府肯定会扶植国内最具竞争力的国内电动车厂商，蔚来是头部企业，经过几年市场历练，后面无论从自身的实力、市场需求以及政府的助力一定会有不错的发展，别看特斯拉现在热，在中国的地盘上将来中美贸易战有啥风吹草动，政府要捏死他也是分分钟事情，充其量也是谈判筹码，我支持国货，看好蔚来！
- 向华强回复金不换第一:
  是的，这个我承认，一直没说蔚来驾驶体验不好，但是像您说的，要撇开新能源，但它就是新能源车，而且和特斯拉整体相比，还有很长一段距离要走
- 金不换第一回复向华强:
  我开了8年奥迪，感觉车子开得舒服，最近试了es6，撇开新能源，驾驶感受比奥迪不差了
- 向华强回复frankyang:
  没说不支持国货，我们在聊股票好么？蔚来在国内同类车企是很好，只是分和谁比较。
- frankyang回复向华强:
  我买了一辆es6，开起来很不错，服务也很好，用实际行动支持国货
- 向华强:
  看看今天签署的中美第一阶段经贸协议吧，没见到美国的任何让步之处，只看到到中国对美国增加进口和开放各个重要领域的承诺。支持国货支持国内企业无可厚非，但这是拿自己的钱在玩，亏的一塌糊涂政府不会给你买单，中国的汽车工业整体发展水平和发达国家相比还是很落后，何况蔚来自己不造车，委托江淮这样的汽车厂家来制造汽车主体，不论你怎么想我是不敢开这种车的，更别提花上小40万来买了
萧蝶sally
2020-01-16
萧蝶sally
看空和看多，要基于目前的企业股票价格。蔚来目前市值很低，仅烧掉的钱就值百亿市值，何况几十亿市值呢
- 向华强:
  还有请注意！蔚来4年烧了400亿人民币（美元约57亿）哪来的百亿市值？美元和人民币请注意区分
- 向华强:
  如果按你这样算只要烧钱多市值一定比烧的钱多，就不会有乐视和贾跃亭了，其次市值是以美元计算，不要人民币美元要分的清啊，蔚来4年烧了400亿人民币（美元约57亿），哪来的烧掉百亿美元？
- 向华强:
  很戏剧啊，贾老板也是因为造车资金链断裂跑美国的
- 向华强:
  按你的意思，就不会有乐视和贾跃亭了
- 史泰郎回复7酱:
  说得对，烧钱在工厂上那是真投入，烧在用户服务上，等哪天不烧了，马上粉转黑，李斌这是走了不归路。试问，蔚来用户规模扩大以后，势必不可能维持目前的服务水平了，不论是新用户和老用户都不会乐意，那么请问出路在哪里？李斌自己都说没有降价空间了。
赌狗一枚
2020-01-16
赌狗一枚
我一个从没涉事股票的，来美股，只为蔚来，长线持有。表示将来换车了，五十万以内也不会考虑特斯拉，es6和毛豆3完全就是两种类型的车，各有优劣和各自的细分市场，没什么好比的
- 向华强回复美美美美美美美:
  祝你好运今晚就大跌
- 向华强:
  以前没国产时特斯拉中高档车，还有细分市场可言，现在国产了不到30万已经走向中低档了，比蔚来还便宜或者价格相当，还细分什么？已经在同一价格档位开始竞争了，前两年国产新能源汽车补贴多，优惠多，加上地方保护，还有特斯拉没有国产，价格上是个挡板把大多数购买者拒之门外，国产新能源汽车车企才活的很好，现在已经和特斯拉是同台竞争了
- 美美美美美美美:
  哈哈我也是前两天无意发现蔚来股价这么低果断买了它应该是个十倍股或者几倍股特斯拉现在都已经20倍了以后可能几十倍那么蔚来十倍不过分吧打算长期持有加油
大哥奥斯卡
2020-01-17
大哥奥斯卡
[开心]你这人生安白造，人家没激动你一直说人家激动，人家说这两款车你说人家爱国超理性，兜了一圈你又表达我们现在是在说车。别激动。醒醒。你没做自媒体吗？你在论坛乱吠能赚钱吗？
- 向华强:
  原来你这样出来乱吠是想赚钱的？

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