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基金公司自曝基民不赚钱的秘密

景顺长城基金2021-04-17

同样是由刘彦春管理的基金，成立时间相近，基金收益率相差无几，认购持有人盈亏情况却千差万别。在景顺长城绩优成长收益率近100%的情况下，有67.83%的认购持有人收益率小于25%。而景顺长城集英成长的认购持有人全部获得97.62%的收益。（数据来源：景顺长城基金，截至2021.03.31，业绩已经托管行复核，同期业绩比较基准收益率分别为13.47%、35.35%）这两只基金的认购持有人，仿佛用两年...

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2021_NS
·2021-04-18
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清华北大不如胆大
·2021-04-18
所谓“二八效应”在基金的表现上也能够体现，即可能80%的涨幅只在约20%的时间内完成了。反过来说，错过了这20%的时间，可能你的收益就并不如意。
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飞车手
·2021-04-18
666
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东山岛青
·2021-04-18
实话实说
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925刀入场
·2021-04-17
我就说一个简单的，10万元基金两年才翻一番，10万元股票两年不止10万元
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- 925刀入场:
  老股民就不会有这种想法
  我去年八月份的定期基金现在是亏损的
  八月份的股票是赚钱的
  2021-04-18
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- 学习无止境的小白:
  文章给的基金数据不完全，真实数据是亏损5%以上的占了65%人，亏5%以内的占12%，这两年基金收益这么高都能亏，你让别人去买股票那得亏哭去
  2021-04-17
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joyo1662
·2021-04-17
赚了也不一定给基民，随便找个理由就搪塞过去了
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- 反卡:
  哈哈哈哈
  2021-04-17
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- joyo1662:
  所谓长期持有，就是让基民有耐心，多当几年韭菜，多给基金经纪人赚几年钱！
  2021-04-17
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- joyo1662:
  我说的对吧？
  2021-04-17
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·2021-04-17
基金就是把钱拿给别人，让人帮忙炒股，赔了也就罢了，赚了还要等着别人数完钱分给自己一点，怎么可能赚钱？
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- 反卡:
  说的好！！！
  2021-04-17
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- joyo1662:
  说得对！！！！
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- joyo1662:
  谢谢！！！！
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SamuelTse
·2021-04-17
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Leelol
·2021-04-17
资本市场大部分时间都是垃圾时间，行情往往很短暂
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琴兽
·2021-04-17
我就是持有顺景，收益97.62%的那些基民，与其说持有时间长，还不如说持有时机好吧，年前顺景收益一度达到130%，很牛轰轰的，年后开始就大幅下跌，截止解封收益接近翻倍收益，如果年后才参与的基民，亏惨了，但如果年前跑掉的，赚翻了，其实没有如果，也不绝对是时间长就好，时机很重要！
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股市图书馆
·2021-04-17
反正不是我的銭
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东方不败LT
·2021-04-17
持有基金的时间很重要
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- 大随杠把子:
  时间只是一个其中环节，关键是看他买什么，基金不就是先发个小基金，后面在发大的，大太小。
  2021-04-17
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有多项调查也显示出基金的持有时间与基民实际收益紧密相关。据景顺长城联合中国基金报、蚂蚁财富发布的《权益基金个人投资者调研白皮书》显示：单只基金持有少于3个月、少于半年时亏损比率超过50%,持有时间半年至一年的亏损比例约为40%。当持有时间上升到1-3年时，亏损比例大幅下降至20%出头。持有时间3-5年时，亏损比例降至20%以内，而盈利比例已经超过了80%。调查数据来源：《权益类基金个人投资者调研白皮书》，景顺长城、中国基金报、蚂蚁财富，数据仅供参考。从亏损幅度来看，持有时间越短，亏损的幅度也可能越大。持有时间少于3个月的受访者，有超过21%近一年亏损幅度高于30%。调查数据来源：《权益类基金个人投资者调研白皮书》，景顺长城、中国基金报、蚂蚁财富，数据仅供参考。今年一季度末，景顺长城基金及多家基金公司联合支付宝发布的《一季度基民报告》，显示出的数据更为触目惊心。在持有基金时长短于3个月的基民中，有超过7成是亏损的。但如果把周期拉长到一年以上，则有近9成基民是赚钱的。此外， 报告分析显示频繁买卖的基民较拿着不动的基民收益率平均少28%，追涨杀跌的基民较基金净值涨幅少赚40%。02宁要“模糊的正确”把握长期持基的逻辑起点所谓大智若愚，大巧若拙。根据上述调查，我们能看出，在投资中“持有不动”这个看似最笨的办法却常能获得好的收益。频繁操作者，反而可能弄巧成拙。有人将长期持有基金挣钱归结为“钝感力”，直译为迟钝的力量，大致可理解为不为波折所动，对“杂音”不要太过敏感，坚定地朝着既定方向前进。钝感和长持，看似玄学，实则暗含清晰的逻辑。最重要的是，基金的长期投资者把握住了一个核心逻辑，那便是中国权益投资的长期前景是光明的，坚定地走在这条路上，我们或许终将见到光。如著名经济学家凯恩斯的那句名言所说，“宁要模糊的正确，不要精确的错误”。投资中国的权益资产，在长期来看是正确的方向。但是，市场的短期波动充满了随机性，没有人能够精准预测短期走势，我们也难以精确判断什么股票是能够涨得最多的。所以我们说这可能是模糊的正确。把握大方向的前提下，选定优秀基金经理的基金产品，帮我们选取股市中优秀的标的，便有长期获得好收益的可能性，是一个“讨巧”的途径。不过，投资毕竟逆人性，很多投资者表示，道理大家都懂，但是做到的却不多。尤其在大幅波动的市场环境中，不少投资者常常抵御不了诱惑，总是频繁交易“拿不住”。于是，带有封闭期的产品应运而生，希望通过产品设计帮助投资者“管住手”。03牺牲一定流动性换取规避人性弱点的强制力刘彦春表示，设立封闭期的初衷是希望帮助投资者达成更好的投资效果，“过去我们管理的产品其实业绩还不错，但基民不一定赚钱，原因在于总有部分投资者在市场比较高的地方冲进来，又在市场比较低的地方恐慌离场，导致基金赚钱但基民不赚钱。我们设立集英成长基金，封闭期两年，就是希望能帮投资者把频繁交易的冲动过滤掉。”诚然，从一个投资者的角度来说，当我们看到两年封闭期的设定时，或多或少是会有些犹豫的。毕竟，我们都喜欢把“选择权”牢牢握在手上的感觉。当我们选择定开型基金，实际上是在封闭期内舍弃了公募权益基金流动性较好的优势，放弃了一部分的“选择权”。那么，我们牺牲一定短期流动性，所换来的东西是什么？所做的取舍，又是否值得或者说必要呢？从产品层面，我们所放弃的这部分流动性，换来的是所购买基金的自由度。简单来说，不开放申赎可保持基金规模稳定，让基金经理免受短期规模变动所造成的影响，有助于基金经理执行中长期策略，更好地捕捉企业成长、价值发现所贡献的投资收益。从自身角度，我们放弃部分“选择权”，换来了遏制自己频繁交易冲动的强制力。贪婪和恐惧都是人性，而资本市场则是人性弱点的放大器，近期市场的急跌更让我们认识到了长期投资的不易。芒格说，承认自己的无知是智慧的开端。我们选择定开基金，其实是大方承认了自己在克制频繁交易冲动方面的不足，选择通过产品合约的强制力，来帮助我们克服人性的弱点。诉诸外力看似无奈，实则是善于发现自身的不足，并通过工具来解决问题的聪明之举。04封闭期的设置暗含了“闲钱投资”理念霍华德·马克斯在《投资最重要的事》中说，在崩盘期间不顾价格地卖出，是世界上最悲惨的事情。投资需要长期的资金以及强大的心理素质，来保证自己能够在最艰难的时期坚持住不卖出。两年定开型基金从产品的设计上，便暗含了对于“闲钱投资”这一原则的引导。我们说了很多长期投资的逻辑、目的和意义，但是如果你用来长期投资的钱短期有急用，那一切都是枉然了。小景在此也提醒大家，如果想要投资于带有一定封闭期的基金产品，需要事先对自己的资金做出明确的规划，避免用短期可能要使用的资金，甚至是杠杆来资金进行投资。","kind":null,"is_publish_news":false,"is_publish_highlight":false,"is_publish_live":false,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"column":"","sentiment":"0","news_tag":"","news_rank":0,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":379695322,"gmtCreate":1618724147966,"gmtModify":1634291236831,"author":{"id":"3574242207425948","authorId":"3574242207425948","name":"2021_NS","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9064fe6900b6fd4f8c9c41bc4822f9d4","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"[微笑]&nbsp;","listText":"[微笑]&nbsp;","text":"[微笑]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/379695322","repostId":2127047680,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":379835692,"gmtCreate":1618714045116,"gmtModify":1634291308604,"author":{"id":"3574216091555844","authorId":"3574216091555844","name":"清华北大不如胆大","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e0dcb7ed2a91c252c651ab394754a1fc","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"所谓“二八效应”在基金的表现上也能够体现，即可能80%的涨幅只在约20%的时间内完成了。反过来说，错过了这20%的时间，可能你的收益就并不如意。","listText":"所谓“二八效应”在基金的表现上也能够体现，即可能80%的涨幅只在约20%的时间内完成了。反过来说，错过了这20%的时间，可能你的收益就并不如意。","text":"所谓“二八效应”在基金的表现上也能够体现，即可能80%的涨幅只在约20%的时间内完成了。反过来说，错过了这20%的时间，可能你的收益就并不如意。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/379835692","repostId":2127047680,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":379839547,"gmtCreate":1618713362889,"gmtModify":1618713362889,"author":{"id":"3558600224159473","authorId":"3558600224159473","name":"飞车手","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bf0759d20d5ebdba8ca5268455b124b8","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"666","listText":"666","text":"666","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/379839547","repostId":2127047680,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":379103743,"gmtCreate":1618701620282,"gmtModify":1618701620282,"author":{"id":"3569380346379459","authorId":"3569380346379459","name":"东山岛青","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1109703420a33cf8e43c6b8393dda43","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"实话实说","listText":"实话实说","text":"实话实说","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/379103743","repostId":2127047680,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":379938704,"gmtCreate":1618649903008,"gmtModify":1618649903008,"author":{"id":"3494818759156878","authorId":"3494818759156878","name":"925刀入场","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"我就说一个简单的，10万元基金两年才翻一番，10万元股票两年不止10万元","listText":"我就说一个简单的，10万元基金两年才翻一番，10万元股票两年不止10万元","text":"我就说一个简单的，10万元基金两年才翻一番，10万元股票两年不止10万元","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/379938704","repostId":2127047680,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false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