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2020-07-24

能介绍几个公众号不？

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-07-14

$百度(BIDU)$怎么连谷歌的零头也没有了

2020-07-11

我就是个标准的日间交易者

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-07-09

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$阿里啥时候发财报啊？

2018-07-27

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$ 我就想知道为什么亚马逊要比阿里巴巴市值高这么多，？

2018-01-24

美豹要求所有用户平仓提现了

啥情况？老虎不会也来这手吧？

美豹要求所有用户平仓提现了

2018-01-24

美豹要求所有用户平仓提现了老虎不会也来这手吧？@Tony特别帅

2018-01-16

$迅雷(XNET)$ 这下没更坏的消息了吧

2017-11-27

好吧

$迅雷(XNET)$算你狠

2017-11-25

$趣店(QD)$有啥说法吗？跌成这样？

2017-10-11

$百度(BIDU)$百度是不是网站当掉了怎么老打不开？

2017-09-14

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$马老板套现40亿不知道股票会跌几个点

2017-09-01

$京东(JD)$东哥股民喊你回来上班啦

2017-09-01

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$七个龙珠

2017-08-31

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$神龙

2017-08-30

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$龙珠

2017-08-29

$京东(JD)$召唤龙珠

2017-08-28

$阿里巴巴(BABA)

2017-08-28

$京东(JD)$抄到地板上了

2017-08-18

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$在170跑了，现在还没上车感觉自己身手灵活

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<li><p>日间交易者倾向于卖掉上涨的股票，而不肯放弃下跌的。</p></li>\n <li><p>中国台湾2002年4月引入乐透彩票后，当地日间交易量骤降大约25%。</p></li>\n <li><p>日间交易者再度购入自己曾经赚钱的股票的概率要远大于自己曾经赔钱的股票。</p></li>\n <li><p>日间交易者不喜欢学习交易技巧。</p></li>\n <li><p>在扣除各种交易成本后，日间交易者的亏损还会进一步增大。</p></li>\n <li><p>日间交易者往往倾向于增持自己所在行业的股票。</p></li>\n</ol>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/880368296fea372393d93e4d4e3f551b\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"311\"></p>\n<p>显然，关于日间交易散户的现实确实不怎么美好。那么，为何大多数日间交易散户都只能是悲剧收场呢？理财入门网站THE ROBUST TRADER列出了十大原因。</p>\n<p><b>1. 没有策略和规划</b></p>\n<p>要做交易，就必须有一个长期愿景，以及达成愿景的可靠规划，在不同的策略之间不停切换，乃至于全凭心血来潮做决定，注定是不会有好果子吃的。</p>\n<p><b>2.&nbsp;没有自己的优势</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/08e87fecacfafb655d4a5e74cf883ae1\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"369\"></p>\n<p>这是日间交易者遭遇失败的最重大原因之一。要在市场上获得成功，必须保证自己至少在某方面拥有一定优势，而大多数散户都做不到这一点。</p>\n<p><b>3. 全无纪律</b></p>\n<p>没有优势就已经很糟糕了，再没有坚持既定策略的纪律，后果就只能是雪上加霜。要克制住自己的各种情绪，自己的“直觉”对市场的判断，一切以冰冷的策略为根据，其实难度极高。</p>\n<p><b>4. 下注过大</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8bd6ecceb3d627359ca0c15742ae9b1a\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"311\"></p>\n<p>哪怕投资者有了策略、优势和纪律，也没有谁能够保证每次交易都会成功，而交易生涯的可持续性很大程度上就要看每次交易的头寸规模。如果每次投入的资金都相当于全部本钱的2%，则连续失败十次也就损失20%，而如果每次都投入10%，连续失败十次就意味着血本无归。不要只想着买得多赚得多，也要想想赔了怎么办。</p>\n<p><b>5. 盲目自大</b></p>\n<p>不管是在生活还是在交易当中，人们总是可能会将某种其实完全是运气造成的结果当成自己能力的体现，由此越走越远。尤其是那些依靠“直觉”的散户，在根本没有什么真正能力的情况下，靠着概率也可能有一些成功的交易，而因此变得胆子越来越大，直到万劫不复。</p>\n<p><b>6. 没有应变预案</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d608172233396f8073700dd988680bb3\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"311\"></p>\n<p>许多新玩家都相信，自己只要找到一种对的策略，就可以一直赚钱下去了，然而事实就是，没有任何一种策略是会永远有效的。市场总是会变的，当既有的策略已经与市场脱节，你该用什么新策略来代替？你又如何判断更换策略的时间节点？</p>\n<p><b>7. 不做交易记录</b></p>\n<p>在日间交易所必需的功课当中，做交易记录是非常重要的一项。每一笔交易的时间、对象、金额、信号、预设入场点或退场点、止损手段、总体盈亏等都应该记录下来，这样可以帮助你总结和成长。</p>\n<p><b>8. 预期不切实际</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e399779ca62ba58654517d36ea80571c\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"291\"></p>\n<p>今日的网络世界充斥着各种似是而非的内容，经常会有一些所谓专家宣称，达成每年三位数，乃至四位数的回报都是轻而易举的事情，让人很容易受到蛊惑。然而实际上，这样的回报在短期内也只有少数人能够达到，而长期来看，根本就是子虚乌有。</p>\n<p><b>9. 处理不好心理压力</b></p>\n<p>许多人都从一开始就将日间交易看成了一个轻松赚钱的游戏，然而现实其实要冷酷得多，一路上，交易者会遇到各种各样的心理压力，以及各种各样的冲动。比如，日间交易散户经常会在心理因素驱使下犯下这些错误：不肯按照策略发出的信号做交易；忍不住去做策略没有发出信号的交易；死活不肯割肉，幻想再过一些时间，下跌的股票就能涨回来；过早卖掉上涨的股票以求心安。</p>\n<p><b>10. 不肯下苦功夫</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f0f20809ac2781d912106b81fdcd790d\" tg-width=\"554\" tg-height=\"311\"></p>\n<p>世界上从来就没有轻松赚钱的方法，何况是在股市当中和那么多其他人，那么多其他资金去博弈。日间交易者必须找到和不断验证可靠的策略，不断紧盯策略发出的信号，不断关注市场的变化……如果不能每天都在电脑前投入几个小时，拿这至少当一份兼职工作来干，就不要走这条路。</p>\n<p>遗憾的是，类似这样的建议，在理财顾问和金融教育专家那里早已经是老生常谈，但是日间交易散户群体依然前仆后继，从来不曾从人们视野当中消失。尤其是当下疫情造就的宅家新世代，哪怕麦基尔（Burton Malkiel）、马克斯（Howard Marks）、库珀曼（Leon Cooperman）等等名震业界的大佬一再发出警告，他们也只是一笑置之——毕竟他们的最大特点之一，就是蔑视一切既有权威，连巴菲特（Warren Buffett）都要踩在脚下的。</p>\n<p>等待着他们的命运，会和前辈们不同吗？</p>","source":"txmg","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" 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Dobatse）的美股散户投资者对《纽约时报》撰稿人这样总结了自己的“多么痛的领悟”。\n\n\n多巴茨所指的“他们”，当然就是当下高度活跃的美股新日间交易散户的聚集地Robinhood平台。他是被这一app各种花狸狐哨的设定吸引过去的，这些手段使得复杂的投资看上去更像是简单的游戏，魅惑了很多用户。\n他是2017年“入坑”的，最初用信用卡预付了1.5万美元开户，而在不断遭遇亏损之后，又不得不借了合计3万美元的房屋净值贷款。\n今年，他似乎时来运转了，几个月里，账户净资产一度膨胀到了100万美元。然后，一切就分崩离析了，接受采访时，他账户里只剩下了6950美元。\n他的妻子介绍说，多巴茨“做交易时，甚至连饭都不想吃”，晚上“他还会做噩梦”。\n这篇报道再度将Robinhood和疫情期间诞生的一代宅家散户推到了聚光灯下。今年早些时候，一位二十岁的大学生卡恩斯（Alex Kearns）自杀身亡，就已经引发了关于这一群体和他们行为的广泛讨论。当时，他错误地以为自己的Robinhood账户已经欠债超过70万美元，于是留下了“一个二十岁、没有任何收入的人怎么会被系统分配了近百万美元的杠杆？”的遗书，与世长辞。\n\n如果只是去看这些散户的网上社区，比如Reddit的WallStreetBets群组或者其他论坛，人们很容易就会以为他们都是超级成功者，但正如前面两篇报道所显示的，事实其实远没有那么美妙。\n理财咨询公司Cerulli专门追踪券商数据的专家史密斯（Scott Smith）就坦言，也许现在由于美股近几个月的戏剧性大涨行情，这些散户当中颇有不少人赚了些钱，但是长期来看，日间交易群体赚钱其实是例外，赔钱才是必然。他在《纽约时报》报道中对Robinhood的评价是：“他们是在怂恿自行车都搞不掂的人去骑摩托车。长期而言，这种行为其实就等于试图从赌场手中抢钱。”\n赌客想要击败赌场，当然几乎是不可能，但是日间交易者要赚钱，真的就这么难么？事实胜于雄辩，投资社区网站Tradeciety曾经发布过一组有趣的统计结果。\n\n\n 80%的日间交易者都坚持不了两年。\n平均而言，全部散户的表现每年落后大盘1.5%，而日间交易散户落后6.5%。\n平均而言，全部日间交易者当中每年只有平均1.6%能够赚钱。\n越是没钱的散户，投入日间交易的资金相对于他们的总收入的占比越高。其中，那些穷困的、年轻的、居住于城市的少数族裔尤其如此。\n日间交易者倾向于卖掉上涨的股票，而不肯放弃下跌的。\n中国台湾2002年4月引入乐透彩票后，当地日间交易量骤降大约25%。\n日间交易者再度购入自己曾经赚钱的股票的概率要远大于自己曾经赔钱的股票。\n日间交易者不喜欢学习交易技巧。\n在扣除各种交易成本后，日间交易者的亏损还会进一步增大。\n日间交易者往往倾向于增持自己所在行业的股票。\n\n\n显然，关于日间交易散户的现实确实不怎么美好。那么，为何大多数日间交易散户都只能是悲剧收场呢？理财入门网站THE ROBUST TRADER列出了十大原因。\n1. 没有策略和规划\n要做交易，就必须有一个长期愿景，以及达成愿景的可靠规划，在不同的策略之间不停切换，乃至于全凭心血来潮做决定，注定是不会有好果子吃的。\n2. 没有自己的优势\n\n这是日间交易者遭遇失败的最重大原因之一。要在市场上获得成功，必须保证自己至少在某方面拥有一定优势，而大多数散户都做不到这一点。\n3. 全无纪律\n没有优势就已经很糟糕了，再没有坚持既定策略的纪律，后果就只能是雪上加霜。要克制住自己的各种情绪，自己的“直觉”对市场的判断，一切以冰冷的策略为根据，其实难度极高。\n4. 下注过大\n\n哪怕投资者有了策略、优势和纪律，也没有谁能够保证每次交易都会成功，而交易生涯的可持续性很大程度上就要看每次交易的头寸规模。如果每次投入的资金都相当于全部本钱的2%，则连续失败十次也就损失20%，而如果每次都投入10%，连续失败十次就意味着血本无归。不要只想着买得多赚得多，也要想想赔了怎么办。\n5. 盲目自大\n不管是在生活还是在交易当中，人们总是可能会将某种其实完全是运气造成的结果当成自己能力的体现，由此越走越远。尤其是那些依靠“直觉”的散户，在根本没有什么真正能力的情况下，靠着概率也可能有一些成功的交易，而因此变得胆子越来越大，直到万劫不复。\n6. 没有应变预案\n\n许多新玩家都相信，自己只要找到一种对的策略，就可以一直赚钱下去了，然而事实就是，没有任何一种策略是会永远有效的。市场总是会变的，当既有的策略已经与市场脱节，你该用什么新策略来代替？你又如何判断更换策略的时间节点？\n7. 不做交易记录\n在日间交易所必需的功课当中，做交易记录是非常重要的一项。每一笔交易的时间、对象、金额、信号、预设入场点或退场点、止损手段、总体盈亏等都应该记录下来，这样可以帮助你总结和成长。\n8. 预期不切实际\n\n今日的网络世界充斥着各种似是而非的内容，经常会有一些所谓专家宣称，达成每年三位数，乃至四位数的回报都是轻而易举的事情，让人很容易受到蛊惑。然而实际上，这样的回报在短期内也只有少数人能够达到，而长期来看，根本就是子虚乌有。\n9. 处理不好心理压力\n许多人都从一开始就将日间交易看成了一个轻松赚钱的游戏，然而现实其实要冷酷得多，一路上，交易者会遇到各种各样的心理压力，以及各种各样的冲动。比如，日间交易散户经常会在心理因素驱使下犯下这些错误：不肯按照策略发出的信号做交易；忍不住去做策略没有发出信号的交易；死活不肯割肉，幻想再过一些时间，下跌的股票就能涨回来；过早卖掉上涨的股票以求心安。\n10. 不肯下苦功夫\n\n世界上从来就没有轻松赚钱的方法，何况是在股市当中和那么多其他人，那么多其他资金去博弈。日间交易者必须找到和不断验证可靠的策略，不断紧盯策略发出的信号，不断关注市场的变化……如果不能每天都在电脑前投入几个小时，拿这至少当一份兼职工作来干，就不要走这条路。\n遗憾的是，类似这样的建议，在理财顾问和金融教育专家那里早已经是老生常谈，但是日间交易散户群体依然前仆后继，从来不曾从人们视野当中消失。尤其是当下疫情造就的宅家新世代，哪怕麦基尔（Burton Malkiel）、马克斯（Howard Marks）、库珀曼（Leon Cooperman）等等名震业界的大佬一再发出警告，他们也只是一笑置之——毕竟他们的最大特点之一，就是蔑视一切既有权威，连巴菲特（Warren Buffett）都要踩在脚下的。\n等待着他们的命运，会和前辈们不同吗？","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1565,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}