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京东商城
12-18 22:42
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
10 万亿,冲!
京东商城
12-18 13:19
特斯拉10万亿
京东商城
12-18 13:16
$苹果(AAPL)$
别扭扭捏捏的,一口气400就完了
京东商城
12-17 03:53
$苹果(AAPL)$
25年400 6万亿
京东商城
12-15
涨价了? 多了什么东西呢? 关税大棒不会导致直接垄断吧,不是还有福特吗,没看懂,这波操作
特斯拉美国Model S涨价
京东商城
12-14
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
明年会不会上1000,长期看好。这个公司市值应该在10万亿
京东商城
12-14
$苹果(AAPL)$
微笑曲线, 苹果看到400
京东商城
12-11
$Moderna, Inc.(MRNA)$
大势已去,这个野鸡空壳公司早晚一条爆雷退市破产
京东商城
12-07
$Aurora Innovation(AUR)$
$小马智行(PONY)$
这个公司好像是货运,并且目前没形成有效的产品。 这个有退市风险
京东商城
12-07
$小马智行(PONY)$
小马智行的技术比百度的智能驾驶更好, 为什么,因为同样的公里数,小马的打车价格更低,并且是豪华车,就这一点充分说明在体验差距不大的背后,小马的运营成本一定是更低的,投资和炒股都是炒预期,我认为小马一旦国内开始发自动驾驶出租车牌照之后将迎来至少10倍的估值增加。 技术不会贬值,一切都在等牌照。 特斯拉在国内最大的竞争对手我猜应该是小马。百度迟早要出局。
京东商城
12-05
下一步就是20万,虚拟货币吗,唯一的等价物就是有没有人相信它可以到20万
见证历史!比特币冲破10万美元,全球信仰者狂欢,下一步是什么?
京东商城
12-04
$苹果(AAPL)$
涨涨涨
京东商城
12-04
$苹果(AAPL)$
太硬了, 业绩这个样都能一直涨,
京东商城
12-04
到底是什么支撑苹果还能继续涨, 是信仰
京东商城
12-04
说白了,不想给股东打工,只想做自己想做的
观点:马斯克薪酬方案再度成为焦点,但更大问题仍待解决
京东商城
11-28
$小马智行(PONY)$
清仓啦
京东商城
11-26
$英伟达(NVDA)$
100以内
京东商城
11-18
Replying to
@夜流沙
:amd //
@夜流沙
:英伟达的护城河很稳固,要降价除非有替代品,而且是硬件和软件都有才可以,然而目前还没有。反观pdd 倒是极大可能去挑战一下amzn [贱笑]
京东商城
11-12
【投票贴】
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
你认为马斯克有机会进白宫么
京东商城
11-08
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
300 怎么没人出价啊,虎友们,100个人出300 买给拉上去让全世界都能看到你们。
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Atkins担任美国证券交易委员会主席,加密货币行业对这一提名持积极态度,因此出现了最新的飙升。但由于一些投资者获利了结,比特币价格在选举后强劲上涨后,最近几天出现下跌。</p><p>但就在刚刚,比特币突破十万美元,全球共同见证了这一历史时刻。一些专家警告称,由于杠杆过高,比特币价格或将出现回调。</p><p><strong>#01</strong></p><p><strong>BTC四年牛熊周期论</strong></p><p>BTC 创世区块在2009年1月3日被中本聪开采,这标志着 BTC 的正式诞生。受 BTC 供应量四年一次减半影响,BTC 的价格变化遵循着四年一个牛熊的周期,分别在 2013 年 11 月,2017 年 12 月和 2021 年 11 月达到 ATH,即牛市顶峰,随后步入漫长的熊市。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c28afc7d92fbe6943a77397de1b320ec\" title=\"图源: BlockGuard\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"526\"/><span>图源: BlockGuard</span></p><p>BTC 价格最早记录于 2010 年5 月,当时有人花费10,000个 BTC 购买了两个披萨,即每一枚比特币定价为 0.01 美元。在这三个牛熊周期中,BTC 的价格从2010年的0.01美金,到现在翻了一千万倍,来到了10万美金,成为过去 20 年中全球范围内表现最瞩目的资产。</p><p><strong>#02</strong></p><p><strong>BTC的价值发现</strong></p><p>比特币诞生于中本聪对于国家发行的法定货币的不信任——全球央行滥发货币与操纵银行账户导致个体财富被动地为国家和寡头经济服务,货币超发使个人账户不断缩水,不合时宜的政策让信贷泡沫不断膨胀,经济危机越来越频繁。</p><p>正如中本聪在比特币白皮书中提到:</p><p><em>The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that’s required to make it work.</em></p><p><em>The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve.</em></p><p><em>We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts. Their massive overhead costs make micropayments impossible</em>. (Nakamoto)</p><p><em>传统货币的根本问题是使其发挥作用所需的信任。</em></p><p><em>必须相信中央银行不会让货币贬值,但法定货币的历史充满了对这种信任的破坏。银行必须被信任来持有我们的资金并以电子方式转移资金,但它们在信贷泡沫的浪潮中将其借出,而储备金却微乎其微。</em></p><p><em>我们必须相信他们不会泄露我们的隐私,相信他们不会让身份窃贼盗取我们的账户。他们巨大的管理费用使得小额支付成为不可能。(中本)</em></p><p>这一切都是因为现有货币完全由人操纵和决策,哪怕这些人是所谓的专业的决策群体。只要是人,就有弱点,有其劣根性。</p><p>而比特币作为一种在区块链上点对点记账的数字货币不会有。代码写死了它的总量是2100万枚,其采用密码技术来控制货币的生产和转移,而不受任何中央的发行机构控制,无法任意增发。且比特币的交易可以不必经过任何第三方金融机构,也就无法成为他们肆意操纵他人财富的工具。</p><p>对现有金融秩序乃至国家金融主权的挑战使得比特币并不讨喜,巴菲特称比特币为“老鼠药”,芒格说“交易比特币就是交易粪便”。许多国家也封禁比特币相关产业,称之为“骗局”。</p><p>但比特币并没有因为既得利益者的打压而死去,相反,其独特的经济模型赋予早期支持者布道的能力,也给于比特币自证价值的时间。四年一次产量减半配合法定货币的疯狂超发不断抬升着单个比特币的价格,比特币价格的抬升将其推向更广的人群——傻子才会会拒绝一个不断上涨的资产。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fed34028513b975a948543af2f6f582e\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"606\"/></p><p>比特币的价格上涨带动了价值发现。</p><p>2021 年年初,特斯拉明确表示支持比特币;2021年11月18日,萨尔瓦多宣布一天购买一枚比特币且永不卖出;2024年年初,比特币ETF通过;2024年7月,特朗普出席比特币大会,称当选后会将比特币作为美国国家战略储备资产且永不出售;2024 年 11 月,比特币市值正式超过白银,成为全球第八大资产。</p><p>在可预见的未来里,主流主权国家将逐渐对比特币敞开怀抱,比特币的价值将不断被发现。</p><p><strong>#03</strong></p><p><strong>这次,美国站在加密货币一边</strong></p><p>特朗普的胜选无疑给BTC价格飙升带来了极大助力。</p><p>2024年7月,特朗普出席Bitcoin2024纳什维尔大会,在大会上坦言当选之后不会出售任何一枚美国政府拥有的比特币,要把比特币当做国家战略储备资产。同时,他会推进透明监管落地,解雇反对加密货币的SEC主席Gary Gensler,并且推进电力挖矿的发展。</p><p>目前美国政府拥有将近21万枚比特币,占总供应量的1%。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f726f8b5ac07a13423a2ae34e6743586\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"720\"/></p><p>而本次特朗普胜选的主要功臣之一马斯克,也是一名加密货币的拥趸。</p><p>早在 2021 年,马斯克就公开支持加密货币,甚至探索过狗狗币($DOGE)作为特斯拉支付货币的可能性。而当下,特斯拉也是第三大持有比特币的上市公司,持有超过 33 万枚比特币,占比特币总供应量约 1.6%。</p><p>在大选结果出来之前,马斯克更是说要成立政府效率部门(The Department of Government Efficiency, D.O.G.E ),受此影响,特朗普胜选后,狗狗币($DOGE)飙升至 0.4 美元/枚,较大选前的低点翻了五倍。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ac87ed6df17d79bd66a79ec822a3f7a5\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"782\"/></p><p>美国对于 BTC 180 度的转向无疑是加密利益集团使用钞能力的必然结果,也只有在美国,BTC 才能将主权国家对于权力的执念踩在脚下。</p><p>多米诺骨牌已经开始推倒,历史车轮将滚滚向前。</p><p><strong>#04</strong></p><p><strong>BTC价格或将超100万美金</strong></p><p>BTC 的终点在哪里?</p><p>2018年,BTC教父九神在《囤币指南》中写道:“世界财富总量在以每年6%的速度增长,10 年以后总量是现在的1.8倍,20年以后总量是现在的3.2倍。因此,假设20年后比特币的储值功能得到广泛认可,那时它的价格应该是1.6亿元人民币。”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/043c0896de45a2a44c78bdce7f30cd6d\" title=\"图片来源:@starzqeth\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"341\"/><span>图片来源:@starzqeth</span></p><p>关于对 BTC 未来价值的推测有很多种:</p><p>MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor 在近期接受的采访里面称,比特币在 2045 年达到 1300 万美元,也就是接下来的21年平均年涨幅会达到 29%。</p><p>以Twitter创始人Jack Dorsey和木头姐Cathie Wood为代表的黄金替代论者,则认为BTC可以在未来10年内达到100-150万美金一枚。</p><p>知名比特币价格建模预测家PlanB的Stock to Flow 模型表明,到2030年,比特币价格将逼近 2500万美元一枚。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a85f131f003a9f9587b10e78fc0f9e47\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"608\"/></p><p>随着一次又一次越发紧凑的全球大放水,以法定货币计价的比特币将越来越昂贵,这不禁让人发文,究竟是比特币价格涨了,还是别的什么相对价值跌了?比特币永远都是2100万枚,不喜不悲。</p><p>如果你对这番预测感到不可思议甚至认为胡说八道,那么我们送你一句中本聪在比特币白皮书中的一句话:</p><p>If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.</p><p><em>(如果你不相信我或不明白,我没有时间说服你,对不起。)</em></p></body></html>","source":"lsy1569392927766","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve.We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts. Their massive overhead costs make micropayments impossible. (Nakamoto)传统货币的根本问题是使其发挥作用所需的信任。必须相信中央银行不会让货币贬值,但法定货币的历史充满了对这种信任的破坏。银行必须被信任来持有我们的资金并以电子方式转移资金,但它们在信贷泡沫的浪潮中将其借出,而储备金却微乎其微。我们必须相信他们不会泄露我们的隐私,相信他们不会让身份窃贼盗取我们的账户。他们巨大的管理费用使得小额支付成为不可能。(中本)这一切都是因为现有货币完全由人操纵和决策,哪怕这些人是所谓的专业的决策群体。只要是人,就有弱点,有其劣根性。而比特币作为一种在区块链上点对点记账的数字货币不会有。代码写死了它的总量是2100万枚,其采用密码技术来控制货币的生产和转移,而不受任何中央的发行机构控制,无法任意增发。且比特币的交易可以不必经过任何第三方金融机构,也就无法成为他们肆意操纵他人财富的工具。对现有金融秩序乃至国家金融主权的挑战使得比特币并不讨喜,巴菲特称比特币为“老鼠药”,芒格说“交易比特币就是交易粪便”。许多国家也封禁比特币相关产业,称之为“骗局”。但比特币并没有因为既得利益者的打压而死去,相反,其独特的经济模型赋予早期支持者布道的能力,也给于比特币自证价值的时间。四年一次产量减半配合法定货币的疯狂超发不断抬升着单个比特币的价格,比特币价格的抬升将其推向更广的人群——傻子才会会拒绝一个不断上涨的资产。比特币的价格上涨带动了价值发现。2021 年年初,特斯拉明确表示支持比特币;2021年11月18日,萨尔瓦多宣布一天购买一枚比特币且永不卖出;2024年年初,比特币ETF通过;2024年7月,特朗普出席比特币大会,称当选后会将比特币作为美国国家战略储备资产且永不出售;2024 年 11 月,比特币市值正式超过白银,成为全球第八大资产。在可预见的未来里,主流主权国家将逐渐对比特币敞开怀抱,比特币的价值将不断被发现。#03这次,美国站在加密货币一边特朗普的胜选无疑给BTC价格飙升带来了极大助力。2024年7月,特朗普出席Bitcoin2024纳什维尔大会,在大会上坦言当选之后不会出售任何一枚美国政府拥有的比特币,要把比特币当做国家战略储备资产。同时,他会推进透明监管落地,解雇反对加密货币的SEC主席Gary Gensler,并且推进电力挖矿的发展。目前美国政府拥有将近21万枚比特币,占总供应量的1%。而本次特朗普胜选的主要功臣之一马斯克,也是一名加密货币的拥趸。早在 2021 年,马斯克就公开支持加密货币,甚至探索过狗狗币($DOGE)作为特斯拉支付货币的可能性。而当下,特斯拉也是第三大持有比特币的上市公司,持有超过 33 万枚比特币,占比特币总供应量约 1.6%。在大选结果出来之前,马斯克更是说要成立政府效率部门(The Department of Government Efficiency, D.O.G.E ),受此影响,特朗普胜选后,狗狗币($DOGE)飙升至 0.4 美元/枚,较大选前的低点翻了五倍。美国对于 BTC 180 度的转向无疑是加密利益集团使用钞能力的必然结果,也只有在美国,BTC 才能将主权国家对于权力的执念踩在脚下。多米诺骨牌已经开始推倒,历史车轮将滚滚向前。#04BTC价格或将超100万美金BTC 的终点在哪里?2018年,BTC教父九神在《囤币指南》中写道:“世界财富总量在以每年6%的速度增长,10 年以后总量是现在的1.8倍,20年以后总量是现在的3.2倍。因此,假设20年后比特币的储值功能得到广泛认可,那时它的价格应该是1.6亿元人民币。”图片来源:@starzqeth关于对 BTC 未来价值的推测有很多种:MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor 在近期接受的采访里面称,比特币在 2045 年达到 1300 万美元,也就是接下来的21年平均年涨幅会达到 29%。以Twitter创始人Jack Dorsey和木头姐Cathie Wood为代表的黄金替代论者,则认为BTC可以在未来10年内达到100-150万美金一枚。知名比特币价格建模预测家PlanB的Stock to Flow 模型表明,到2030年,比特币价格将逼近 2500万美元一枚。随着一次又一次越发紧凑的全球大放水,以法定货币计价的比特币将越来越昂贵,这不禁让人发文,究竟是比特币价格涨了,还是别的什么相对价值跌了?比特币永远都是2100万枚,不喜不悲。如果你对这番预测感到不可思议甚至认为胡说八道,那么我们送你一句中本聪在比特币白皮书中的一句话:If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have 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Jonas)在周二关于特拉华州衡平法院裁决的报告中再次提到这一问题。他写道:“‘控制权’问题是否这次依然重要?我们认为它仍然很重要。”乔纳斯指出,特斯拉是马斯克参与或创办的几家公司中唯一一家公司他没有控制权的公司。他补充道:“此外,我们认为眼下的问题是控制权而非资本。实现控制权可能有很多替代路径。”</p><p>对于特斯拉而言,下一步可能是为马斯克制定新的薪酬方案,因为该公司现在位于德克萨斯州,这样就可以避免在未来薪酬协议中受到特拉华州的管辖。但这样做将给公司带来巨大的成本。2018年,马斯克的薪酬方案出台时,特斯拉的股价在18至23美元之间。而现在,股价约为352美元。今年以来,特斯拉股价上涨了近44%。如果公司发行新的股票期权,其价格将比2018年高得多。</p><p>另一个问题是上诉程序可能走多远,以及要花多久时间。通常,特拉华州最高法院是特拉华州衡平法院裁决的最终上诉法院,只有涉及联邦问题的案件才会提交给美国最高法院。然而,Wedbush Securities 分析师 Dan Ives认为,如果特斯拉和马斯克在特拉华州最高法院败诉,他们可能会将案件提交给美国最高法院。</p><p>Dan Ives在报告中表示:“我们仍然相信,特斯拉和马斯克将全力抗争,直至特拉华州最高法院,然后可能诉诸联邦法院,因为这仍然是特斯拉、马斯克和股东的一个头疼问题。”</p><p>圣克拉拉大学法学院副教授斯蒂芬·戴蒙德(Stephen Diamond)表示,特拉华州最高法院对特拉华州法律问题拥有最终裁决权。“除非涉及联邦问题,否则这是上诉的最终裁决,”他说。</p><p>“我不是诉讼律师,但我相当肯定,如果特斯拉在上诉前没有提出联邦问题,现在就不能这样做了,”戴蒙德在一封邮件中写道。“当然,他们可能会提出某种全新的索赔,并在联邦法院提起新的诉讼,但我不知道那会是什么。最简单的解决方法是作为德克萨斯州的实体重新协商薪酬方案,但这很可能会导致马斯克的回报大幅减少。”</p><p>因此,随着特斯拉继续为马斯克薪酬方案而战,公司必须权衡是否继续上诉,还是根据目前股价发布新的薪酬方案,或者采取其他方式让马斯克在公司中获得更多股份,同时避免公司支付数十亿美元的费用。彭博社估计,如果现在给马斯克相同的薪酬选择,可能会导致约250亿美元的会计费用。</p><p>虽然投资者还未看到马斯克薪酬争议的结束,但他们也需要意识到,特拉华州衡平法院驳回马斯克薪酬方案的裁决可能导致特斯拉的成本进一步增加。无论是通过新的期权方案产生巨额减记,还是通过稀释股份的方式让马斯克获得更多股份,特斯拉都面临巨大的财务挑战。</p><p>文章源自marketwatch《Opinion: Elon Musk’s Tesla pay-package fight is back in the spotlight, but here’s an even bigger issue》</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" 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Diamond)表示,特拉华州最高法院对特拉华州法律问题拥有最终裁决权。“除非涉及联邦问题,否则这是上诉的最终裁决,”他说。</p><p>“我不是诉讼律师,但我相当肯定,如果特斯拉在上诉前没有提出联邦问题,现在就不能这样做了,”戴蒙德在一封邮件中写道。“当然,他们可能会提出某种全新的索赔,并在联邦法院提起新的诉讼,但我不知道那会是什么。最简单的解决方法是作为德克萨斯州的实体重新协商薪酬方案,但这很可能会导致马斯克的回报大幅减少。”</p><p>因此,随着特斯拉继续为马斯克薪酬方案而战,公司必须权衡是否继续上诉,还是根据目前股价发布新的薪酬方案,或者采取其他方式让马斯克在公司中获得更多股份,同时避免公司支付数十亿美元的费用。彭博社估计,如果现在给马斯克相同的薪酬选择,可能会导致约250亿美元的会计费用。</p><p>虽然投资者还未看到马斯克薪酬争议的结束,但他们也需要意识到,特拉华州衡平法院驳回马斯克薪酬方案的裁决可能导致特斯拉的成本进一步增加。无论是通过新的期权方案产生巨额减记,还是通过稀释股份的方式让马斯克获得更多股份,特斯拉都面临巨大的财务挑战。</p><p>文章源自marketwatch《Opinion: Elon Musk’s Tesla pay-package fight is back in the spotlight, but here’s an even bigger 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